Many people complain of the lack of funding.Why don't they
complain of mismanagement?
I just want to point out that this is the second time that the headline
'Air Quality' doesn't match the survey question
'Pollution'. Where is the specific 'air'/ 'natural gas
permits/ expansion marketing' element? It says 'pollution'. That
covers a lot more than just air.
Glad to see "Protecting States Rights" was one of the top 3 priorities,
as it should be! This would suggest high and on-going support for Utah's
Great article. I hope our future leaders take note. This list mirrors my
As a matter of curiosity, I wonder where moving the prison ranks. If the
planners are queried, it seems that is the only issue and no one save the
developers is paying attention. it is snowballling right along. Let your Leg
Rep know to stop it.
These sound very much like "Blue State" responses. Utah citizens from
both parties can find much to work together on if these are truly the priorities
of the citizens.
Dont ask West Jordan if they want the education to improve they voted down the
bond. Out of all the school district that needed the bond the most the people
AKA parents said no.
The problem with education is far more complicated than most Utahns can
understand.It has nothing to do with current funding or more money, it has
to do with economic growth which attracts large numbers of illegal immigrants as
well as other immigrant and minorities who do not value or place a high emphasis
on academic achievement.You take that and couple it with the federal
government intervention in education and unions who protect the jobs of lazy
unworthy teachers and BINGO you have a failing education system.Being
Hispanic myself and having grown up in LA, I saw the school system there slowly
decay to kids graduating from high school who could barely read.
The Legislature will review this list, and then ignore it.
Education funding is the last thing in the world Utahns should be worried about.
Education already receives about 2/3 of Utah's annual budget. The problem
is that public education is managed just as wastefully, and filled with just as
much bureaucracy and mediocrity as any other public service. Fix that and you
will have fixed education.
@evansrichdmBeing from West Jordan, and having voted against the
bond, I can emphatically state that it was not rejected because West Jordan
doesn't value education, but because the way the bond was structured was
deeply flawed. I for one don't mind spending more on education, I do have
issues with just giving more money to the school district without a solid plan
for how that money will be spent and knowing that the money will be spent in the
most effective way.West Jordan citizens didn't reject the bond.
West Jordan citizens rejected the spending plan that came attached to the bond.
Essentially, this was an unexpected pop quiz on current events to see what
people had been reading in the media, for the most part. The telling point is
that protecting states rights ranked number 3 despite being seldom mentioned in
the media.It would be interesting to see the actual survey questions
and methodology.Were they given a list of topics, or just asked out
of the blue by some stranger on the phone what the legislative priorities should
be?If not given a specific list, how were the actual responses
translated into the priorities stated by the pollsters? Lot so of room for
mischief.Remember Dan Jones is essentially a Democrat pollster, and
pollsters can skew results to get any result a client wants by the wording of a
question, suggested responses, order of asking questions, and how the results
are aggregated. Not to mention how the respondents are selected, and when they
are contacted.Bottom line- don't take this too seriously.
If you want to fix air quality, buy a different kind of car or take the
train.If you want to fix your child's education, help educate them
yourself. Family's have far more power than legislators.I agree
that these issues are important. But writing new laws doesn't change the
qualify of life. Living well does. Our social problems should come first, not
the symptoms of them.It used to be a "Family car", or a
"house phone" now everyone needs their own mobility and independence.
Grades aren't effected by a lack of school computers or teacher salaries.
Grades are effected mostly by the choices parents make. Pollution is a choice we
make too, it's made at home.I'm as guilty as others. I
just refuse to believe that laws will change my behavior. They never have. The
only person in control has always been and always will be myself.
I would like to know if the respondents were given a list to choose from or had
to pull their choices from their own thinking. I would wager they were given a
The photo should have been taken while driving out of Parley's Canyon on a
bad smoggy day...which is almost every day. Then there would be NO picture of
the Salt Lake Valley - only SMOG - which would tell the TRUE picture. It is like
smoking a pack cigarette's per day! People who do not smoke don't
want to smoke any at all. Elderly people, people with asthma and/or small
children suffer the most! The hospital emergency rooms have been full -
especially every winter. I am finding the quality of air and is diminishing
every year because of the smog which is trapped in this valley. With all
of the modern technology I would think this problem could be solved, and fast! I
realize there is a much more all of us could do, like car-pooling, taking mass
transit or riding bikes or motorcycles. Give big tax credits for those who do
these things. What good is educating our children if they cannot breathe, and
are groggy from smoking a pack of cigarette's per day? Maybe big
extraction fans - which clean the air too - could be strategically placed in the
What good is pouring more money into education if the smog is so bad that it is
like our children are smoking a pack of cigarette's per day? How can they
concentrate if they are feeling weak or sick? The children and the elderly are
affected the most and the emergency rooms are full. Are there tax credits for
those who car-pool, take public transit, ride their bikes or motorcycles to
work? We all need to concentrate on doing our part. Just think about how many
more cars are on the roads every semester when the teenagers graduate from their
driver's education class and the problem is only going to get worse. The
smog problem needs to be tackled NOW. Just drive out of Parley's Canyon on
almost any day and you will see the REAL picture of what the smog looks like in
the valley. It is outrageous!
#14 seems to conflict with the rest.
How can the people of Utah have most of the things on the list when they also
want lower taxes? In education more efficiency could help a lot. There
isn't just a lot of fat, it's blubber.
To improve air quality, it will be necessary to ban wood burning. Residential
burning is the largest single source of black carbon soot or smog--more than
from vehicle exhaust and from all industrial sources combined. Asthma is the
number one reason for school absenteeism and wood smoke is as much of a trigger
for asthma attacks as tobacco smoke. When cleaner burning alternatives are
readily available, this would make sense as the simplest, least expensive
solution to improving air pollution immediately. While smoking is banned in many
outdoor parks in many states, there are no laws to protect people from breathing
wood smoke, even on our own properties. Wood burning restaurants, too, should be
regulated because they too are part of the problem of caustic air that is
harmful to breathe in public spaces such as city streets and sidewalks.
If keeping amendment 3 in place is the reason why protecting states' rights
ranked so high in the poll, the citizens of Utah couldn't be focused on a
less important issue as it relates to the well-being of most people in the
state. If amendment 3 is overturned, the impact on Utah in a real
sense will be near Z-E-R-O, except for those who will be able to get married.
For them, and for all Utahns who believe in the the equality that is guaranteed
by 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it will be very good news indeed.
Surveys of this sort explain why America's founders gave us a Republic -- a
system of law rather than consensus. They also guaranteed every state a
republican form of government not to be over-ridden by the hottest issue of the
hour -- and not even by majority opinion unless the constitution were amended
accordingly. Presumably the top two items (education and smog) were among
the 20 issues respondents had to choose from. It is doubtful that the survey
asked people if they wanted higher taxes and more severe regulations. That
question might have reversed the outcome of this very loaded-looking survey.
Would there be less blubber in education if teachers had 50 students in their
classrooms vs. 40 to 45?
@Howard,Classroom overcrowding wouldn't be such a problem (and
it is a serious one) if the money the schools have was spent wisely. Should the
money go to continue to pay incompetent teachers year after year (blubber) or to
to hire competent ones? Should the money go to pay for frivolous high school
football programs (blubber) or to promote those activities that really do help
the student (debate, drama, music,etc.) and are less expensive?
Two related realities are over looked regarding the air quality issue. The
first is the geography in which we live. Salt Lake Valley, along with other
parts of Utah, is in a bowl surrounded by mountains. The geography of the Salt
Lake Valley makes it easy for Mother Nature to create an ideal place for poor
air quality. That leads to the second reality, which is weather.
It goes like this, a high pressure holds cold air from a previous low pressure
inside the geography of the valley. The high pressure stays there until a
storm, with its wind, comes in and moves the high pressure, cleaning our air.
We are in a drought, we are not getting the number of storms we would in a
normal winter, and so we have more air quality issues. When our winters return
to normal, and they will, the air quality issue will not be as big as it is
today.The concept that man can clean up our air is noble, but
idealistic. The reality is that no matter how or what we try or what
regulations are written, Mother Nature wins. Unfortunately, those that scream
the loudest discount reality
@Meckofahess equates "protecting states' rights" with
"support" for Utah's anti-gay amendment. While that
shift to euphemistic language may work as political propaganda, I'm not
sure all who value states' rights see "protecting states'
rights" as a legitimate justification for legally treating gay couples
differently from straight ones-- as if preventing gay people from legal marriage
is "merely" a question of states' rights and not a question of
anti-gay animus motivated by religious belief.At any rate, marriage
equality in Utah, now largely federal matter, will positively impact other Utah
priorities:6. Creating a business-friendly economy (0.30)7.
Expanding the availability of health care coverage (0.25)13. Providing
nondiscrimination laws for gays and lesbians (0.20)
I've seen high school football help plenty (literally thousands) of young
men. I've seen drama help thousands of people as well. I don't
consider either blubber. And yes, it would be great to get rid of incompetent
teachers but new teachers would have to hired. It seems like we are in shortage
of teachers. Perhaps if salaries were raised and benefits restored, more
qualified persons would apply for jobs. Yes, we have administrators, too many
of them perhaps and we could agree there, but the salaries of Utah's
administrators is actually much less than other states. Facilities in many of
our schools are decaying. Again, I see the need for more resources. I want our
children to be educated in the safe buildings, having access to technology, and
not be in classrooms of 40 students where teachers would find it impossible to
meet the individual needs of all their students. I guess we have a different
definition of blubber JSB but I'm sure my version is better for our
buck murdoch,Wood is also the single way of getting warmth into
homes for a lot of people, especially in the country. We can't legislate
our way into fixing problems by requiring clean practices. We need to make it
desirable to change. Instead of legislating coercion or force, we should do it
the honest way. I wouldn't want to live on a perfectly clean planet if
everyone was perfectly corrupt.The difference between progress and
tyranny is one is volunteered and the other is forced.
Worf, What mismanagement? This state has always run in the Black. You want to
see mismanagement of its finest? Go to California. Not only have they been
bankrupt they voted to take a 15% cut in pay for all state workers while they
gave themselves a raise. When the US Borax mine aka Rio Tinto Minerals refused
to let the 650 miners and staff to come to work Arnold was at a $500 a plate
banquet. Utah Gov. When they tried the same thing said "not in my state"
and stopped them. Arnold just enjoyed his dinner and did NOTHING so they added
to the already bankrupt state more ppl on unemployment. Back in the 70"s
they got rid of Jerry Brown, what did they do in the last election? Bring him
back. So Mismanagement? I will take Utah over California ANY Day.