There is no excuse for cock fighting. There is a law against murder and
therefore it is driven underground, but it is justice that the law exist and
people are punished.
A felony? Really?@cjb Plants are alive. We "murder" them
to eat. Animals are alive. We "murder" them to eat. I don't
think these roosters are murdered.I agree that cockfighting is
disgusting, but it doesn't warrant a felony. We have too many inmates
costing 40K per year to house, clothe, feed and heal. Let's keep this in
perspective. This is just a legislator trying to justify his
elected job by creating more laws.
sure, let's make it a felony; that way in case of a raid at night if
anybody runs, it gives the police the right to shoot no matter what age the
individual is. a chicken's life surely is worth more than a human life.
what kind of organization has convinced the public and the state officials that
a chickens life is worth more than a human life. money can be real convincing,
look at oklahoma, animal activist money turned a 100 million dollar a year
industry into a crime. let's fill the jails with people over a chicken, let
the other bigger crimes go free. if cockfighting were legalized and state
controlled it would make every piece of empty property worth double the value
and bring hundreds of jobs to the state. talking about gambling and drugs ,
illegal bookmaking is huge in our college games and even high school games. and
there are more drugs at pro sports than any cockfighting event. we have to
think about our oath of office to protect our rights and not be bought out by
Clueless city-slickers. Our chief rooster, like the others before
him, puts himself between "his" flock/girls/chicks and any strange
critter. He starts with a warning call that sends the flock into hiding, and a
display that, if ignored will turn into a vicious attack on the threatening
beast. It sometimes winds up being a personal sacrifice. The
younger roosters will occasionally challenge him -- sometimes fatally (Oh my!
Cock fight! Horrors!).I do personally bet on the outcome --- always a good
rooster for the flock. I do not give them artificial spurs. I guess $ and
hardware might be a significant difference in the issue under discussion
here. Chickens do fight (especially good roosters). The phrase
"pecking order" comes from that.
Re: "There is no excuse for cock fighting."Of course there
isn't. But there's also no excuse for meaningless, harmful liberal
symbolism in lawmaking, either.It's interesting that those
calling for hypercriminalization of this abomination towards roosters are the
same people calling for decriminalization of marijuana, along with the misery
that will entail, as well as the "hospitality" industry's enabling
and encouraging of the carnage caused by DUI.Why do they love
roosters, but hate innocent people?
When we turn people into "Felons" we create a huge burden on society.
Felons have a hard time getting jobs, finding apartments, etc.. People made
homeless and jobless by a "felon" label, turn to more serious crimes to
survive. The label of "Felon" should be reserved for people who are
notoriously dangerous, otherwise, the label becomes meaningless. I'd
rather see these cock-fighters get hit with serious fines and have to do a LOT
of community service, rather than labeling them as felons.
Yes it should be illegal, but certainly not a felony! I'm sure there
would be less occurances if it was made into a felony, but if you have that
attitude then maybe we should make everything a felony. That would be a very
bad idea, now wouldn't it?
Lets not make more things felony's. What is a felony nowadays? Were you
cockfighting? Selling drugs? Smuggling snakes? Abusing Children? Give me a
Interesting rationalizations for cockfighting:"We don't
have room in the prisons" -- Completely discounts law's deterrent
effect (when enforced). "...drive it so far underground..."
-- That is a rationalization. It is like saying we should give the would-be
shoplifter what he wants so that he isn't tempted to shoplift."...then maybe we should make everything a felony" -- Discounts the
distinct cruelty and depravity of cockfighting."let's make
it a felony... if anybody runs, it gives the police the right to shoot..."
-- Ridiculously false logical leap. No one would be shot in the back running
away from a cockfight."...if cockfighting were legalized ... it
would make ... empty property worth double the value and bring hundreds of jobs
to the state" -- Implies that money and profit is the most important
desideratum. (Greed) "People made homeless and jobless by a
'felon' label, turn to more serious crimes..." Again, let that act
as a deterrent. Cockfighting is not part of American culture and we
don't want it here -- even if makes some businessmen's employees
Have we not bigger fish to fry? Felons? Seriously? The average cost per day for
incarceration, I would venture to say, over a 100 dollars. I say we concentrate
on the things that kill people, not chickens. For example, texting behind the
wheel, drug and alcohol abuse, murder, and the list goes on. I would like to
share that law officers are strapped with enough burden and need not be private
enforcers for animal rights groups. Yes, they must respond to these reports and
surrender valuable time. I have seen, in animal rights videos, activists wearing
mock ATF uniforms and assisting in raids on cockfighting rings. This now
becoming an illegal seizure, and from there on they follow it into the
courtroom, costing taxpayers thousands of dollars. Oh and these seized birds are
put to death. OK. Think about it.
Fowl fighting is not defensible, but neither is mixed martial arts (MMA). Fowl
fighting should be punishable under some law and it should not be a felony. Sen.
Davis - propose some other bill to assuage you conscience and demonstrate your
humanity, but not this one.
Felony laws should be where and human hurts another human, not over a chicken.