Query whether UofU has had more conference wins or O-coordinators since joining
the PAC?That said, for the U it hasn't been the O-coordinator
so much as the poor choice in Wynn for two years and bad luck at qb thereafter
that have kept the U below PAC12 mediocrity so far. BYU has yet to
build a top 70 offensive line for four straight years. Whilst wasting two
oftheir best defensive squads since 1997.I'd rather be in
Utah's position.As an Aggie fan, I'm happy to be neither.
All Utah had to offer was $$$. I guess money can't buy everything....
Utah will replace Johnson with an Oregon coach. Utah is the best team in the
pac. They will remain the best for the foreseeable future and every other coach
in the pAC wants to be part of Utah's dynasty.
This is what should have happened when coach Whittingham started hiring all
graduate assistant to run his program. Coaches with no experience can't be
mature enough to coach in the PAC 12. I do wish Johnson well, however, it just
wasn't right for a grad assistant to be put in the position he was assigned
to. He was destined to fail. Hopefully he and Dan Mullen can produce on a
@christinaFirst of all chrissy, roderick did not turn BYU down
twice. In fact the one and only time they offered him a job he actually accepted
it and then renigged on it. The first time he took a job and then went back on
his word was at washington.As for your claim about coach Holliday,
you do realize he just helped sign his godson to an LOI to play at BYU
don't you? Why would he do that and then leave a couple of days later? If
that was his plan why wouldn't he steer him to utah who was also in need of
WR's? If you are going to try to be provocative you should at least do a
little bit of homework and come up with something semi believable. lol
Nobody should be too surprised at the way this happened. This is KW's mo
since taking over as head coach. I don't think he's fired anybody.
Be demotes them or moves them around to other positions and let's them
realize it's time to move on themselves. This may be one reason the
offense is struggling so much. The head coach needs to be more decisive when
things aren't going well. He had an opportunity to keep Dave Schramm back
when Roderick left for Washington, but instead brought Roderick back as co-OC
with Schramm and after one season Schramm left. Now we see Schramm excelling at
Fresno State and you have to wonder what could have been had KW made the
decision and kept him as the only OC.
I was concerned about hiring BJ as the OC when KW did it and I voiced that
concern here on the Dnews boards. As I look back at his coaching record, in
spite of the injuries to the QB's, the Utes haven't had good QB play
his entire tenure. There supposedly has been the talent level, but none of them
have really performed consistently up to expectations. Sometimes being smart
and knowing the X's and O's isn't all it takes to be a good
coach. Brian was a great player, but maybe he's lacking in some of the
essential coaching skills like motivating others or helping a QB rebuild his
confidence after he throws a few interceptions. I wish BJ all the best, but I
think some new energy is needed at the QB coaching position and I hope the new
OC will bring somebody in to do that.
Not the beginning but the end Brian was way over his head as an OC and got
demoted. Now he can take his so called skills to Miss St. Utah needed new blood
on the coaching staff and I am glad that Whit has realized that. Now if we can
get rid of Arod so that our WR corp can develop and get separation from the DBs
in the PAC12 it will complete a new offensive staffNow Dave bring in
a great hire for QB coach.
@stringer bellI wasn't aware that 2-7 records put a team at the
top of the pac12.
Oh and by the way 54iq, the doom and gloom for utah's program is occuring
regardless of what johnson does. They're a losing program at the bottom of
their conference no matter if johnson stays or goes. It is completely irrelevant
what he does. They're bad.
@54iqWhen did I predict "doom and gloom" because johnson is
leaving? To the contrary he was a bad hire to begin with. None of utah's
qb's ever improved with him as their coach. utah's offense was abysmal
with him as o.c. Frankly the guy hasn't proven to be capable of doing
anything to improve a team as a coach. utah can't help but get a better
coach than johnson showed himself to be even if they hire chis b, at minimum it
couldn't be any worse could it? When your offense as ranked below 100 every
year this guy had his hands on it I'm not sure why anyone would be thinking
it is "doom and gloom" that he is leaving? Please explain that one to
me? Now for johnson's standpoint this is not just an
understandable move it is the smartest thing he has ever done. get out before
the entire thing comes crashing down this December. get out while he still has a
shred of credibility. Just get as far away from that sinking ship as he can.
Smartest move he ever made.
The SEC is better than the Pac 12.Is that too hard for TDS fans to
understand?Regardless, I'm glad he is going. He wasn't up
to the job here, and he wasn't appreciated here for what he DID do well.Plus, Whittingham (hopefully) will be long gone by this time next year
and that could have left him without a job. Watch for the Wyoming QB coach to be
his replacement.I'd bet we haven't heard the last of Brian
Johnson. The kid has a solid football IQ and sufficient ambition to go far in
coaching. He just needs a competent coach to allow him to develop and improve.
Mullen may be the one.I wouldn't be at all surprised to see
Johnson back as a successful OC in a few years time somewhere else... and making
Utah look really bad in the process.
@Uteology,No, it's a given that no one is calling anyone from
BYU's staff. At least Wyoming coaches are in demand, even by BYU alum.You're wrong. Its looking like Guy Holliday(byu coach) is coming
over to Utah. My sources are telling me its looking close to being a done
deal@SammyIf Utah is a sinking ship what does that say
about a program that loses a coach to said "sinking ship"Is
byu already sunk if coaches are continually picking Utah offers over
byu(Whittingham, Roderick twice, Guy Holliday)?Go UTES
Thank you, Coach, for your contributions to Utah football. Good luck in the
Thanks to BJ for the best season of football in the history of our state, and
playing a big part in Utah's move up to the PAC 12.Congrats on
the new job and best of luck in what will likely be a bright future in coaching.
Nothing has began just Brian knowing that he will not be moved to OC at Utah at
this time is all it means. I am glad that Brian is moving on the
Utes need new blood on the coaching staff and Brian can learn from Dan Mullen
and be in the SEC. It should advance is career. At least Whit is
known for firing his coaches then bringing them back a year later to the same
position now that is talking musical chairs.
Good luck Brian.And welcome ex byu coach guy Holliday!Tell us byu fans does it hurt to be told no thanks by alum whittingham an alum
Roderick(twice)? Your alum prefer Utah to their own school!And now we take guy Holliday. Yes, I love our bcs
At least Utah hires desirable coaches.BYU fans can laugh all they
want, but Whit hires guys that have had good experience or develop into good
coaches. Whit will develop someone else now.Jay Hill, now head
coach at Weber StateNorm Chown, now head coach at HawaiiGary
Andersen, now head coach at Wisconsin(plus many others that have gained
good experience at Utah and moved up at a different school).Now
let's see about Bronco, his assistants:Jaime Hill, he was fired no
one else wanted him.Brandon Doman, same thingRobert Anae, left BYU,
Doman was worse BYU couldn't find anyone better, so they brought him
back.Bronco can rarely develop NFL players and he cannot develop
assistants to further their careers.
Re: DownunderEven with all of the unplanned QB injuries at the U
for the past several years, when has Utah ever been in the basement of the PAC
12? One of the uninformed that Bronco referenced?
Re: Duckhunter "And so it begins"No- and so it ends.
Great kid but was put in a position where he was in over his head. Wish him
CougsndawgsWest Point , UTPocyUte:"it'll be
interesting to see who he brings in to replace Brian"I thought
that was a given...what's the QB coach's name at Wyoming? I'm
sure we'll be getting that announcement soon.-------------No, it's a given that no one is calling anyone from BYU's
staff. At least Wyoming coaches are in demand, even by BYU alum.
Congrats Brian, what a huge upgrade, must be a great feeling going to a
prestigious conference, good luck!
If you compress what has happened in the last two years the conclusion is this
is simply poor management. Repeatedly demoting someone is what poor managers do
when they don't have the leadership, management, human relations and
strength to just simply say to someone they don't think the person is
getting the job done and firing them. The approach by Whittingham and Chris
Hill is demeaning and cowardly.
Jo co Ute.... Lots its appeal. See below4. the power or ability to
attract, interest, amuse, or stimulate the mind or emotions. It is obvious
Johnson has no interest being demoted to a position coach (co-offensive
coordinator to make it sound better). At this point Ericson, Christenson, and
Johnson all hold the title of Co- offensive coordinator. Hence the joke of
Co-co-co offensive coordinator. Obviously with different roles but the same
A job opening for Max Hall.
It is laughable how the same people that hammered Johnson for years now claim,
due to his departure, doom and gloom for the program that he leaves (see
"I just don't understand...why in the world would he want to leave the
elite Pac-12 conference?"You'd think that somebody from
Lincoln would have an understanding of football on the national level. Shaden,
He's going to the SEC!Detractors have you're fun but you
know that if you're team ever beat Utah it would be the greatest thing
that's happened in happy valley for decades, whereas owning byu is
insignificant to the Program up on the Hill.
cougsndawgsThat was funny, but in all actuality, you may be
correct.Their QB coach is Jason Gesser, former Wassu All American,
former OC at U of I, and current coach of Brett Smith, who will be leaving
Wyoming early for the draft and projects as a 2nd to 4th round pick. With the inroads the Utes are making in the South, I wouldn't be
surprised with to see Kyle bring in someone with connections down there.
Whaaaaaat???I second the vote to get Chris B hired as the new
co-co-co offensive coordinator. He would do a great job and fit in perfectly
with the Pac 12 staff. I never thought I would see a coach leave the prestige
of the pac 12 for a job with Miss. St. Doesn't Brian know what he is
leaving?Best of luck to him. Onward and upward!
Love this guy and I'll always be thankful for what he's done for the
Utes. Watching Brian play pitch and catch and destroy the mighty crimson tide in
the Sugar Bowl will probably be the sports memory of my life.
Good luck to Brian, he was a great QB at the U and though he has always been
older than his years, he was put into a tough position in trying to be a PAC-12
Offensive Coordinator as a 25 year old. I think MSU is getting a very good
coach in BJ, with valuable experience working with Norm Chow and Dennis
Erickson, along with Aaron Roderick, Whittingham, Dave Schramm, etc.One thing that is apparent from Utah's experience in the PAC-12 is that
this league is full of excellent football coaches who know the game inside &
out. (This applied to basketball as well. There are no weak sisters in the
PAC, really)BYU's experience in promoting Brandon Doman to OC
prematurely is much like the situation at Utah with BJ as the youngest OC in the
nation. There's every reason to think both these guys could be successful
in different situations.
I have not followed any of the coaches from the Wyoming pipeline, and there have
surely been excellent coaches there in the past that have gone on to do great
things at other schools. I can't help the feeling that Chris B. could be
confused and affrighted at the concept that coaches from a lesser conference
than "his" own might be called upon to right the ship before it turns
Sorry to see him leave. His departure will help the Utes
BJ's history as a coach at the U says so much about KW's decision
making. KW comes off as calm, cool, and collected but his staff-related
decisions make him seem impetuous, short sighted, and lacking judgment. Where
is the AD in this mess?Thanks for the Sugar Bowl memories, BJ - best
game in the history of Utah football! Watching that game on TV was way more
exciting than watching the Fiesta Bowl game in person.
Hope he makes it back to Utah afar his SEC experience.
Smart move to get out while he can. After another season in the basement of the
PAC the rest of the coaching staff will also be looking for work next year.
BJ is a class act, Miss St is lucky to have him. Despite his shortcomings as a
coordinator at Utah, he's a great football mind an even better man of high
character. Mississippi State just became the only SEC team I'll root for
this year. Good luck, BJ!
I don't really know how good of a coach Johnson is, but he was a great QB
and a class act. There aren't too many guys / coaches that would have
played in Whit's music chair game with as much class and grace as Brian
did. I don't think he got to opportunity to prove what he could do at
Utah. No OC can implement their schemes and show their impact in one year, but
apparently that's all the time an OC gets at Utah. I wonder who the OC
will be next year? Good luck at MSU.
I just don't understand...why in the world would he want to leave the elite
Cougsndawgs I can't disagree. The bigger question is whether Whitt
will promote someone already on staff or will Christianson bring in the new qb
coach? That's where your comment is in play. If Whitt allows the new OC
to bring the qb coach, I will at least concede that Whitt is making progress
with organizational decisions. Of course, that doesn't mean the program
will be any better off.
And this just weeks after Utah "fans" told us both Erickson and Brian
Johnson supported the move to bring the Wyoming guy in?
Oh, I'm sure Aaron Roderick still has plenty of time to talk him out of it.
The new QBs coach will be the new OC next year! I hear the U is great at
recruiting. Recruiting offensive coordinators. They land a great one every
And so it begins....
PocyUte:"it'll be interesting to see who he brings in to replace
Brian"I thought that was a given...what's the QB
coach's name at Wyoming? I'm sure we'll be getting that
Good for Brian.I hope he does well there. He has always been a
great representative for Utah. Whit has done a good job with hires
this off season, it'll be interesting to see who he brings in to replace
Brian. My guess is it will be someone with recruiting connections to the
Interesting development. I wonder what the chances are the Donovan Isom follows
BJ to MSU. Surely, BJ knew he was going to make this move before the NLI was
over.Good luck, Brian and thank you for the quarterback legacy you
left at Utah!
Re Cougar Blue. . . lots what?
I guess being the co-co-co offensive coordinator lots it's appeal.
I think there is now an opening for Chris B and the wealth of football knowledge
he would bring to the utes. Good luck to Brian in Mississippi.
Good Luck Brian. Johnson was a casualty of accepting too much responsibility
too soon. He didn't have the experience needed to be the OC at Utah.
He'll be a great recruiter for Mullin at Southern Miss. For now a QB coach
is where he should be. He'll grow and learn and someday become a great OC
and maybe even a head coach.
If this is indeed true, then Brian has a very talented qb to work with. Because
Dan Mullen is infinitely better than his predecessors, he can stay as long as he
wants in Starkville. I wouldn't blame Brian for going there. SEC football
is a way of life here in the South, and it will probably be an eye opener to
Brian. And Mullen probably wants to hit LA and TX harder recruiting. If it is
true then, welcome to Mississippi Brian, it's great to have y'all
here! Instead of "Ki!Yi!" it will be "And then we'll yell,
yell, yell, yell!"
Rats are jumping off the ship. He is just getting a years head start on the rest
of the coaching staff.
If this is true, then best of luck to Brian at MSU. He has been a great
ambassador for the U and a fine example as both a player and a coach.Sadly, I suspect that part of the thought process in evaluating whether to
take what appears to be a lateral position was the fact that Coach Mullin is
likely to be at MSU longer than Coach Whit will be at the U. Hopefully, they
will both have long tenures.