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Published: Friday, Feb. 7 2014 6:35 p.m. MST

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Are we going to pretend it's not connected? It's what everyone associates with pornography and it's banned in the law of chastity too.

get her done
Bountiful, UT

With the internet, no one is exempt from being stupid. You can not fix stupid, and that video shows that.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Won't miss Leno one bit. The guy was semi funny 20 years ago but just got trashy the last 10 years trying for the cheap laugh. No wonder he is gone.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I am puzzled as to why non violent porn is spiritually harmful and why intimacy in marriage is not. The marriage act is more realistic and intense yet it is deemed as harmless.

If anyone has a (logical) explanation please feel free to share it with someone who is trying to understand.

jcobabe
Provo, UT

Typical media treatment of this issue. A message about trying to help your friends who have a problem with porn doesn't make splashy headlines. Watch the video yourself. It is well done, and contains nothing even remotely like what the journalists have reported. It dramatizes a devotional talk from the president of Ricks College. There is nothing insensitive or offensive about it.

We should not feel ashamed about seeking help for our friends. Anyone not conflicted in that circumstance has a difficult enough time doing the right thing. I pray to God for help in making such awful decisions, because to anyone with half a brain, it is not an easy thing to face. But just because it is tough does not excuse us from taking responsible action.

boneheaded, but not a smidgen
SLC, UT

you can't expect liberals and comedians to examine something before they comment on it. They will always be disconnected because they don't understand that you need to understand something, in this case watch something, before reaching a conclusion..

southmtnman
Provo, UT

“Neither my talk nor the video has anything to do with masturbation," Clark said. "There’s nothing in the video or in my talk about that. We were really focused on addictions, pornography, things that are really damaging spiritually to people.”

I don't think pornography is addictive without the masturbation, is it? This seems disingenuous of Brother Clark.

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

I still miss Johnny Carson.

kolob1
sandy, UT

When the number of words needed to explain something exceeds the number of words in the thing being explained then you know that the thing being explained was wrong in the first place.

Bill McGee
Alpine, UT

Saying the video is about the spiritual war one wages against pornography addiction, but it's not masturbation is like saying the self-discipline required for dieting isn't about eating food. You don't have to misunderstand the message to find it a bit creepy. Especially when you toss a roommate into the mix.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Our beliefs and our faith are always twisted and misrepresented by others and always have been. Anti-Mormon sites do it deliberately and there will be more to come. We just have to keep out faith and endure to the end.

Million
Bluffdale, UT

I read a comment the other day that 100% of men have masturbated. Obviously that is not true but the figure is probably in the 90% range. I guess heaven will only be able to choose from 10% or less of the males to be able to get in.

Ultramom
Spanish Fork, UT

If an individual wants to make an educational video about anything these days, especially religious in nature, then please be prepared for scrutiny and critical examination from all sides. That being said, if it becomes the butt of jokes, well that happens too. But if you truly believe in your work, the content, and your efforts, then it does not need to be defended or explained.

Spikey
Layton, UT

First, I want to say this: Usually when men (and women) look at sexually explicit materials, they are doing so along with masturbation. Not always, of course, but that is generally part of it. Why look at the pictures if there is no stimulation going on, to put it honestly.

Second, and most importantly, you cannot actually be "addicted" to sexually explicit materials. Addictions come with an increasing tolerance, causing more and more and more to be needed to satisfy, along with physical withdrawal symptoms, ie: the sweats, the shakes, needing hospitalization and/or medications. Compulsive behaviors CAN be associated with sexually explicit materials but 'addiction' is a myth happily promulgated by the media.

As a side point, "Pornography" itself is not a scientific term (in other words, nobody can agree on WHAT, exactly, pornography is. Some think nude paintings are pornographic, while others just think it means "dirty magazines and videos, etc). For those afore mentioned reasons, sexually explicit materials are very hard to regulate.

glendenbg
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't offer this comment to offend and I hope it doesn't offend anyone.

This video went viral because it reflects and plays into the cultural stereotypes about Mormons and Mormonism. Everything in it - it's painfully earnest tone,the prudish concern about sexuality and Clark's staid and somber voice-overs - reflects the popular culture perception of Mormons and Mormonism. Even the proposed solution to the problem - tell your bishop - plays into the stereotype of Mormons as unfailingly obedient to church authorities.

It's also an example of the gap between the cultural worldview of the Mormon faithful in the Intermountain West and much of the rest of America. The video's visual conceit of the "great war" is painfully and almost naively earnest. As with alcohol consumption, it frames the issue as a moral struggle. Most Americans regard addiction as a medical/mental health issue. Not to put too fine a point on it, it's as if this video (and the Mormonism is represents) are speaking a different language than the rest of America.

That's why it went viral and that's why it was mocked.

JTP
Payson, UT

cjb

How about one being outside of the marriage covenant and the other inside the marriage covenant.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

cjb, not sure if you are serious or not.

Intimacy in marriage is focused on a relationship with a loving spouse not some picture you are seeing on your computer. You don't see a difference in those two? Once you get addicted to looking at the pictures on your computer, it will be very difficult to have a normal relationship with a real spouse later on. It certainly won't help.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The whole premise and the way it was presented is kind of funny.

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

The main problem with porn from a secular view is the fact that, like any addiction, it will take up a lot of your time that should be spent on other, more valuable pursuits and you will eventually incorrectly place your addiction's priority over other important things in your life (like family, friends, work). All of this will lead to an unhappy life and this is without any discussion of the spiritual/religious effects.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

What is the LDS church's stance on masturbation, anyway? I honestly don't know.

When I was a youngster, we were taught that it was wrong, and an LDS Apostle counseled young men to tie their hand to the bed post to eliminate the temptation, but as with a lot of things, understandings evolve through time, and I think it's probably a good thing to understand what the current policy or teachings are.

Because it is a missionary church that seeks converts, there is a natural interest to learn and get clarification on exactly what LDS doctrine is, or is not. The Church has offered greater clarity recently on other issues, this issue may be a good one to get an authoritative position on, as well.

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