MR: Both the gas and electric utility has programs to help people with trouble
paying for their bills. "Reach" and "Lend a Hand" both collect
from other bill payers for those less well off. You probably have seen the
envelopes in your bill, Mike. Also there as tax payer subsidies available to
install more efficient heating systems in houses. Hence the argument that to as
people to stop wood fires during high pollution days and nights is not too
punitive. Everyone has to give to solve the problem.
Great letter, spot on.Mike Richards: Given your business needs, I
would think that you should still be able to travel around and get your job
done... but possibly in a vehicle that has significantly cleaner emissions.
Certainly you can see that driving around in a coal-powered steam car (an
exaggeration for illustration) would be a very selfish act, right?Well, if your car/truck cannot meet higher emission standards, you may need to
invest more in your equipment. The airlines have had to reduce the noise their
airplanes make for a long time, in graduated steps. The old jets that sounded
like the Space Shuttle taking off no longer meet the noise abatement
requirement.And 2-Bits and others are exactly right when they ask
what individuals can do voluntarily to help. One thing that 2-Bits said
recently really rang true - we have too many people in these valleys, too close
together. If they move the prison, maybe it should be green space.Improving air quality will require a broad mix of efforts, sacrifices, smart
policies and some economic pain. There is no free lunch.
It's all about solutions to an impressive problem, isn't it? Do
whatever we can to lower emissions--refineries, smelters, and other high
emitters included along with those who leave their engines on unnecessarily--and
we've made big progress. Keep thinking economy, and we end up
shortchanging the future in Utah's inversion-prone valleys, bowls. Allowing legislators to do the heavy lifting is a mistake.
They're not up to it. Youy an I are, however.
There's a book that everyone should read. It was given to me by someone
who posts here frequently. I asked him for some advice about doing work similar
to what he does. Instead of answering me, he gave me a copy of "Zen and the
Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Robert M. Pirsig. He asked me to read the
book before we talked about business "stuff". It's a terrific book
that gently challenges us to think about why we get "uptight" about
things.That book changed the way that I look at people and at how
people solve problems. This topic, about air quality shows that there are
people who want to do their part and that there are people who want someone else
to fix everything for them, just like in the book.If we expect to
solve the problem ourselves, we need to show everyone our personal list. If we
expect "government" to solve the problem, we need to see
"government's" list, its costs, and its impact on everyone. After
we see the lists, we can intelligently discuss the issue.
The Real MaverickOrem, UTBig oil has our legislature in its back
pocket.==== Great point -- I got me thinking
about the refineries just down the hill from the Utah State Capital.Maybe
there is an alterior motive as to why they don't want move out in the
desert -- ala, out of sight, out of mind...Like Bill Clinton
wearing Monika's tie before her court appearance.A constant and
subtle little visual reminder as to who really holds their purse strings come
re-election...Who's your daddy?!...
It becomes very hard to enact these types of reasonable and common sense reforms
when you are bought and paid for by big oil. Big oil has our legislature in its
back pocket. Who looks out for our us if our government refuses to?
Open Minded,Who got you started on the metric system? It wasn't
me!But about your assumptions (based on your stereotypes).1. How do you know everybody who opposed the metric system was
"conservative"? Could some non-conservatives also been opposed?You make these assumptions about people. Like if they resist the
metric system (therefore they are conservative). They didn't like
unleaded gas (they must all be conservative). They are flashing their lights
at me and flipping me off for driving slow in the left lane (they must be
conservatives)... but you don't know that. That's just your
"assumption".When you live your life thinking your
assumptions, your labels, and your judgements (based on your political
stereotypes for people)... are reality... I have to wonder how in touch you are
with reality. Our stereotypes and prejudices aren't reality.I
don't remember when unleaded gas went away, but I don't think it was a
political issue.I remember resistance to the metric system. But again...
It wasn't a political issue.I think you put too much credence
in your hard and fast political stereotypes of people (that's not "Open
Good letter Nancy. However, based on these responses and what I hear from the
legislature hill it will be amazing if anything will ever get done. At least,
when we have decided the gas masks are inadequate we can leave much quicker with
an 80 mph speed limit.
Yep, let's hit our economy with heavy penalties. Great idea.
2 bitsCottonwood Heights, UT====== 1. know who it
is addressed to.2. Utah only has to meet Federal "Minimums"
-- States are free to pass tougher restrictions anytime they want.Look at
California's Emmission standards for an example.3. Conservative
WANT clean Air and Water -- but are consistantly dragged into it kicking and
screaming every inch of the way. Tell me, what do you or your side Propose?
Anything?? More stonewalling, obstruction, and lack of ideas for improvement
from the Party of NO.4. I stand by my historical fact of presidence
of a lack of change set by Conservatives with the perfect example of taking Lead
out Gasoline, Thank You.and5. Don't EVEN get me
starting on their reluctance and apprehensions of using the Metric System.
Open Minded Mormon,The letter is not to Congress... it's to the Utah
State Legislature.The Utah State Legislature is not Congress... so
the word play on Congress and Progress are funny but not very relevant. But I
get what you're getting at. Progressive = Good. Conservative = Bad. I
get it... I get it. And if you can link one side with Congress (which
everybody has bad feelings about now days)... all the better.IMO...
All this partisan bickering is nonsense when it comes to clean air. We ALL want
clean air (not just Progressives). We ALL want clean water (not just
Progressives). We just think different methods will work (some want more
liberty, others want more restrictions).This is not a
political-partisan topic (IMO). Why try so hard to make it into one?
These are highly rational proposals, which are highly unlikely to be given a
hearing by our Legislature. Thanks to the letter writer for the good thoughts,
but no chance.
This really should be a no brainer....but, Change is hard for
Conservatives, this is called PROGRESS -- and they tend to be
anti-Progressive.I remember the same crying and belly aching when
the mean old nasty Gv'mnt made them take LEAD out of Gasoline too.
We live in a society where "one size" does not fit all. How many of
those who burn wood can afford to use gas? Are you going to make those who are
too poor to heat their homes with gas freeze? Car pooling is great if you work
at a job with exact hours, but how many of us don't have those kinds of
jobs? How many have to work until the job is done? How many of us have to
travel from location to location all day long? Yes, if car pooling is a viable
option, it should be used. Some of the lucky ones in my family have 9 to 5
jobs. They already car pool.Why not put a "Sorry, the valley is
full" sign up on all roads leading into Salt Lake Valley? Why not deny all
new building permits in Salt Lake Valley? After all, if no one lived here,
there would only be the natural pollutants that have been here since Lake
All 3 of these would help. But we gotta quit expecting the Legislature to fix
our problems for us. The Legislature is just 29 people. There are nearly 2
million of us. If the legislature car pooled to work it would save a little.
If we all car pooled to work... it would save a lot. These are things we can
do TODAY (not next week, not next year, not in 2017).These are
solutions that don't require any more laws and regulations on the people.
It just requires people to be smart enough to regulate themselves.I
don't know why some always look to the Legislature to fix their problems...
when you are 100% capable of solving your problems yourself. When individuals
take small actions... collectively there is a huge impact. Because instead of
29 people doing something (that may work) there's 2 million people making
a small contribution that we know will work.And if some don't
cooperate (because they won't do it until there is a law forcing them to do
it)... at least we get some benefit even if only 1/2 (one million people) do it.
First rate letter! Good, specific suggestions.Well done!