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Published: Thursday, Feb. 6 2014 1:50 p.m. MST

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Esquire
Springville, UT

So the bottom line is that the ACA will actually give more Americans freedom. And the GOP is against that?

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

If by "freedom" you mean able to do stop working and live off the work of others, then yes, the ACA will give more Americans freedom.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Esquire,

Freedom do do exactly what?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

So Joe and Susan quit their jobs so they can qualify for the free government subsidies for health care ...but Dave and Karen have to work to PAY for those subsidies that Joe and Susan get for free. So the Democrats new model for America is a nation of free loaders.

liberty or ...?
Ogden, UT

I love this play on words "JOB LOCK" as if you never had the freedom to quit your job before and get your employment and health insurance from another provider. I was taught in college that its less than smart to voluntarily leave you current employment before securing another position barring a major conflict of interest or problem. Incidentaly you quit your job, lose your insurance you still have to pay for health insurance under ACA subsidies unless you go on wellfare so now your unemployed with no income and a wellfare recipient. Wow when I was a kid in America I could aspire to be a independant wealthy doctor,engineer,scientist, business owner, or astronaut. I guess in new America I can aspire to be a government dependant wellfare recipiant.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Can you really call it "doubling down" when you have been doing the exact same thing for years?

Just sayin.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . ACA will actually give more Americans freedom."

Yeah, freedom from working or caring for their needs and wants. Freedom from responsibility. Freedom from bettering oneself.

Just another in a long series of cynical liberal promises of freedom from consequences.

Saddest of all -- liberals use these disingenuous, impossible promises as the scrip in their evil vote-buying scams. They've embraced, even exalted the discredited "free lunch" principle to the level of a sacrament in their socialist cult.

History teaches us that this can only end badly.

That's probably the reason liberal educators no longer teach history.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

If you have both parents in a family working, then one of them gets a raise or enough benefits that you don't need the second one working anymore and that second one quits (to stay at home and raise kids or whatever)... that's a negative?

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Republicans: It's the law of the land, improve it if you don't like it.
Also, try to justify why you believe it's ok for Americans to be without access to healthcare. Why do so many Americans have to declare bankruptcy due to health bills?

1covey
Salt Lake City, UT

It's better to be a dollar below the poverty line than just above it. You have to be well above it to be at the same point as those receiving assistance. Healthcare also involves taking care of your health=diet, exercise,rest,etc..Most of us need to do better at this- i doesn't cost much. Yeah, keep clean and brush your teeth.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

Still?

Repubs, Obamacare was so 2010.

Get over it.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

How long will American taxpayers put up with all this? So many takers so few payers!

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

But...if people can now leave employment which they had because they wanted the health coverage, the employment is still there. People can leave jobs they didn't really need and those jobs then become available to the unemployed who need the income. It's like job creation. If we could only put in place a single payer health care system, people wouldn't have to make employment decisions like this, and employers would have a huge burden removed.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Doubling Down?

Last I heard the Tea-Party had their little Government shutdown tantrum,
it didn't work, completely back-fired,
and now the GOP has been trying to save face for the next election ever since.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Just keep it up Repubs..of course I know you will. Everyone knows what the report actually said. It said the ACA will increase the number of jobs and increase economic growth. It also said there are millions of Americans who work a specific job for health care, those are the ones who will now have a choice. It doesn't mean those people will quit working all together and be fee loaders, It means they have the freedom to do work they want without worrying about health care. You all are just making up the rest, as usual.

Once again you are building a bubble around yourself that blocks out and distorts reality. This time it's about the ACA and it's effects. Your distortions don't change reality they just change your perception.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ VST, if you have been paying attention, many took part time jobs just to get health insurance. Now they can get it on their own terms. Working is now a choice. Oh wait, Republicans are not pro-choice. They really want the government to make decisions for people.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Why haven't the jobs come back? Why haven't the wages come back? Obama declared the recession over and the country to be in recovery in June of 2009, yet we have more people out of the workforce than we had at the height of the recession.

Now we hear, from the CBO no less, that the ACA will kill jobs, and destroy workers' incentive to work. Before the CBO said the ACA would create jobs and save everyone money. Now they are finally telling the truth instead of saying what Obama tells them to say.

The liberal dreamland is unraveling into a fiscal nightmare, and a human nightmare.

Republicans would be foolish to smile and nod like everything is great (like the democrats are doing). Of course republicans should point out the fallacies of this massive mess. We need some hope and change!

This article makes it sound like the republicans are blowing the problems out of proportion, but I think the problems are still massively understated.

If you want to see real doubling down, review history when the democrats danced on the grave of every dead soldier under the Bush administration during the Iraq War.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

"Now we hear, from the CBO no less, that the ACA will kill jobs"
When the report was released, it was misinterpreted by the media. The next day, Congressional Budget Office director Douglas Elmendorf clarified that the law would reduce unemployment, not "kill jobs".

"This article makes it sound like the republicans are blowing the problems out of proportion"
Well, sure! When Republicans make a claim about a report that is completely not true, one could say that it is "blowing it out of proportion".

E Sam
Provo, UT

This isn't a situation where two sides disagree on what the report says. It's a situation where one side is describing it accurately, and the other side is deliberately misrepresenting it, for partisan purposes.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"Why haven't the jobs come back? Why haven't the wages come back?"

Because trickle down economic policies don't work.

We are still very much using them.

The poor and middle class don't have enough wealth to consume enough goods to force big business to hire more.

The decades of class warfare waged against the poor and middle classes started under Reagan and have taken a toll. The wealth inequality gap where such a small percentage owns so much of the nation's wealth has made it darn near impossible for us to dig ourselves out of this stagnant economy.

Without government intervention and stimulus spending, there is no way that the poor and middle classes will ever be able to spark businesses into jumpstarting this economy.

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