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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 5 2014 8:00 p.m. MST

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Joe Schmoe
Orem, UT

Ouch. Welcome to irrelevancy. That took less time than I thought it would. Recruits flipping from utah to USU is a sign of things to come.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Joe, it was one (your post insinuates there were multiple) recruit who originally committed to Utah as a kid who was going to serve a mission. He changed his mind, so did Utah. It's as easy as that.

If you want to stir up contention, please go somewhere other than a Utah board.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Joe,

Utah's average star recruiting class of 2014: 2.63
byu's: 2.68

That's the first time in 5 years Utah has had a lower class than byu, and it was by .05

Last year the difference was .66 in favor of Utah, a difference of more than 10 times the margin that byu fans are bragging about now.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Guess what place a dead last finish in the Pac 12 for recruiting would be in the WAC 2.0(mwc)?

#1.

Which isn't surprising considering the Pac 12 went 14-1 against the wac2.0(mwc) last year. A "small fish" in the big 12 is still bigger than a "big fish" in the WAC

Excited for the future, still a believer in Whittingham.

He's taken us to the top of the nation before. He'll do it again.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@pocy

"He changed his mind, so did Utah. It's as easy as that."

Well half of that is true, the other half is you spinning away. lol

Crow
Sandy , UT

Once again Duckhunter you are wrong. Utah coaches decided that the TE position was not a priority in the class and spent less effort recruiting Tukuafu in the end. Utah has 5 returning TE's that are lower class man 2 were redshirt Freshman so the need for a TE in this class was not there. When I talked to one of the coaches tonight at the LOI party he said they believe that Westlee Tonga will get a medical redshirt this year that would give Utah 6 TE's. If Tonga comes back they have their starter already in place with Moeai as his back up who played significant minutes when Murphy was hurt.

There is no spin Utah went another way and good for Tukuafu he got a scholarship at a local school and hopefully he can contribute to the Aggies.

Christine B. Hedgefog
Salt Lake City, UT

"He's taken us to the top of the nation before. He'll do it again."
LOL, that's a good one. The battle cry from 6 years ago 'We're #2, We're #2'

He better get you to the top of the nation THIS SEASON, because it'll likely be his last shot at it.

Glad to see Chrissy comparing the PAC basement Utes against BYU again. So much for leaving the Y in the past as they move onward and upward, I think that's still how she's describing it. Where's Urban Legend when you need him?

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Well CB only references one source calls into question the validity (education) of his point. Check out ESPN 3-4 star guys 14-star and a transfer receiver that was a 3 star coming out of High school with 1-1000 yard receiving season for BYU (not calculated in average on any site). Utah per ESPN 1-4-star (Lowell Lotulelei late qualifier) 12-3star Which class sounds better considering 4-star players are impact players (that is the definition of 4 star)?
I think the Utes got exactly what they needed in speed and it will be fun to see.
Hopefully DJ Law can qualify, but signing a double letter of intent is not a good sign.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

sorry
14-3star

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

I'm beginning to feel sorry for Whittingham. I think he knows that the Utes will always be at the bottom of the Pac-12, and it will cost him his job. Too bad - he was top dog in the MWC.

U 90
Corona, CA

@Joe Schmoe "Welcome to irrelevancy"
How does it feel to be 0-4 against an irrelevant program. What does that make BYU, sub-irrelevant?

@Ed Grady "the Utes will always be at the bottom of the Pac-12"
And BYU will never be invited to the PAC12 or a real conference. BYU was 0-2 against the middle to bottom of the PAC12 in 2013.

@Hedgefog "Glad to see Chrissy comparing the PAC basement Utes against BYU again"
You do realize that we compare Utah to BYU to point out your hypocrisy. BYU was owned by the Utes in 2013, so why the smack Hedgy?

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Duck

I stand by what I wrote. Utah wanted him, IF he was going to go on a mission, they didn't have space for a TE not named Dalton Shultz in this class.

You can spin it however you want to, but your bitterness toward Utah is sad. talk about LOL

Wookie
Omaha, NE

Truth be told, and not that these are bad kids, but I am not impressed with the recruits or the recruiting efforts of Whit. I have a feeling that the U's inability to compete in the PAC 12 at a "respectable" level is beginning to show. I think Whit is a great guy, but his ability to maintain consistency in the offense and to create an identity may be a huge part of this problem. I am proud to be a member of the PAC 12, even if we haven't had the best showing as of yet. However, I do know that it is a matter of time before the U will be respectable again. They have the resources now and the conference to be able to bring in a big name coach. I don't get the comparisons that is taking place here between the Y and the U. One only has to look as far as the "w" column for true comparisons.

GO UTES!!

let's roll
LEHI, UT

Unless we don't have an issue with having the SEC have two (or more) teams in the four team playoff every year, I propose we all stop giving any serious credence to the star system for recruiting.

The SEC has SEVEN of the top 10 recruiting classes this year. Only one team from the West (USC) was in the top 10 and they were number 10.

I'm concerned that the star rankings are unduly influenced by who is recruiting a player...if there are SEC schools recruiting a kid, he's suddenly a 4 star when there is nothing else to distinguish him from a 3 star recruit who may not be getting SEC interest because he's made it known he wants to go to school close to home.

The system allows SEC teams to argue to everyone (including the selection committee) that they have the best athletes and the best teams (although they rarely play other Big 5 teams in OOC games).

Those who lend too much credence to the star system and recruiting ranking are unwittingly perpetuating the SEC's attempted monopoly of college football...(slight hyperbole acknowledged).

FT
salt lake city, UT

What happened yesterday is irrelevant but what happens on 12 days next year is. If Coach Whit does not have the Utes above .500 and to a bowl game he'll be on his own recruiting trip next year.

Protecting This House
Salt Lake City, UT

Speed, speed, and more speed! Music to my ears. Looking forward to watching these track stars shining come September! Go Utes!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@pocy

I'm sure you're right, usually teams offer scholarships to kids, like utah did to this kid, because they don't really want them. Interestingly utah "fans" are also claiming that the JC wr BYU got from california, that utah also offered, really tried to sign his utah LOI but utah wouldn't accept it so he signed the BYU one instead.

I enjoy seeing utah "fans" trying so desperately to spin this stuff. Face it, these kid didn't want to go to utah and spend the holiday's home bowless with a losing record.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Duck

I never said Utah didn't want him. I said they didn't have room for him in this class. Had he stayed by his original plan, he would still be in Utah's plans. You see, since he was a sign and send he didn't count against this class anyway. But, as I said before, Utah didn't have room for him in THIS class.

That being said, it is also not uncommon for schools to take a commitment, then re-evaluate the class, and cut ties with the player.

In terms of Devon Blackmon, it is not true that he tried to send in a LOI, he did however want to commit to Utah, but they didn't take him as they had a commit from Kendric Young, the coaches opting for a freshman over a JUCO transfer.

You have admitted you only follow recruiting to about the extent of whatever the Herald reported. There are more sites that provide much more in-depth coverage and than the Herald.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@pocy

utah had several decommits in the last week or two leading up to signing day as well as a scholarship for frison if he had somehow decided to go to utah afterall which he did not. They had plenty of scholarships available for both Blackmon and Tukuafu and would have taken both if they had decided to sign. They did not want to sign with utah, just like frison did not want to sign with utah, trying to pretend utah didn't have room for them, when they obviously did, or didn't want them, just looks like desperate spin. It IS desperate spin.

utah "fans" have developed this fantasy that every recruit that has the choice between these 3 schools would prefer utah and if any of them goes to BYU or usu it is because utah "didn't want them" or "didn't have room for them" or some other rationalization to help protect that fantasy. Tell us again how many kids utah wound up signing? Wasn't it less than 20? They had room for both, they NEEDED both. Both just didn't want utah.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Again, your incorrect.

Utah finished with one extra schollie, that Whittingham said was already earmarked for someone, that has yet to be determined.

Utah definitely had some recommits that hurt. Frison was one and so was Donovon Wilson.

Just because it doesn't fit your thought process doesn't make it wrong. You only see the end result, and are going to spin it as negative toward Utah as you can. But that doesn't make your correct. I'm sorry, Duck, but I am absolutely correct on the Tukuafu and Blackmon.

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