Comments about ‘Move the Utah State Prison, relocation authority tells lawmakers’

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Published: Thursday, Feb. 6 2014 7:14 a.m. MST

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Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

The real estate agents/developers that populate the Utah Legislature must be thrilled. Think of all the taxpayer money set to come their and their friends way. Isn't socialism grand (privatize the gain, socialize the cost).

SP
Salt Lake City, UT

It is reassuring to see people take bold steps for the long-term good of a city. It is a good change from the short-term focus of most politicians.

Now I wish we could do the same thing with the oil refineries near Bountiful!

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Follow the money. There is still no compelling reason given to move.

The costs to taxpayers will be enormous, regardless of whatever is promised, and the ongoing costs for transportation of prisoners for trials, medical treatment and the like will be astronomical compared to present, and cost to staff the prison away from the Wasatch front will be much higher.

Let's see some actual facts and numbers from UNBIASED sources, not the real estate speculators who stand to profit from this scheme.

McMurphy
St George, Utah

Rock has it right. Was there every any serious doubt about what the recommendation would be?? There is far too much money to be made buying and selling property by our Lords and Masters on Capitol Hill or their friends to just leave things be. An annual economic benefit of $1 billion plus ?? Really ?? Every year ??

CynicJim
Taylorsville, UT

This thing just snowballs. The estimates for the move is in the 850 million dollar range. The Legislator should ask for half that from the developers as front money, the loans would quickly be paid off from the profits they will realize from their development. The current site is paid for and except for potential profit to developers there is no reason to move the prison. Com'on Gov, let's put a stop to this.

Spiff
Salt Lake City, UT

Follow the money my friends, follow the "tax payer" money.

VIDAR
Murray, UT

If they insist on moving the prison, it should be required for them to build the new one in Park city. And the real estate developers that will benefit financially need to pay the full cost.

stevo123
slc, ut

Folks, This is going to cost a cool Billion before it is done. It would be far cheaper to cut a ten million dollar check to each of the supporter/developers. Privatize the profit, Socialize the cost, the Utah way.

Ranch
Here, UT

Money talks.

skibird
Spanish Fork, UT

The Legislators pushing the hardest for this keep saying that the State will get a lot of money from future taxes that will come in. Yet you know that any business/company that buys the land will get massive tax breaks and the money the Legislature is promising won't actually happen.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

I'd be interested in who is on the committee. Since we already have a facility in place, why do we need to build another? Let's spend the money on upgrading the facility that is in place instead of enriching a bunch of developers.

I agree with skibird. There will be so many tax breaks given that the state won't get anything for years.

SP
Salt Lake City, UT

Do any of these people commenting on this article live in the Draper/Bluffdale area? Do we really want a huge prison in the geographical center of the Utah County/Salt Lake County metro area?

On the one hand there is the short term cost to move the prison. On the other hand there is the livability and desirability of our metro area for the next 200 years.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@SP

"Do any of these people commenting on this article live in the Draper/Bluffdale area?"

If so, was it a surprise that there was a prison there?

Particulars of no Consequence
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@SP - What currently impacts your quality life more?
(1) the presence of the prison or (2) the air quality in the SL valley

Do you understand the source of our air quality issues? It is not the refineries in North SL, it is the cars in the valley. What do you think will happen to the number of cars as we cater to real estate developers and provide public subsidization for the construction of large numbers of new homes and their infrastructure?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

This is going to be fun to watch. By comparison, the massively corrupt $50 billion Sochi debacle now on the backs of Russian taxpayers will look like a picnic.

Prodicus
Provo, UT

This is what the caucus system does to us, folks. Our legislators do not feel they are at all accountable to the general public. They are more beholden to real estate developers.

People keep claiming that primaries are easy for moneyed interests to buy, but it's a lot easier and cheaper for those wishing to profit at the public's expense to sway a few dozen delegates than tens of thousands of voters.

Count My Vote won't fix our system entirely. But it, along with dumping many of our present legislators, would be quite a good start.

CB
Salt Lake City, UT

Have to agree with with 'Particulars'. Having all these problems with air quality, and now
they want to add how many more thousand of cars, homes, Bar BQ's, etc. at the point of the mountain to flow down into the valley? This does not make sense when on one hand you are
trying to overcome the pollution and on the other hand making plans to put even more into the
'soup'.

lket
Bluffdale, UT

micron got so many tax breaks and water rights given to it and then never opened to full operation.
the reason utah is buds with big companies is the average Joe pays more tax than mant corporations do. we new at the first they would ok the move only the mayor was against it. go krony and self interest of elected.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

After actually reading the report, I can see that there is a compelling case showing that moving the prision is beneficial to the state.

My only concern would be the location. It would be best to move it to a location that does not require the family of the inmates to travel excessively far to visit their family members.

I know that the liberals here hate it when somebody profits, but in this case this outside group along with the companies that gave their inputs show that it is possible for this to be an economic benefit. So, my question to the liberals here is why don't you want the state to have this economic benefit?

JMHO
Southern, UT

To SP: Bluffdale used to be more rural than Cedar City. It doesn't matter where they move the prison to, urban sprawl will soon (20 - 50 years) engulf it. Who would've thought 30 years ago that houses would be high value near the point? Only insiders.

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