Regarding the accuracy of star ratings, sample size is essential to consider. If
you show me one 5-star kid and ask me if he'll turn out to be a stud, the
only answer is "who knows?" You show me five 4-star kids and ask me if
any of them will turn out to be studs, I'll say "probably."If you put a team stacked with 4-star recruits versus one with mostly
2-star recruits and ask which one would likely come out on top head-to-head, the
only rational bet would be to go with the former. So, yes, as Bronco says
"time will tell" with each of them, but overall higher ratings mean
better athletes. Better athletes means a larger margin for error. Lower ratings
equals greater degree of difficulty.So, yes, we have our Jake
Heapses and our Cody Hoffmans, but they are outliers. If you ask the BYU
coaches, I'm sure they'd love to get more 4-5 star kids.
@AZguyIf you go strictly on the "avg. star rankings" and
drop the "number of players signed" factor, (which is irrelevant anyway)
BYU then had the #49 ranked class, not 65th..These rankings are
quite subjective and misleading.
@ WookieGo to ESPN and click on: ncaaf, recruiting, teams,
scorecard, utah, offers. You will see that utah and BYU offered the
same 8 people, and BYU only lost 1 to utah. BYU got Nacua, Blackmon, Bushman,
Fuga, Kafusi, Leiataua, and Fonua, while utah only got Christiansen. 7 to 1
However, Bronco got it wrong with usc according to ESPN. usc got 2 recruits
while BYU got 3. BYU only got 1 out of 5 from stanford, but Leiataua was still
a nice last minute grab. Anytime you can steal a few recruits from stanford and
usc is a good year. utah got a nice one in Barton, but I think he was a utah
guy through and through, so I don't think BYU wanted to waste the offer.
You never know how recruits will turn out, but I don't see anything that
makes me think utah will go bowling next year, three years running.
Where's chris b???
What players picked the Y over the U in the recruiting battle? I read
someone's comment that it was 7-1, BYU won the battle 7 times and lost 1 to
Utah. Just curious where this information comes from. Good luck to all the
recruits, stay healthy and live the Honor Code.GO UTES!!
So, a good core of signing outside linebackers, including Warner from my neck of
the woods. Warner is a 4-star athlete and ranked as high as the #15 outside
linebacker in the country from one recruiting agency, but, yet, we still read of
Bronson Kaufusi, all 6'8" of him, being switched to the outside
linebacker position. I'd sure like to read of Coach Bronoc's rationale
for that move. I've read nothing that explains why.
Ratings out of high school are way overblown. Where was Cody Hoffman rated? How
about Ziggy? Often it's what you do with them after they arrive and whether
they have what it takes inside. Look at Jake Heaps. He was a great high school
quarterback, but obviously he didn't have what it takes to be a great
college player. No knock on him personally. But some have it, some don't.
If recruiters could figure that out, they'd be making a lot more money than
Actually, BYU went 7-1 against Utah with the late pick up of Nacua.
I remember long ago when a certain #1QB was recruited .
AZguy"I am not minimizing the young men that signed. But, why
are we ranked 65th in the nation."Rankings are based not only on
quality, but quantity of players signed.Since BYU has a bunch of
previous recruit returning from missions, BYU only had around 16 scholarships
available, while many schools signed their full compliment of 25.
I wouldn't say I was wrong, but I do at least feel better after seeing this
recruiting class. It appears very solid.I said earlier that BYU
should recruit more than 2 (now 3) kids from the state of Utah. I would like to
see 6-7 at least - but I really can't argue with what Bronco and his staff
did this time around. High School football in Utah is exceptional and clearly
has some very talented players. I just don't want to see them overlooked -
that's all I'm saying...As for that ESPN contract -
clearly it is paying dividends now.Bronco and staff - NICE JOB!
AZguyI think the limited number of recruits due to the number of
returning missionaries brings the rating down. No real way to factor that in
for an accurate comparison.
Nice job coaches! Great recruiting job this year. Independence is working.
Recruits from all over the place this year. They will get to be seen on
national TV week in and week out. They will get a great education at a great
University while maintaining standards of decency and respect. That
is BYU.Go Cougars!
I am not minimizing the young men that signed. But, why are we ranked 65th in
the nation. I have a hard time seeing how that will get us to the top 25. Go
cougs, but we need more 4 star guys.
Uriah Leiataua !
my bad, 3-1 against USC. What was the head-to-head vs. Stanford?
So BYU went 4-1 head-to-head against USC and 6-1 against Utah. Not too shabby.
I think something happened between recruiting from last year to this year.
This class is the most talented I have seen for BYU. This probably can be
attributed to several factors. Bronco brought up that a recruiting coordinator
was hired. With that performance, hire 2 of them.Obviously, the
position coaches should be praised. They did a lot of legwork. Now if we can
make an impression with winning tough games, the model in place to bring them in
will be put on steroids. Tom Holmoe probably had something to do with this
turnaround and should be praised as well. I see striving for excellence
here.Not good news for Utah, 1 four star. That is not enough to
compete in that conference. That was a WAC job. Unfortunately, the coach is not
long for keeping his job with that type of performance. He needs to fix this
problem quick. Recruiting is not everything, but it is the vehicle you fine
tune and put gas into. There is only so much you can do with the old Edsel.