To "Badgerbadger" the problem is that there is no simple solution. That
is why I question anybody who just wants to convert over to any of the
alternative fuel solutions.
"Roland - maybe our smog comes from China too. Get them to stop."I'd love to. Lets get rid of the subsidies we handout to our
corporations who are in China. Lets drastically raise taxes on them. Lets force
them back here to comply with our restrictions.
REdshirt " how do you propose to tax vehicles that do not burn fuel?"Great question. It is the question I have for you.That is
the problem. Utah is already short on road funds and is discussing a raise in
the gas tax. If we eliminate use of gas, no taxes will be collected to maintain
the roads. So HOW DO YOU propose we pay for roads? HOW DO YOU propose we have
those from out of state, who use our roads, contribute to the road maintenance?
Sounds to me like the citizens will get triple hammered. More
expensive cars, more expensive fuel for cars and house heat, and then add
another tax to replace the gas tax. I am not saying we
shouldn't consider alternatives, but we should do it with our eyes wide
open to all the effects.
I just drove from Twin Falls to Salt Lake. Clear and clean until Tremonton, then
brown and ugly. Very impressive.
To "LDS Tree-Hugger" so you want to make heating our homes cost more,
you want to keep the poor in their poverty because they cannot afford
transportation?Do you really want to diminish the quality of life
for all of Utah? Over the past 30 years the air in Utah has been getting
better. The bigger question is how bad is the short term exposure? I have seen
the studies that show that long term is bad, and short term can cause some
problems, but none show that the short term exposure creates permanent
problems.So again, why do you hate the poor, and why make heating
our houses so expensive?To "Badgerbadger" and how do you
propose to tax vehicles that do not burn fuel? How do you deal with people from
out of state passing through that use the roads, but do not require charging
while in the state?
Redshirt- You have to add a tax increase to cover the loss of taxes
from gasoline sales. It will add up really fast. Not to
mention that burning natural gas causes emissions too. Generating
electricity causes emissions. Roland - maybe our smog comes from
China too. Get them to stop.
RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTok, there is a problem, but what practical
solution is there?========= E. All of the above.That's the problem with your either/or, All-or-Nothing thinking --
ok, there is a problem, but what practical solution is there?If we
push for the CNG vehicles, we will make the cost of heating our homes jump
because of the higher demand on natural gas.If we push more hybrids,
you will hurt the poor because hybrids cost around $10,000 more than a
comparable all gasoline equivalent.If we push for more plug in
electric vehicles, that will again raise the cost of electricity, increase
electrical demands on the local power plants (increases pollution from those
sources), and will again hurt the poor because of higher automotive costs.Now this does not take into account the damage that the state road fund
will get as a result of lower gas and diesel fuel tax revenue.
Yah... I'm pretty sure people from outside bring it in with them... Just
like Rocky Anderson getting all ticked off at Bountiful residents coming to town
to shop and to work and fouling their otherwise pristine air.Yah...
I'm reminded of Dr' Seuess's "The Lorax".All
the dirty air, and then clean air being sold from a can for a
China's pollution is now reaching our west coast, so the writer could well
The writer may be right. How much do we know about how air and polluted air
circulate along the Wasatch Front?