Comments about ‘How 5 LDS basketball stars from Lone Peak model success amid America's 'war on boys'’

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Published: Sunday, Feb. 2 2014 6:20 a.m. MST

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Wisconsin Moderate
GREENDALE, WI

There isn't necessarily a war on boys as much as there is a war on minority boys. If the data were examined more closely the big differences are in minority boys. While more minority women go on to college (mostly community colleges), minority boys go either to the military or to prison. The traditional factory work that minorities with high school educations would do in the past are no longer here. The truth in sentencing legislation that has been implemented over the past 20 years has disproportionally affected boys, sending them to jail instead of to the workforce. This problem is even worse for minority boys. These are complex and very nuanced issues.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

Coolio... I agree!

Enough is enough!

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

How is treating others as equals considered a "war on boys"?

Scott Hoskins
Palmdale, CA

Y-ask-Y and sthmtnman are perfect examples of what is wrong. They unequivocally deny that there is any problem, and because they say so, it must be true. When was the last time you saw a show on TV where the father was portrayed as smart? Granted, there are a couple , but they are the exception, not the rule. This is symptomatic of our culture, and the war on boys.

amed
salt lake city, UT

This article contains a lot of propoganda and sexist remarks.

amed
salt lake city, UT

It's really disappointing that the academic achievement gap is being looked at as a "war on boys" rather than an achievement for women. People can speculate all they want about the reasoning behind men not getting the same opportunities that women have in education, but don't claim that men are being suppressed or not given the same rights to academic success. Women make up nearly 52% of the population as it is, so that could be a contributing factor to the rise in achievement.

PS since when could missionaries be interviewed while on their missions?

Maclane
Claremont, CA

Last year I was an LDS Seminary Teacher at Lone Peak and was able to interact often with these young men. They are better in a spiritual setting then they were on the court and if you saw them play- that is saying something! At first I was worried they would have big heads and a bigger ego. I couldn't have been more wrong. They were humble, kind, considerate men. They are individuals who cared about others in their class and in their school. They will succeed in making this world a better place, I have no doubt about that!

Capsaicin
Salt Lake City, UT

I would recommend that the first step taken in the "war on boys" is to feature boys not associated with ANY KIND OF SPORT. There are heroes in every area of life, not just sports.

Something to think about
Ogden, UT

I like how the DNews picks "championship" calibur schools to do these articles on. It's easy to be great when talent abounds. (Lone Peak, East, etc...)

Why not do a story on a bad, losing program? They have good kids off the field who do amazing things without the benefits of success on the field or court in this case.

They practice just as hard. They go to class and make good grades. They are just as spiritual in the area of religion. They however, have the challenge of not being as talented to address as well. They are the teams/kids who get clobbered by the loaded DI schools and yet show up again next week.

Life is much easier when you win! Stories about teams who struggle with victory are not quite as compelling as stories about those who struggle with defeat.

terra nova
Park City, UT

The real war is on families. As they fail, boys and girls are innocent casualties (as are some husbands and wives) fed to the fire burning to warm the gods of selfishness. But those cast into the fire can emerge unscathed if someone will reach out and show them the way of faith, love and truth. There are compensating blessings. There are tender mercies. There is hope.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

Poyman, I'm an over 60 white male with a great education. Circumstances put me in the job market 4 years ago and I learned that older white males are also an unprotected class. Several times, while pursuing high-level management/consulting positions, I made all the but final cuts (dozens/sometimes hundreds of applicants and I was one of 2 or 3 finalists) and each time a younger person, usually a female, was chosen. They were all certainly well qualified and will excel in the positions, but I am equally qualified. The only differences were age, gender, and color. Yes, this is limited, anecdotal evidence...but to me, it's real.

But this article is about boys. We raised three of them and we raised five girls too. Given my experience, I would say a war on boys is real, but a strong family with vigilant parents can help the boys win the war. All my boys are doing well...and my girls too...and I thanks my wife, the church and the Lord.

TimBehrend
Auckland NZ, 00

What gets me about this article isn't just the phony war on white boys. It's the way that the situation is framed and constructed by your reporter as an us vs them competition. Boys (us) are losing to girls (them) in terms of educational achievement. Men aren't competing well against women at university. This is a travesty, a tragedy. A war is on against boys that's causing this, since boys are naturally smarter than girls. If females are achieving higher results than males, that is a problem, that is a failure, those girls are only taking their education and skills into the kitchen and motherhood. Boys need to do better than girls, otherwise society is failing. Really?

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