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Published: Sunday, Feb. 2 2014 6:20 a.m. MST

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dahomes
Phoenix, AZ

Elder Shumway is serving in the greatest mission on earth. Those 20 extra pounds are probably mostly composed of the most delicious flour tortillas known to man. The people of South Texas are lucky to have such a great young man among them. He is certainly lucky to have them as well.

Y-Ask-Y?
Provo, UT

"War on boys"?

Really?

How far can fear mongering be taken before it becomes silly?

Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

I am glad that someone is recognizing the war on boys. The data is all there. It is time for support systems typically reserved for women to now be created in support of men. Women's centers and studies at our universities were and are an important step forward but the data clearly show that such support systems are now needed for men and boys.

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

My goodness!
There are a tremendous amount os sweeping generalities in this article.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

There is no "war on boys".

ER in AF
Harare, Zimbabwe, 00

@ Y, Did you not read the article? Did you look at the stats? If any group other than men were showing that much decline is such a relatively short period, there would be a hue and outcry, and the federal government would employ task-forces to combat it. But contrary to the facts it is ignored. "Guys can take care of themselves". Yeah? How is that decrease in wages going for them do ya think?

GK Willington
Salt Lake City, UT

re: southmtnman

You are right. Its all out assault on middle class, heterosexual, white men.

JonathanPDX
Portland, Oregon

@Y-Ask-Y - Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

Satan has many tools now to draw young men away from the Church and the Priesthood. What better name to give it than a "War on Boys"?

Petra
Sanpete County, UT

In a competitive society there are "winners" and " losers." If women are viewed as inferior by men, women will be the losers if men have the power and visa versa. Women are certainly still not viewed by our society as "winners" overall, as evidenced by the lack of women CEOs, women in government, in other powerful positions, the disparity between pay for women compared to the pay for men, etc. I see this as more a potential threat to the currently powerful, the men, than as a reversal of roles, or anything else.

The solution is not to resume the old status quo, but to stop playing the competition game. We need to stop seeing gender and begin seeing each individual as a person of talent and worth. We are all children of God. Knowing that on a deeper level is where we must start.

justamacguy
Manti, UT

If your a male, your the problem. If you are a white maie, just roll over and play dead. Because you are definitely the problem.

LA Mormon
West Valley, UT

War on Boys? Nope. War on the middle class jobs men used to have? Yes. Men have not changed, but society has. Corporations in America have systematically attacked the value of work for that last 35 years. The nation has devalued the work of everyone, women are making less than men on average so what good is it going to do if men or women achieve high levels of education when corporations are pushing down the value of all work. Again there is no war on men, but there is a massive war on working Americans.

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

Great Article.

483bzac
West Valley City, UT

Finally we are getting some stats on education, employment and success of boys and men vs. females. Perhaps the single biggest weapon to destroy men and boys is simple, almost intangible and indescribable: Men/boys nearly always give benefit of doubt to women/girls and young children. Seldom do we give each other that basic benefit of doubt when there is a question of honor. Guilty unless proven otherwise. Why is this so?

Old But Not Stupid
Moorpark, CA

Y-Ask/southmtn

I fled California to escape from an environment dominated by the ignorant and deceptive thinking and belief system of today's so-called "liberals."

And here I find that two of the first six comments are afflicted by this diseased "thinking" or mindless talking points. Since approximately 30% of voters self-identify as liberals, I suppose we'll have to get used to this phenomenon.

caf
Bountiful, UT

This is a great series! What wonderful young men. It is always nice to read about what is good in the world.

Paddycakes
South Jordan, UT

The war on boys has been evident and prevalent for years, just hushed up as not being politically correct to report abuses by the 'system'. It has ben documented that female teachers are more demanding and more cruel to male students than to female students. I see no hospitals for 'men' or specialties clinics with the words ...for men or 'men only' treatment centers. One sees little advertisements for prostate cancer funding prevention/cure and fund raising even though prostate cancer kills almost as many men as breast cancer kills women. There are not shelters for men when they are abused by their wives and they are too ashamed to go public or seek help.

Men are held up to ridicule and disrespect in the media, sit-coms and advertisements: they most certainly are made out to be unable to make decisions and displayed as dolts, until a female comes along and gives him proper direction and advise so that he can succeed in his decision making. Such conduct and tolerance of man-bashing is disrespectful to men and an affront to God.

Th
Tooele, UT

This same story could be written about hundreds of great kids that have played HS basketball across the state. What Lone Peak did in basketball was a tremendous accomplishment. But so many kids are equally as talented if not more when it comes to the spiritual side of life. Not trying to sound bitter, because I'm not. But I coach at an in state HS and know the caliber and spirituality of all of these kids.

Lone Peak is great at basketball. They're what everyone wants to become. We all want five D1 athletes in a starting 5. But they're no better than any other kids across the state.

Hopefully we can get a grasp on this "war on boys!"

Coolio
SLC, UT

With the amount of attention these kids from Lone Peak are getting its becoming disturbing. We get it already. Shine the light on someone else for awhile while they do their time. It's as if they are the only kids that played HS basketball and got recruited. The media is creating an expectation of these kids that when its not met in in 2-3 years these kids will have a Jake Heaps experience. Most of the state is tired of hearing of Lone Peak. All the attention they got from winning the National Championship sufficed. We don't need reporters following them into their missions as well!!!

yankees27
Heber, Utah

It's been said a lot lately, and something that I agree with. One of the hardest things to be in America in this day and age is a White Male. Women and minorities have over the course of the last few decades, been given the upper hand, and given advantages that, although deserved, have come at the expense of the white male. My own son was denied a scholarship because a minority girl, who wasn't as qualified, but because "a number" had to be met, was given it and he was passed over. Fair? No! But that is one example of the war on boys, and in particular, white males. You can call me whatever you want, but at least look before you yell, the facts are all around you if you look.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

The only segment of the population that you can openly discriminate against today are white males below the age of 40...

They are not a protected class and so they get blamed for all inequality that exists in the world... Schools will screen them out in favor of less qualified Females or minorities for acceptance into a College, Law School, or a Med School... Employers will by-pass them for promotions in favor of less qualified females and minorities... And, advertisements for products, goods, and services will often try and make this segment of the population look stupid or ridiculous in order to enhance their sales... Actors and actresses in Ads will be skewed so that there are far more minorities in them than the percentage of the population they represent. It's vogue today to disregard the candidacy of a white guy unless he is overwhelmingly more qualified and it is also vogue today to make the white guy look stupid...

I enjoy these articles and I burst with pride when I read about the accomplishments of these young men... It makes you feel good... Big Kudos to the families of these young men who helped raise them

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