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Published: Sunday, Feb. 2 2014 5:12 p.m. MST

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2 bit
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Finally I agree with Roland Kayser on something (his first comment of the day).

I have no doubt things will devolve into partisan sniping and just complaining only about the transgressions of the OTHER side eventually... but I'm glad to see that it at least got off on the right foot.

The problem is... the partisan-practice of letting our OWN guy get away with anything, but complaining bitterly ONLY when the other side does it.

We can now look at Bush in retrospective (and I think many Conservatives now see his mistakes). The question is... how long will it take for Progressives to see and acknowledge Obama's mistakes?

Will it have to wait till it's too late and he's out of office (like with Bush)? Or are they smart enough to see it earlier than that? And even if they see it... will they just play the usual partisan games with everything?

Now on reading the rest of the comments.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

The thing is that it isn't necessarily the executive orders that are the most damaging to the US economy. Through the Executive office the President can influence regulation in their creation and their enforcement. This can be done without an executive order.

For example, a few years ago it was reported that in 1 month Obama and his administration added enough regulations that $9 billion was being sucked out of the economy just to meet the regulations.

1covey
Salt Lake City, UT

It is a temptation for a strong personality to bypass opposition, even when it avoids due Governmental process such as the Congress of the United States, the Roman Senate, the Bundestag, etc.. History will judge whether we get a Lincoln, a Caesar, or a Hitler. In any event, the danger is in the precedent. BTW, some of the figures above are in disagreement.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

The Person who issued the most executive orders was FDR, which included concentration camps. Putting Japanese Americans in concentration camps. I feel concentration camps will be coming again.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00
The Person who issued the most executive orders was FDR, which included concentration camps. Putting Japanese Americans in concentration camps. I feel concentration camps will be coming again.

12:23 p.m. Feb. 3, 2014

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If so, it will be by those who are intolerant or disagree with others.

With the exception of FDR during WWII,
History has shown them to be mostly from the far-right-wing.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Well, given the obstructionist ideological partisan bought and paid for congress that we now suffer with, this is one of a very few times when I believe that the "end justifies the means".

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Bush may have overused his Executive Orders too... but in the words of Hillary Clinton... "What the HECK does that matter at this point"??

I don't remember the nature of Bush's executive orders. But it's not the count that's important (IMO). It's the NATURE of the executive orders.

-IF they are for something urgent and acute and not legislating... that's what Executive Orders are for.
-IF it's not legislation, and it's something that's in the Executive branch's purview (not Congresses)... that's what the executive order is for.
-IF it's an emergency that needs emergency-action before Congress will has time to address it... that's what the executive order is for.

But it's NOT for one man to pass his agenda over the protests of Congress (even if they are just obstructing).

The Founding Fathers didn't want that. They wanted the Executive Branch to have to work and compromise with Congress... not have power to run over them with un-checked power for one man to overrule and legislate over Congressional objections or just disregard or wipe aside their laws with Executive-Fiat power.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Reagan's executive orders? Good.
Obama's executive orders? Bad.

Got it.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

LDS Liberal: "If so, it will be by those who are intolerant or disagree with others"

Just curious, but whose definition of "intolerant" would be used? Which side of the arguments gets interred?

Seems to me that they way the courts are so rapidly "legislating" changes in morality, the right are not the ones to worry about.....

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