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Published: Sunday, Feb. 2 2014 5:12 p.m. MST

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Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

There's an easy way to solve this: Republicans need to condemn Republican president when they overreach, and Democrats need to do the same with Democratic presidents. We don't do that, we complain about the other guy, but keep our mouths shut when our guy does it.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

"Is Obama overreaching with executive orders?"

Uh...is this a trick question? OK, I'll bite. YES!

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

“When a president can pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore, he is no longer a president.”

Please, Mr Cruz. Tell us when was the last time that you feel we had a president?

I am not defending Obama or executive orders, but they have been going on since presidents were elected. Saint Ronald used them quite often.

Let me guess. That was different.

micawber
Centerville, UT

I appreciate it when the Deseret News supplies opposing viewpoints on an issue in its opinion section. Thanks.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Facts don't seem to be a part of this discussion, just I hat Obama

Executive Orders
Jimmy Carter Total 320

Ronald Reagan
Total 381

George Bush
Total 166

William J. Clinton
Total 364

George W. Bush
Total 291


Barack Obama
Total 168

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...Cynical power-grabbing is a bipartisan exercise...".

As in...

It's ok when our elected cynical power-grabbers cynically grab power...

However...

It's not ok when their elected cynical power-grabbers cynically grab power...

Exactly.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Facts don't seem to be a part of this discussion, just I hate Obama.

=======

Agreed,
Their hatred blurrs and ignores, truth, facts and all reality.

Thanks for the truth and evidence,
but their hatred runs deeper than all facts and reality combined.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Way to solve this? Just pass a constitutional amendment stating the president is not allowed to issue executive orders. Problem solved. Make it retroactive to say 25 years ago. That way we can get rid of the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument, and congress can create a national monument that makes sense. Much smaller.

Obama may have issued fewer executive orders but remember, he is early in is second term. So Pragmatistforlife's comparison is not accurate. W. Bush's come out to 145.5 a term. Obama has beaten that by over 20.

Not all Executive Orders issued by the president are bad ones. Some are good.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama is using executive orders at the lowest per year rate of any President in over a century. (FDR highest, George W. Bush was 2nd lowest).

thunderbolt7
DUTCH JOHN, UT

Obama can raise the minimum wage (for Government workers) as he pleases because he does not need to answer to a Board of Directors or Shareholders. When you are the Imperial Ruler you answer to no one.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

My executive orders are better than your executive orders. Mine are sensible and moderate. Yours are outrageous and unconstitutional. And my dad can beat up your dad, too. So there.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Flashback;

GWB 173 first term
BHO 168 first 5 years.

Even if Obama wound up with some more than GWB, which it doesn't look like, it still wouldn't be out of line with history.

nonceleb
Salt Lake City, UT

@Flashback. Grand Staircase Escalante was not an executive order. It was a power granted to the president to change federal land designation (from BLM, National Forest, and other federal land into a National Monument or National Park) under the Antiquities Act of 1906, passed by Congress under a Republican President, Theodore Roosevelt.

the truth
Holladay, UT

Its NOT the number of orders,

It is the quality of the orders.

It is what he is ordering. From changing laws, to completely disregarding passed laws.

Don't fall in the deception of counts.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

And truth would you like to enlighten us on what the GWB orders were..bet you don't even know.

Ranch
Here, UT

Don't kid yourself, if Obama said we need air to breath the Republicans would say we don't.

Mountanman
Victor, ID

What if the president pays no attention to the constitution that limits his powers? We have that problem in the US with Obama so much so that even the SCOTUS has promised to consider this problem and rule on the question. But given the ridiculous rulings (Obamacare is a tax) in the recent past, I doubt the high court will reign him in. He is totally unaccountable, can do whatever he wants, spends money with no restrictions, change laws at his discretion and make congress irrelevant with no repercussions; classic government out of control!

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

We already have a "Constitutional Amendment" that prohibits the President from signing executive orders. It's right there in the Constitution where every American can read it. Article I, Section 1: "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."

An executive order is legislation. It is a new law (order). The President cannot legislate. He is forbidden to legislate. Our Constitutional expert, Barrack Obama, is an expert on what he would like the Constitution to say, not on what it does say. He took an oath of office where he told us that he would defend and uphold the Constitution. He lied. Anyone who backs his "authority" to legislate via executive orders also backs his abuse of the Constitution.

The Constitution protects the people from an over-reaching government. Too many people join with Obama in tromping on the graves of those who paid the ultimate price.

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

When George W. Bush pulled stuff, at least he typically got the Democrats in on it first. Obama's been pushing for his own agenda since day one, labeling anyone who doesn't think the same way he does as "obstructionist", "backwards" or whatever other labels.

If an analogy to breathing is desireable, he's among those trying to tax the air, while people won't listen to Republicans explain why taxing air is a bad idea.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@mike richards

"The Constitution protects the people from an over-reaching government. Too many people join with Obama in tromping on the graves of those who paid the ultimate price."

So then you condemn both the bushes and reagan who all issued as many or more such orders?

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