Published: Friday, Jan. 31 2014 12:00 a.m. MST
Maybe they were just tired of being pushed around.
@Frank Overfelt;"...when the call goes out to be civil,
apparently it only applies to those who support marriage between a man and a
woman."Guess what Frank. Rallying to deny marriage to couples
you disapprove of is not "civil" in the first place. During the rally,
LGBT were called evil among other things. That is not "civil".
May be there wasn't any ushers to maintain order.
Darkness cannot tolerate light which exposes the sin. It has to shout it down.
The diversity people (the Left) cannot tolerate a diversity of opinions.
The left demands civility but gives little or none.
The entire premise of your argument is that gay people and their desire to love,
commit to, and marry another person is a THREAT to children and families. You
call them a THREAT to sweet innocent children like murderers, pedophiles,
kidnappers, child pornographers, and drug dealers. That is the most insulting,
uncivil thing I can think of. I am a good, moral, upstanding citizen of this
state. I am not a threat to children. When the entire premise of
your argument is based on insult and incivility, you don't get to pretend
you hold the moral high ground when it comes to being "civil".
Two thoughts , first by your own acknowledgement the majority of the lgbt
supporters in atttendance were civil and this was the act of two people not an
entire community. Second calling others evil, claiming they are a threat to
children and society and pushing for laws that treat them as less then fully
human is not civil.
I guess decades of oppression, ridicule and abuse has left some people grumpy.
Maybe it's because one side uses "logic", and the other uses
"emotion". The emotional side will eventually lash out, it's
human nature. That's what strong emotion does to us. Logic doesn't
lead you to lash out, it leads you to discuss it on a civil and hopefully
constructive level with anybody who will listen (but you don't feel that
same emotional response and the need to prevail at all costs).It's the underdog syndrome. When it feels like the majority's
against you... you can get frustrated and upset... you feel like you must do
something more, and take it up a notch or two, it's easy to lose control
and lose patience and lash out.But that's rarely productive.
Be patient and keep getting the message out there, without violence, threats,
rude outbursts, demands you know can't be met, and a militant approach...
and you will get more and more people on your side and win in the end. But
being offensive, abrasive and demanding, doesn't help.Use
honey, not vinegar.
First of all, EVERYONE (Gay and Straight) supports "traditional
marriage." If anyone of my single Straight friends finds a compatible person
of the opposite sex to get "traditionally married" to and settle down
with, NO ONE will me happier than I. The fact that I support marriage equality
for law-abiding, taxpaying Gay couples doesn't mean I'm somehow
against "traditional marriage" for Straight couples. As for
the people who oppose allowing Gay couples to marry, perhaps you should just TRY
putting yourself in their shoes. Suppose you, as a taxpayer, were forced to help
subsidize all the legal benefits and protections of marriage, while at the same
time being denied the right to participate in that same institution. Would you
find it just a BIT irritating? Remember: It's not Gay people telling
Straight people that they should be allowed to marry the person they love.
Frankly there is simply NO constitutional justification for this double
Yea, sure, let's excuse boorish behavior because the homosexuals are tired
of being "pushed around". I guess some people have forgotten their
manners, if they were ever taught any in the first place.
Rule of thumb: whoever in a political argument feels like they're being
ignored or having their freedoms trampled on, are going to be the more annoyed
side and prone to yelling. Remember when Tea Partiers were shouting down
Congressmen and Senators at town halls that one summer when it came to
healthcare reform because they think (correctly or not) that their rights would
be violated by the bill? It's kinda like that.
Remember how outraged the media and Democrats got when some Congressman shouted
to Obama "you lie" at the state of the union speech? And that was
before the big lie of Obamacare came to light. Sometimes the truth is not
politically correct. Especially when said by a Republican or conservative.
Jesus said, ......the truth shall make you free.Democrats say the truth
shall set the IRS on you.
@RanchI was at the traditional marriage rally. I never heard anyone
say LGBT was evil.What I did hear, was defense for an existing
lawa man who had same sex attraction say he is better off being back with
his wife and children than in a homosexual relationship.a man raised by a
lesbian couple talk about wishing he had a relationship with a father.All I heard was positive talk about the benefits of a family consisting of a
father (male) and mother (female) as parents to children.
Re: "Maybe they were just tired of being pushed around."And
they show it by pushing people around that only treated them with respect and
dignity.Yeah, that about sums up the LGBT activist agenda.
Opponents of marriage equality are fooling themselves, the basis of their
reasons for denying others the right to marriage is bigotry at its core. No
amount of "friendly" letters published in the DesNews can erase that.
In fact, years from now, the DesNews archives will no doubt be viewed as a
treasure trove of articles justifying discrimination. Indeed, propaganda may
have the desired affect on some individuals at the time but it only serves to
provide disdain as time moves forward. Chalk this up as another
mistake made by my fellow Church members for which it'll take years and
years to recover from the damage.
The problem with incivility is that "some" begets more. This
conversation is going down the road traveled by every sibling group in
history..."who started it" is the name of the game. Why can't we
all be good parents here and just admit that we don't care who started it,
we just need to stop it.PS. Anyone attesting that groups on the
right have not shown boorish and childish behavior, please cast the first
You still have not demonstrated how you or your marriage is harmed by your gay
neighbors. It's going to happen, your marriage will be fine and you
won't notice a thing. No one will force you to enter a same sex marriage
and the sun will come up tomorrow. Continue to live your lives as best you can,
helping others when you can, and then you can say, "I put away selfish
things and I truly am free and I can concentrate on things I know will truly
bring me happiness."
@SpydermanOne thing that I didn't hear from any of the supposed
benefits were valid reasons why gay people shouldn't be married. Sure a
gay man feels he is better off with his wife. Anyone ask him the reasons?
Maybe it is so he can be good with his Church. Or maybe he was threatened by
his wife or the state that he wouldn't be able to see his children.
Whatever the reason he is with his wife instead of a husband is his. No reason
to deny marriage to gay couples. One man who wishes he had a
relationship with his dad. Great, does that mean his lesbian parents were not
good parents? Would he have had a relationship with his dad if he wasn't
raised by lesbians? Or would he have been worse off because he would have been
raised by a single mother? Grass is always greener on the other side until that
is where you are living. None of what this rally proves why Gays
should be banned from marriage.
Once again, everybody is missing the issue. The issue isn't the
right for gay people to get married. The issue is what does the government
recognize as marriage.
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