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Published: Thursday, Jan. 30 2014 5:40 p.m. MST

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Hoosier87
American Fork, UT

Just a suggestion (from a true blue BYU fan)...

Maybe you could recruit a few more than 2 kids from the state of Utah. I thought the UofU was bad with their numbers, but they look super aggressive compared to BYU.

When Anderson was at Utah State, his admitted goal was to recruit the State of Utah heavily - and look how it worked out for him.

Of course I love the National reach of BYU, but I for one would like to see more Utah kids on the roster, at least more than 2!

localblue
Sandy, UT

@Hooser87 I'm not from Utah and don't spend too much time there but I wholeheartedly agree with you. I think it's a mistake for a team to not recruit heavily among its local population, mainly because the effort spent locally is much more effective than going national or international, not to mention there are many strong prospects in Utah. BYU should be the destination of choice for local kids, and that will take commitment from the coaches to recruit from Utah, which seems to be lacking (at least in the way they announce their numbers).

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

Bronco would rather have a walk-on than a four star. I am guessing that he has several local players scheduled for walk-on spots with later scholarships promised.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Currently byu has the highest average stars for the 2014 class of anyone in the state, we'll see if that holds true through signing day. It would be the first time in five years byu has had the best rated recruiting class in the state. In fact, byu's best year of the last 4 in recruiting is still not as good as Utah's worst year of the last 4. Looks like maybe gets the better year this year.

And yes, average stars of a team says a lot. Do stars guarantee wins? No, but neither do fast players, strong players, practicing, lifting weights, good coaching, watching game film, or even scoring lots of points.

But even though all these things don't guarantee wins, they matter. Just as talent level of a team, which on AVERAGE is quite accurate based on star ratings.

David
Centerville, UT

I agree with earlier posts, I feel quite concerned that BYU has not won the Utah recruiting effort in more cases and for more positions. It doesn't seem to bode well when Bronco is reporting that only 2 recruits are from the home state. Something is definitely wrong with that.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

How many years now have we heard the same thing at this time of year?I am beginning to think that we are stuck in the Mendenhall era where we hear this type of hype each year and the season looks like something else in reality.

cork
Murray, UT

And the snake oil sales begin.... The reason only 2 from Utah is that, contrary to the locals myopic belief, there aren't many decent to good players from here at the moment. Utah can have all they want for now.

Next up - Dick Harmon and how everything is going so well and how BYU is going to clean up on the field this year, yada yada yada. This is one really broken record. Maybe every program and fan base gets the same treatment, but for me, enough is enough. No more tickets. Somebody is most welcome to take mine. If the team figures out how to beat anybody and Anae figures out how to call plays, I'll watch on tv so I don't waste the time and money and aggravation of an expensive pilgrimage to Provo.

Not a fair weather fan; just one that finally has had enough with a program going nowhere. I applaud the ethics and great kids in the program and good leaders but I also want to see a tough nosed-winning effort each week.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Last year people were complaining that Bronco recruits too much in Utah. Slow white guys, I believe is the connotation.

I think Chris B's comments are more on the spot. Is there a 4 or 5-star QB in Utah this year? Utah is a relatively small state. A national recruiting program is something that BYU can and should do. There are more 4-5 star players in Texas and California than there are players in Utah.

BYU aspires to be a national program. They need to recruit nationally.

shorts
Payson, UT

RE :Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree with what you said and I to am shocked. Utah has better players and if BYU wants to compete they need better players. The more stars a player has the better chance they will be better in college. Yes their are exceptions but as a rule you have a better chance of having a 5 star being great then a 2 star.

AZguy
Phoenix, AZ

I disagree that BYU needs more Utah players on the team. There is already 1/3 of the team from Utah. If BYU is going to play with national significance, they need to recruit nationally. Certainly go after the best recruits from Utah, but it is a must (IMHO) that BYU continue the pipeline from CA, the islands, and reestablish a presence in Texas. Secondarily, I think BYU should continue to hit the rest of the West hard, and go for the nationwide signings.

I still think BYU should lure Lance Anderson from Stanford to be the DC and recruiting coordinator. He does wonders for recruiting through the academic process at Stanford and I think he could do the same for BYU and then take over for Mendenhall in 10 years. But, I say that on about 25% of my posts, so sorry for the rant.

CodyCougar
Madison, SD

The pool of potential recruits in the state of Utah narrows considerably when factoring for academic standards. If Coach Mendenhall feels like only 2 Utah players can help our team, I'm okay with that. Local people need to remember being a "Utah" school is least significant of what BYU is. It is a national school drawing high-end kids, not just serving local kids. I am not okay with the losses to Virginia, Utah, San Jose State... win-able games. That's on the coaching staff and everyone needs to step up.

custer
Boise, ID

This time of year, EVERY head coach is optimistic about the new recruits. Have you ever heard a head coach say that this year's new recruits aren't that good?! Same thing during spring and summer. EVERY coach says the same thing: "This team has the potential to be a very good team." The truth is nobody knows how good a team will be until the season starts.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@shorts and BlueHusky,

Thanks for acknowledging you agree. I admit I go over the top in some posts, but in recruiting I think I've been very consistent. Many fans(usually byu) on these boards tell me over and over that "stars don't mean a thing" or "recruiting is subjective so ratings don't mean anything" or "stars don't guarantee anything" or "how did byu beat texas with lower stars"

I've never once said stars guarantee win. I've never once said every rating is correct. I've just said on average rating services get it right and an average for a team or recruiting class says a TON about the talent of that team. And yes, its better to have better players.

Another one byu fans like to point out is "Boise state has been great with average players" as if that discredits anything I've said. Coaches matter, of course they do. Can a good coach with average players beat an average(or even good coach) with great players? Of course.

But why wouldn't every team want as good of a coach AND as good of players they can get?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

One more comment on recruiting and what one person pointed out to me. More 3 stars have been drafted in the NFL than 5 stars. And yes, I believe that is a correct fact. Does that discredit the "higher stars are usually better" concept? Absolutely NOT

Rating services give out significantly more 3 stars than 4 stars and significantly more 4 stars than 5 stars. Any given 5 star has the highest chance of being drafted compared to 4's and 3's. And 4's on average have a higher chance of being drafted than 3's. This has been seen and proven.

It's like saying "there have been more people under 7 feet tall play in the NBA than people over 7 feet tall" and incorrectly concluding that an average 6 foot guy is more likely to play in the NBA than a 7 foot 6 inch guy.

PRjeff
Chandler, AZ

What's the big concern about getting more recruits from Utah? Last time I looked, that's not our campus. The world is our campus. Let's find the best players wherever they are. Ziggy certainly didn't have a Utah address.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Wow! A 6'8" Kaffusi is switching from the D-Line to outside linebaker? At that height? That's a very interesting switch.

Back Talk
Federal Way, WA

Wow! I cant belief Chris B said something positive about BYU. Maybe this is a different Chris B.

Anyway, the reason BYU is not signing more Utah players is becuase they lost the recruiting battle on all of the good ones. So now they try to sound positive by saying they are recruiting nationally.

I am surprised by what Chris said in that BYU has a decently rated class. Everything I have read said that things were pretty average. Lets hope it is good and that it gets better by keeping everyone theyhave and adding a couple of surprises.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Intersting timing with three Y football stories, on consecutive days in January, what with etters for 2014 season ticket renewals having gone out.

Tenn12
Orem, UT

Contrary to what some posters are saying, it IS very important to recruit Utah. You want to have a home state connection. There are PLENTY of local players contributing to other division one programs. BYU has consistently recruited poorly and missed on top utah players due to lack of effort and other inexcusable reasons. The caliber of football is improving dramatically in utah and more and more division one caliber athletes are available and it is very concerning that they only have two commits from the state thus far.

peacemaker
Provo, UT

A noticeable weakness in red zone play: no tight end to make critical first down or touchdowns. Is the talent there? How about a great tight end coach and recruiter? Room for a real step forward.

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