The parents chose to go on the Dr. Phil show. The parents chose to use Dr.
Phil's money to enroll their troubled teenager in a facility close to home.
Now the parents want to sue everyone involved?...smells like
they're just going after deep pockets to me...
Ender, you may be right, although if the girl's arm was actually broken
(particularly if it really is as bad as their lawyer makes it sound- which is
unlikely, based on the understanding that lawyers always do all they can to
maximize the sound of the damages caused to their clients), there might be a
basis to ask why that happened. If the staff of the facility used excessive
force or brutality to induce the girl to behave as they desired, then the girl
has a case.Oftimes however, people will harm themselves in the hope of
blaming it on others, or exaggerate injuries, or even fabricate stories to
incriminate those they want vengeance against; so those are also possibilities.
The girl will have a large burden to prove causality, among other things. So it sounds like the parents were more interested in getting someone else to
pay for their daughter's treatment than they were in making certain the
treatment she got was really appropriate for her particular problem. May the
It seems like the parents weren't really parents to the girl and Dr Phil
hit it right on the head. He didn't go out on the street and bring this
girl in. Anyone who has watched more that a couple of shows knows that this
type of treatment is what he does. If they had not kept the girl inside the
facility and she went out and was harmed they would have sued big time.
Facilities like this one and others for drugs and mental problems always start
out with Locked gates. It is normal not unusual. LIke was said, if the care
taker did break her arm like she says, then they can sue for that, but nothing
else. The started the whole process and now they are crying about it. Sorry
for the arm, but the girl really needs some parents to guide her, not enable
Are these parents claiming they did not have the right to pull their daughter
from this facility? Really? That she was not sent to this facility with their
permission? There is a good chance excessive force was used, or
that a freak accident did happen. Completely possible. Accidents do happen,
and if an accident did happen, the girl needs to be compensated for that
accident. But servitude? Really? Give me a break. Sounds like
parents that always point the finger somewhere elsewhere, and spend little time
reflecting or owning the problems themselves. Good people do have out of
control kids from time to time…. but they don't sue the people who
try to help… even if it goes wrong. The ownership of what goes on with
that child is theirs…. and no one else's.
Why don't people take responsibility!! They chose to go on the Dr. Phil
Why it is obviously NOT the parents' fault:*How were they
supposed to know that their daughter would actually admit to those things on
TV?*Dr. Phil is warm and fuzzy to every other guest except their
daughter*Dr. Phil forced the girl into the correction facility, and
offered to pay for it as part of his devious scheme to imprison her and force
her into "servitude"*The parents tried to take the girl home at
the first sign of mistreatment/"servitude" but were not allowed to do
so*Because their little princess shouldn't have to obey others if she
doesn't feel like it. Obviously she has a track record of making good
choices for herself, so the guards should cut her some slack.Okay,
rant over. If the arm was broken, then the facility should pay for medical
bills. If permanent damage was actually done, maybe some degree of compensation.
However, the parents' approach to sue anyone and everyone involved looks a
little too suspicious to me to accept this at face value.
I wonder if the "adult men" having sex with a 15 year old are under
investigation by police, Maybe they should be made to pay for her problems.
Happiest day in the deadbeat's life is when they can make what is called in
the law a "colorable claim" of injury against a deep pocket. Nothing is
easier than to feign righteous indignation (through the mouth of a lawyer who
will get 40% of the take). But don't blame him, his DUTY is the represent
his client zealously within the bounds of the law. On the other side, is it any
wonder that insurance companies don't roll over and play dead, and have the
motto: "Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute?"
I truly am sorry to say, but these parents sound a little like the
Thenardier's from Les Miserables: Out to blame everyone else but those to
whom the blame actually belongs.
DR. Phil is absolutely annoying, but that is not a crime. I aggree wtih WRK,
these parents seem to be enablers like the Thenardier's. Maybe the
daughter acted up at the facility and in trying to get her under control she got
injured. Happens to people all the time when they act up.Maybe Dr.
Phil ought to sue them to get their appearance fee back that he paid them.I saw Bain Capital on the list. Maybe they will also sue Mitt Romney
even though he wasn't involved with Bain. But he started it. They are
looking for a pay day. The judge ought to dismiss with prejudice.
A lot of judgemental comments about the parents. I guess when you have perfect
children (or so you think), it's easy to be that way.
It's about time. Dr. Phil has been referring kids to KNOWN abusive programs
in Utah for years, and likely getting a kick back. About time! These programs
are EXTREMELY abusive, my brother died because of the abuse he endured and so
have countless other children. No child deserves abuse, all children deserve
protection and the same human rights as anyone else.
I would rather have my teenage daughter get her arm broken from being pulled out
of a bed without an adult man in the bed with her. This girl will be a big mess
her whole life and she can thank her parents.
Dr. Phil is TV entertainment, not a treatment program. Were they promised a
compliment? Although I have never watched it, it is apparently based on
voluntary participation and the family had some idea of what can happen in
reality TV. If the family is concerned about embarrassing themselves and their
daughter, wait until a deposition or court appearance to find out what public
embarrassment really is. For their own sake, the lawsuit should be dismissed
As parents we spend a lot of time asking “WHY” our children did so
and so, e.g., Why did you hit your brother, Why did you not do your homework,
etc. There is not a lot of benefit from this approach, and you likely recognize
the amount of frustration that you feel with the million “I don’t
know” replies you get to your ‘Why” questions. While your intentions are to teach and correct, the messages that your
children are receiving can be quite different than the ones you are sending: 1.I can never make my parent(s) happy.2.My parent(s) do not like
me or anything I do.3.I am only acceptable when I do things a certain
way.4.My parent(s) are trying to control me.5.It seems my parent(s)
are more invested in this than I am, e.g. meaning it is more important to mom or
dad than the child.If the child continues to believe any of the
above messages, then the process breaks down. Good parents understand that they
are in the business of training a belief system that if healthy, will have the
child learn to take greater responsibility
There is a high probability the girl's parents never set boundaries for
her. Now she is being held accountable and all she knows how to do is be angry,
frustrated and rebel. Dr. Phil is know for being confrontational. That is his
style. Deal with it instead of filing a lawsuit.
I have great respect for the art of psychology in our society. But personally,
I question the motives of anyone who uses such skills as an avenue to fame and
fortune. I'm not saying its bad to make money, or to become famous, but
those professions which are devoted to the direct care of individuals - namely
medical and sociological, can become compromised when notoriety is pursued and
or achieved.What I am saying is that I will gladly visit my family
doctor or undergo psychological evaluation - in private. I would never subject
my well being to the care of someone needing to maintain ratings in the public
sector.I'm sorry that this family had a bad experience, but
anything they due at this point will only serve to turn the spotlight back to
the favor of Dr. Phill.
Seems to me the Meyers better be prepared for the potential of a gigantic libel
suit from the Dr. Phil Organization, Bain Capital, CRC Health Group, Aspen
Educational Group, Island View Academy in Syracuse and a teacher at the academy.
More power to the family.Dr. Phil's show is nothing more than
sensationalistic entertainment.Does he really help those who appear
on his show?In my humble opinion: about as much as any other
"reality tv" program.
First their child was involved in dangerous sexual situations with adults &
apparently they could not change their daughters behavior so they went to Dr.
Phil did he think that they the parents & their daughter would get high five
on his show?Then they the parents had to sign something to get the
care Dr. Phil offered to help them with locally, did they bother to check up on
the place before they signed their daughter in? Usually these places have a lot
of paperwork for parents so that they understand the procedures that will be
used & how freedoms will be restricted, how privileges will be earned, how
parents can aid in the process.If the staff was using excessive
force or broke her arm while she was following the rules then they have a leg to
stand on with the facility, otherwise they are showing the daughter she an go
back to doing as she pleases, watch out society!
I think this bothers me because I have a close family member currently involved
in one of these programs due to their actions becoming a legal issue so it was
court ordered, it appears this behavior is rooted in issues from years earlier
with an absentee parent who is no longer a factor. The program outlines how they
work, the expectations, amount of supervision, visit rules, contracts to follow
said rules wether at the facility or off the grounds, how counseling will work
first individual & group at the home, then progressing into family first
with parents & child & so on. I have watched this poor kid
that was so defiant & dangerous to herself & others go from defiant to
scared to improving greatly! She is now doing extremely well in school making up
credits for when she was failing miserably, being polite, dressing modestly
without complaint, & thrilled to see family members she was so angry with
all the time. This turnaround was not overnight, she had to spend about 4 months
away from home messing up losing privileges left & right at first having
awful court dates. About 3 months ago she & turned that corner. She is
still full of life & really happy!
Phil mcgraw is looking out for .... phil. He espouses that these treatment
facilities are the best of the best. Every one and everybody he mentions or
refers to ... are the best of the best. He has representatives from these
places in the audience and they get their 2 minutes of blurbing. don't
know if you've noticed but they all say the same things about their
programs. Best of the Best. I truly doubt mr mcgraw has been to any of these
places and done any thorough review of what happens. Nope, don't believe
it. There is lots of money in the psychology game and unfortunately
there's one guy who wiggled his way into it. ... at the expense of many
broken families and individuals. His spiel is formulaic, predictable and
unimaginative and often dangerous (per the lawsuit noted here. And the list
could go on and on. oh, and by the way, This ain't the first rodeo
I've been to either. Pretty apt description ... rodeo.okay -
that's my 2 bits - could write a book
Anyone who watches Dr Phil knows that he is blunt and direct and doesn't
suffer fools gladly. Why anyone would go on tv to air their problems is beyond
me, but they had plenty of chances not to do it. He didn't call them up and
say, "I hear you have a promiscuous teenager, come on my show and let me
publicly embarrass you."They initiated the contact. They chose to
appear on tv with him, knowing he doesn't pull punches when trying to get
to the heart of a problem. Now they're embarrassed? Good grief.He
offered to pay for therapy, and let me tell you, these facilities are not cheap.
Yet again they had the choice, and also the responsibility to check out the
place, get references, ask their doctors for recommendations, and so on.We
don't have enough information about what happened to the girl to judge
whose fault it was that her arm was injured. But it sure isn't Dr
Phil's.I think some lawyer and these parents are going for the big
bucks. Sadly, the girl will lose.
If a medical doctor makes an error it's not the parents fault for going to
that doctor. He places himself as health care family repairer guide and also
needs to take responsibility when his council goes terribly wrong. Further
it's a crime for an adult to sleep with a minor. He said they would help
them, they didn't. What made that place chosen? it's not okay to break
someone's arm for not obeying you. The 15 year old didn't chose to be
there. She can not sign a waiver to be on a show. She is a minor. Instead of
protecting her from being sexually abused by adults near her she was sent to a
place that physically abused her and probably more. Why is unbelievable doc phil
would need to be accountable. It is not okay to entertain at the expense of
vulnerable people. It's not okay to pretend to be an expert. I think the
suit may make people think twice about going on, realizing it doesn't
always equate to getting help in exchange of embarrassment.
You know... It cracks me up.. .they wanted help with their
"out-of-control" daughter... It never ceases to amaze me that they ask
for help, they get it, and just because they don't like what it takes to be
a "real parent" they are now looking to make some easy money out of the
situation. They should be sent to the facility to learn how to be actual
Sounds like the parents should be sued for prostituting their child on media,
causing her issues to be publicly known, putting her at risk, not properly
investigating the school into which they put her. These parents, her legal
guardians, are once again passing responsibility onto others, when they should
be the ones taking the blame and paying the lawsuit.