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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 28 2014 8:20 p.m. MST

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Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ ciokenoo

You did. 0-2.

@ RealBlue

I hope that you really don't believe that the new playoff system was designed to give everyone a fair shot...

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Is Utah glad they joined the PAC 12? Let's put it this way. Instead of going to Rice-Eccles to endure a boring game vs. UNLV or New Mexico which means absolutely nothing, even (especially) when the Utes win by 50 or so, we now have 6 incredibly good games at home as well as 6 tough games on the road.

You build the program by playing tough quality opponents. Not feasting on the likes of Idaho, Idaho State, Hawaii, and New Mexico State. BYU fans (I mean byu "fans". Sorry, duckhunter.) should be outraged at their pathetic schedule. But then, that's probably what many byu fans want: To go 10-2 against lower WAC-type competition in order to fool the east coast sportswriters at the end of the year who look at their record and vote them #25. Pure fools gold.

I'll take the real gold any day.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

Ole Ball coach...

You are simply wrong... Perhaps you can show us documentation to back up your claim that founding members of the MWC don't want BYU back??? I can show you documentation that UNLV has been very interested in having BYU return... In fact there is one article about a year ago that claims that Colorado State and New Mexico wanted to form a new conference that included AF and BYU... I can also show you the UNLV's AD publicly talking about a hope that BYU would return and that article was about 8 months ago...

Having said that I don't believe that the Leadership of BYU wants to give up what they have created unless it would be a favorable move to a Power Conference...

It's easy to come on here and post opinions as though they are facts... Maybe some readers don't check them out, I do. I can back my statements up (in fact you can easily find these articles yourself on the Net, but If you need help, I'll be happy to get you the URLs.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Duckhunter,

"utah on the otherhand has no standards, or at least very little in the way of standards. It shows us that all of the time and you know what? That is fine, they have to conform to the lack of standards that a secular institution must have."

Secular schools, while not religiously owned, certainly do have standards. Indeed there are some religiously owned schools that are very secular. Utah has team rules and when not followed players are disciplined or released from the team. Utah chooses not to humiliate the player in public when that can be avoided. It is simply called breaking team rules.

The university itself has a code of conduct that goes well beyond just following the law. A lot of that code reflects the same rules and values as those at private schools.

I would also refer you to the Lowell Bennion Community Service Center at the U. It is operated by the U and is student driven. It is not run by the LDS Institute although they coordinate student service projects. This great service center provides many volunteers and service work to the community and State at no cost.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@poyman

ole ball coach isn't interested in the facts, it is the utah "fan" fantasy that absolutely NO ONE wants to be affiliated with BYU in anyway. They have tried incredibly hard o convince themselves that no conference could ever want them, in fact they want you to believe that ALL conferences actively seek to exclude them, that no other schools would ever even want to play BYU, in fact in the utah "fan" fantasy land all schools and conferences are united in their disdain for BYU, all it stands for, the church that sponsors it, the fans that follow it, the athletes that play for it, and anyone that has even the slightest connection to it. Ironically enough those fantasies are even shared by actually LDS that are utah "fans". Even they share that level of hate for one of the most important institutions of the faith they belong to. It is an absolutely fascinating thing to witness but I don't have a real explanation for it. It is something they will one day have to rectify in themselves.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Duckhunter,
Duckhunter,

"Ironically enough those fantasies are even shared by actually LDS that are utah "fans". Even they share that level of hate for one of the most important institutions of the faith they belong to. "

Really? I have been a lifelong active LDS church member and I can honestly say that I have never met or known another active LDS church member that while also a Utah fan, hated or despised BYU. And that covers 60+ years.

I believe your comments regarding the importance of BYU to the church are over stated. It is a great school and I have a masters degree from BYU. It is still a school. Most members of the church that live outside the U.S. which now out number those within the U.S. don't pay any attention to BYU.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@dutchman

Uh....you obviously read the comments on these boards from LDS utah "fans" with an extremely biased eye. Open them up and pay some attention.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Duckhunter,

"Uh....you obviously read the comments on these boards from LDS utah "fans" with an extremely biased eye. Open them up and pay some attention."

I have but how do you know they are even active LDS church members? Obviously people who have issues with the LDS church are very likely to have issues with BYU. Again, I personally have never known an active LDS church member who was also a Utah fan that carried any animosity toward BYU.

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