Man crush over common sense. So many people should be owners and coaches.
I know this won't be posted. But after posting twice and having both
rejected I am having second thoughts. There are here some very rude comments
here about Jimmer. I did not see much civil dialogue here. I am on his side and
trying to speak up for him. Count this as my last comment..
As a Jazz fan, I would take Jimmer in a heart beat. He is better than our two
back up guards now! As a former player, it is very hard to come off the bench
and play 4 minutes at a time and get in the flow of things. Let jimmer have a
chance and we will find out if he is any good or not.
"A source close to the Jazz says they wouldn’t have picked him even if
he had been available with the 12th pick."Yeah, nobody has a
keener eye for talent than the Utah Jazz.
So if the "Story won't change for Jimmer Fredette," why keep
writing stories about Jimmer Fredette?Time to move on, local media.
The Deseret News needs to retract part of this story. When the Kings come to DC
the fans cheer when Jimmer enters the game, and you will hear chants of "We
want Jimmer" echoing around the arena. You never hear any boos. I think
the same is true in pretty much every NBA arena - except one.That
big exception is in Salt Lake City. That is pretty much the only place where
former BYU players are booed. It is not just Jimmer, it is pretty much every
former BYU player, even when they play for the Jazz. Brad Rock needs to be
honest about the fans in SLC, and not just say that Jimmer attracts cheers and
boos wherever he goes.
I love all the snide comments from Utah fans. I guess they are still bitter
when he dominated them while at BYU. It would nice to actually see a Ute in the
lottery. It sure has been a while hasn't it?The other thing I
love from the article is "He was the 10th pick in a shallow 2011 draft. A
source close to the Jazz says they wouldn’t have picked him even if he had
been available with the 12th pick."Really? I wouldn't say
the Jazz hit a home run with their pick of Alec Burks either. I say this as a
huge Jazz fan. The Jazz are garbage when it comes to shooting. They don't
have a lot of room to talk when it comes to the draft.
All I can say is that for a seven figure salary, I'd trade places with
Jimmer any day of the week. How about changing my story to his...I'll take
it.I think it's got more talent than all the doubters give him
credit for. Just to be in the NBA takes intense work ethic and/or freakish
talent to be there. He may not have freakish talent but he works harder than any
of us wasting time arguing about the level of others' success.I'm still a Jimmer-fan and always will be......unless he
joins the Lakers. I don't think I could handle that.
Keep playing, Jimmer!Jealousy is manifested by those who are weak in
character and heart.
My thoughts about Jimmer has been iterated several times in these comments. NBA
players are pretty much freaks of nature. I like Jimmer because he's where
he is by really hard work and dedication. No Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, he.
They went straight to the NBA from highschool. Adults at 18. Superstars at 19.
Tall and long, quick and super athletic. Amazing, but who can identify with
them?Jimmer is pretty ordinary guy who somehow made player of the
year and thrilled America with his shooting.Maybe he goes to Europe
to play. Oh wow! Bummer. A few years in Europe? I'd sure hate that.Play on Jimmer. You made me feel good and thanks to you I'm now a
BYU hoops fan. I'm still not an NBA fan, but I sure enjoyed watching you
drop 40's on Cal et al.Good on ya.
Why do I get the feeling that certain commenters will still be predicting a
future in Europe for Jimmer even after he's been in the NBA for 10 years?
The "Ho, ho, they can't wait for him in Europe" line gets more
baffling every month.The guy that opined "it's clear he
doesn't belong in the NBA" isn't even attempting to be objective.
The only honest assessment is that, warts and all, he's playing much better
ball this year than he did the last two. If you can shoot 45/40/85 as a guard,
and he's at or above all three marks right now, you will stick in the
League. 50/40/90, within shouting distance, is elite. All you need is one elite
skill. I can't believe that even the "Have fun in
Europe" jokers don't recognize this. One of you couldn't wait for
mention of Steve Nash. Obviously Jimmer isn't a playmaker of Nash's
status, but were Steve Kerr or John Paxson better players?Trade or
no, he's gone next year, hopefully to a team that needs what he provides.
Haha -Brad, Jimmer is the 6th most productive point guard in the league. As a
back up. He's approaching the 5th best from the 3 point range per minutes.
The guy is phenomenal. His previous 3 games he was DOUBLE digits with an
average of 13 minutes. The guy is a stud and has a bright future in the league.
The Kings are showcasing him for a trade that HAS to happen.
Jimmer can't wait. All of basketball can't wait. And the
booing? Looks like the State School up north are still hurting from Jimmer
dropping 47 and a half court bomb on them 3 years ago. Believe me, the booing
is music to Jimmer's ears.
Did any one remember if Danny Ainge, Shawn Bradley, Fred Roberts or even Andy
Toolsen (former 1 year Jazz player) were booed too. GROW up you "U" or
some other fans. I can see myself saying (Mission Impossible" on Shawn
I think that the title of the article is a correct one: The story will not
change for Jimmer. He has been a success story since he was in high school. That
story has not changed for Jimmer. He is a solid scorer. That story in the NBA
has not changed. As someone said above, he is a white dude from Glens Falls NY
playing in the NBA. That story has not changed. He threw down 47 one time. That
story has not changed. The success story for Jimmer has not changed. Never
As always both good and bad comments. Put Jimmer on a better team and you might
see a different player.I would like to see the Jazz sign him to a lower
contract. He is better than Lucas or Garrett. And if he feel he is wanted he
might blossom. So really Brad the "story could change for Jimmer."
Nobody ever taught Jimmer defensive fundamentals and the NBA is no place to
learn those. He'll end up playing in Europe where his lack of defensive
skill won't matter as much.
There are frankly very few players that will succeed on any team or system. Two
examples of former BYU football players in the NFL are Steve Young and Jim
McMahon. Young was ready to quit in Tampa Bay. He's now in the Hall of
Fame because Bill Walsh recognized his value. Jim McMahon won a Super Bowl with
audibles out of plays called by Mike Ditka, but he never found a good situation
after that. The Jazz's own John Stockton is in the Hall of Fame, but Scott
Layden said after his first year with the team he still wasn't sure
Stockton would make it long term. Likewise, the Jazz later drafted Raul Lopez
over Tony Parker. Lopez didn't succeed with the Jazz; does anyone
realistically feel Parker would have done any better under Jerry Sloan? A poster here mentioned the idea of Jimmer with the Heat. The
possibility has also been floated of him with the Lakers. If Jimmer
doesn't have to be the star, he could likely be extremely effective on a
good team. He could well yet end up with a very good career.
Jimmer's NBA role was easily predicted by most knowledgeable observers. No
2013 Ute...: "Remember when I predicted before he even joined the NBA he
wouldn't be able to handle athletic NBA guards? Jimmer is not athletic and
clearly doesn't belong in the NBA."Here's the
thing--your prediction is still wrong. Has he been able to light it up and
become a star? No. Does he belong in the NBA--yes. In order to belong in the
NBA you don't need to be the star, you just need to be able to contribute.
Every team needs guys who can fill in while the stars are resting or slumping,
and Jimmer is that guy. If you'd merely said he didn't belong in the
top-10 of the draft, I'd agree. But to say he doesn't belong in the
league is bitterness.
Jimmer is currently shooting 48% from 3 and 93% from behind the line. He needs
minutes and consistency and he could be a great role player. Did anyone really
expect him to be a superstar. Those are rare and hard to find. A potential 1 to
2 time all-star player I think would have been the most realistic expectation.
But I'm happy with a solid role player. You think Kyle Korver isn't
pleased with his career? Starter, no, but a role player who has made millions
and helped team win.AS for the indidviduals who mock Jimmer's
draft position and lack of lottery picks, chew on this.Kyrie Irving
- All-starDerrick Williams - Already on his second team. was traded for
Luc Richard Mbah a MouteEnes Kanter - Jury still outTristan Thompson
- Looks to be a solid player, averaging 10 pts and 8 reboundsJonas
Valanciunas - 1st year playing, work in progressJan Vesely - bust at 3 pts
per gameBismack Biyombo - 5 pts a game 6 reboundsBrandon Knight -
2nd team already. Solid role playerKemba Walker - looking better and
better. Should be goodGet over yourself and realize this kid is
still making it in the NBA! How about #1 pick Anthony Davis?
Meh--so what if Fredette never becomes a super-star? Fredette is living his
dream. He made the pros. He is *playing* in the pros. More power to him. If
his ceiling is Steve Kerr or even Bobby Hansen, he's still playing
professional ball--in the NBA no less! (as opposed to Europe, etc.) Most
college phenoms don't rise to the highest echelon in the pros, but what kid
suiting up in high school wouldn't want what Fredette's got today?
And if he does suddenly click? That's just icing on the cake.I
hope they can work out a trade with Denver. Not because it's a "better
fit" for Fredette, but because I understand the Fredettes live nearby in the
off-season, and it might be nice to be near home year round.
Jimmer has a positive defensive win share for the first time in his career. His
assist-to-turnover ratio is better than nearly 2/3 of his teammates. He has
been shooting 90/50/40 for most of the season, something only six or seven other
players in history have done. His three point percentage was leading the league
until last night (dipped to 48% last night). His free throw percentage is in
the top three in the NBA. The numbers speak for themselves. Jimmer is
having some success in his limited minutes. I think being a role player as a
spot up shooter is perfect. I don't think he needs a bigger role to stay
in the NBA for years to come.
I was actually surprised with Jimmer's defense last night. I know he
isn't great but he got a steal and a rebound and I didn't see the guy
he was covering score on him. The 3 turnovers were a little sad and his
confidence seems low. Hope he gets more time in Sacramento or finds a team that
suits his abilities better.
I'm not a Ute or a cougar so I may be more balanced in my approach to
Jimmer than some of the earlier posts here. Jimmer was a very good basketball
scorer in college because a good coach maximized his strengths and minimized his
weaknesses. That can't be done in the NBA..... except in very short and
very special situations. Jimmer will score anywhere he plays but he will always
be a big defensive liability and way too slow. So let him play to the best of
his abilities and stop the booing and critical remarks about this nice and
likeable young man.
I am a Jimmer fan and have been for years.That being said, he has
lost his swagger and confidence. it was actually painful to watch him play last
night.I saw 3 unforced turnovers in 8 min. I was embarrassed for him.
Jimmer has made millions, I believe he will exit the NBA, play in Europe for 2
years and hang it up. In the end, he still got to play NBA and make millions.If he does get his confidence back that could change things, but I doubt
that will happen.
This is one Ute fan that hopes Jimmer can succeed in the NBA. Hopefully he can
find a team to give him that opportunity. The Kings are a poorly run
organization period. Jimmer is a class act. I apologize on behalf
of my fellow Utes who act so immature. Good luck Jimmer!
@ Fibonacci Centerville, UTThe reason they do it is because of
the reaction those like you give them each time. If people weren't so
sensitive to the jibes tossed towards the Y, it wouldn't be nearly as
"fun" for those doing the jibbing.The response from BYU
nation merely follows the laws of physics, "for every action, there is an
equal and opposite reaction." LOL
I've heard with the money Jimmer made as a lottery pick, he's planning
to purchase a D League team and put it in Provo. The name of the team will be,
Jimmer'sTime.Can't wait to see him light it up once again,
he'll go for 50 every night. Good times,baby!
To many classless fans at Jazz games for me. When you Boo a 2 year old kid
because he has a BYU shirt on, or you boo a performing dance team from BYU, to
say nothing of booing Fredette for entering the game, I think it's
pathetic. Save it for Rice Eccles or the Huntsman. Does your HATE run that
deep? Maybe it's time for some counseling.
@ Big 12Seems like Trevvor had you pegged before you made your
comment. As a graduate of the U of U, I am embarrassed of the Ute fans. You
may say that BYU fans are classless, but where is the evidence? They don't
boo against 2-year-old children wearing UofU shirts at Jazz games. They
don't boo Miller or Bogut when they come to town. I think it boils down to
the fact that some of the Ute fans are a jealous lot who can't get over the
fact that Jimmer owned them, for a season. I hope Jimmer gets a
chance to shine in a role that suits him. I imagine Miami would love to have
him standing out in 3-land while the opponent quadruple teams James.
Big 12 Call Yet, the tone of your comments leave me wondering more about the
type of person that you are than the type of player Jimmer is. Why are you so
harsh towards Jimmer? Did he do something to you personally? I
don't get the nesty attitude displayed by so many towards a kid just trying
to play basketball. Has Jimmer ever done anything off the court to warrant such
hatred? Not that I am aware of. In fact, he seems to be a really nice person in
every way measureable. So why the hate? I just don't get it.
Hard to feel bad for a guy earning millions to play with NBA stars, but I hope
Jimmer lands somewhere where he is appreciated and can play regularly.
I'm sure he's not surprised by the boos. There are more Utah fans at
the Jazz games than Byu fans anyway since it's right in Ute territory.
Remember when the Byu baby was booed not too long ago? Anyway, I like Jimmer.
Coming in to the league, a lot of NBA scouts said he'd struggle to be
complete player and it looks as if they were right. Being a lottery pick three
years ago means nothing right now. It looks as if he's not going to be in
the league for too much longer as more and more talented college players come
in, unfortunately someone gets pushed out. I think he'll end up in Europe
playing in the near future.
Jimmer will always be a role player in the NBA. And that is okay. He was a pudgy
white kid who has become someone who works in a business that only a few 100
people in the world work in at any one point. He won POY in college. Most people
label that as a legitimate accomplishment. While we sit on the DN comment
boards, he cashes in checks for.......more than we make.......in a lifetime. He
is a success. End of story. He has figured out the fact that life is bigger than
petty ramblings about conferences and alma mater.
Don't write this kid off.Someone will pick him up next summer and
he'll play a long time.
Remember when I predicted before he even joined the NBA he wouldn't be able
to handle athletic NBA guards? Jimmer is not athletic and clearly doesn't
belong in the NBA.The Kings management have told the coach to give
him a few minutes in hopes of convincing some team to take him. So far, no
interested parties.As far as his lack of athleticism, go ahead and
compare him to Steve Nash byu fans. Lets hear it.Euro basketball
can't wait to get Jimmer!
Don't these other teams know Jimmer is a lottery pick?Where are
all the lottery offers in exchange for lottery Jimmer? How come we aren't
hearing of teams offering first round lottery picks for first round lottery
Jimmer?Surely there must be tons of teams willing to give up a first
round pick for first round Jimmer? Whats going on ?
"On Monday he checked in at the start of the second quarter to a mild cheer,
as well as mild boos, from a mildly interested crowd. A smattering of boos
greeted him whenever he touched the ball, a rattle of cheers arose when he
scored."Like I posted on the earlier article:Some
local "fans" need to grow up. I've been to quite a few Jazz games
against Jimmer, Bogut, Andre Miller, and Damian Lillaird. I've cheered for
them all loudly. For some reason a portion of the fans feel the need to boo the
Jimmer. Still bent out of shape over the 47 points he dropped on them maybe?
Whatever it is, time to grow up kids. Only a sad little brother would continue
to boo someone simply because he owned your local program in collegeIf fans don't like Jimmer supporters cheering when he scores -
that's fine, understandable. But to boo the guy just for entering the
game or touching the ball - that screams little brother. Grow up little kids.