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Published: Monday, Jan. 27 2014 5:36 p.m. MST

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NeilT
Clearfield, UT

What is exactly is free government? Maybe we could have more of this free stuff Niederhauser is talking about. And then Repubs accuse Obama of winning by offering free stuff. The gas tax has not been raised since 1997. The gas tax is one of the fairest taxes there is. Those who use our roads and highways pay the tax. Matheson for Governor.

DonO
Draper, UT

Lockhart has no shame and, it would seem, little political integrity. Using the opening of the legislature to do everything but announce her run for governor is ridiculous. Tell what you're going to do as speaker, Lockhart, without attacking the person whose job you want. It also isn't the best way to seek the cooperation of the governor's office at the beginning of a legislative session. Herbert is probably a big enough person to ignore Lockhart's shenanigans for the good of the state but I hope he finds a way to take a good dig at this political animal.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

I could support Lockhart for governor, if it weren't for the fact that she has been a big supporter of HB116 the Utah amnesty legislation, that the Utah Legislature doubled down on last year with SB225.

Herbert has done very little other than signing HB116 and SB225, but Rep Lockhart has been a strong proponent of the Utah Compact and Amnesty for illegal aliens. Last year she was the House sponsor of SB225. She is big supporter of the SL Chamber of Commerce and the Sutherland Institute in their quest for more cheap foreign labor for Utah employers.

Sophie 62
spring city, UT

Oh Brother. More of the same ol' same ol'. The state doesn't need more extreme conservatism or knee-jerk anti-Obama slogans. It needs common sense and caring, and creative solutions that don't gut education and other public programs.
The sad fact is that these programs that jsf mentioned probably will NOT provide for this mom if she's working 2 jobs. The qualifications are pretty stringent to qualify for help from the state. Having affordable health insurance is a much better alternative.

David
Centerville, UT

mcbillay,

Contrary to your comment, the word I hear is that Lockhart is very good. She is tough, bright, gets things done and would be a very good governor.

And I haven't voted for a Republican for governor since the 90's.

jcobabe
Provo, UT

Afraid I am rather distrustful of news reports these days, especially that purport to represent a Senate speech simply by quoting a few dozen words out of a lengthy speech, interspersed with copious journalistic commentary. Although the reporters interpretive impressions might be of some interest, I would be more pleased to hear words the Senator actually said. I feel that most readers of the Deseret News should be fully capable of drawing their own conclusions.

slcman
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@Jefferson, Thomas - Ronald Reagan would be a RINO by your definition. He was known to compromise with Democrats on a whole pile of issues both as governor of California and president. Study his record!

Your eagerness to brand anyone who doesn't toe your narrow ideological line as a RINO is what will destroy the Republican Party. As if you were the Republican gatekeeper.

Jim
Mesa, Az

It is a pretty cheap shot for speaker Lockhart. The opening address shouldn't be a campaign speech and it is not an opportunity to vilify others. To use a sporting term, you play the ball, not the man.

Heidi71
Taylorsville, UT

Herbert has talked the talk, but he is not the kind of governor a lot of us wish he was. Hopefully, he can take Lockhart's words and consider them as constructive criticism. And I sure wish that he wouldn't have grabbed on to that Race to the Top carrot (i.e. ObamaCore). Sure wish he wouldn't have signed our state onto Common Core. And he sure made a poor choice for education advisor. She is unprofessional and dishonest.

aceroinox
Farmington, UT

I can't tell you how disappointed I am to learn that Speaker Lockhart is hedging on her support for Amendment 3. Not only was Amendment 3 passed by an overwhelming majority of the state legislature, but also by the citizens of the State of Utah. There are good reasons for that, but one of the prime reasons is that every child has a right to be raised in a home with a mother and father. Certainly there are situations where because of divorce or death that becomes impossible, but it behooves us as citizens and the government which (should) represent us to ensure that we don't create and put our stamp of approval on a family structure that precludes that blessing in a child's life. Now, some will argue that there are same-sex parents who will do a better job than some flawed traditional marriages. That is undoubtedly true, but is beside the point: a child's right to both a mother and father is a basic right decreed by nature. We have no right to summarily make that impossible.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Yep going against Amendment 3 means she is looking at a national position not the Utah Governor. Sad.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Here's just a few things that Ronald Reagan did as governor:
Signed the largest tax increase in California's history.
Signed the most liberal abortion law in the country.
Signed a bill banning the carrying of firearms in public.
Increased funding for education, both primary ed and higher ed.

Is this the ultra-conservative governor you wanted for Utah? If so, I think I'd support him too. Reagan was really more of a pragmatist in the Eisenhower/Nixon mold, it's just that his rhetoric was more conservative.

rightascension
Provo, UT

Expanding Medicare and Medicaid would be an improvement in Utah. Currently the members of Utah's legislature have distributed their own weight in words complaining about Obamacare -- but what has the legislature actually done to promote health? Has it pass legislation to deal with pollution -- something important to a person like me with astham and sensitive lungs? Has the legislature done anything to completely discourage smoking in the state? What will the legislature do to counter the threat of people driving into Utah from Colorado with recreational marijuana? What is the legislature doing to discourage the depressant drug misuse of alcohol? What has it done to fund studies in mental health? What has it done to stop insurance companies doing business in this state from discriminating against pre existing conditions.

Brian Utley
Freedom, IN

Why would Lockhart think the governor needs to be a man of action? Does she not believe as she has heretofore avowed that the government that governs least governs best. This is the problem with governments...and government people. They think that because they have this temporary, part-time job they have to do something. This is where our plethora of rules and regulations (laws) comes from. We've become so hedged up by ambitious, save-the-world government functionaries that everybody is turning to the government to solve all of our problems. It's like a sickness...thinking that government always has to become something. Yes, there is virtue in becoming, but there is virtue in just being, as well. Gary Herbert has done a good job in staying the course, not moving until the handwriting on the wall tells him there are no other options. This is a man whom I value.

A Quaker
Brooklyn, NY

I didn't think there was anyone who could raise my respect for Governor Herbert. I freely admit I was wrong. There are Utah politicians worse than him.

A Quaker
Brooklyn, NY

@aceroinox: You know... If SSM was legal (remains legal), there may be fewer children being raised by their gay parents. This is because gay children wouldn't grow up afraid to admit who they are, and wouldn't force themselves to try living a straight life with someone they have no romantic interest in and could never bond with, and wouldn't end up making a baby or two which they end up having custody of after the divorce when they find their true love in a member of the same sex.

Besides, the statistics prove that the government has no interest in marriage as a means of ensuring two nurturing biological parents living with every child. The divorce rate is 50%. Almost 41% of births are out-of-wedlock. There are single parents, multiple competing adoption agencies, all kinds of blended families, and thousands of kids languishing in orphanages. Plus, there is absolutely no requirement for a married couple to bear children. On what basis do you conclude our government takes an active interest in family composition?

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

"Elected officials who are Latter-day Saints make their own decisions and may not necessarily be in agreement with one another or even with a publicly stated Church position. While the Church may communicate its views to them, as it may to any other elected official, it recognizes that these officials still must make their own choices based on their best judgment and with consideration of the constituencies whom they were elected to represent."

From the LDS Newsroom on Political neutrality.

IMAN
Marlborough, MA

@Jefferson, Thomas:
"I challenge anyone to site just one conservative Governor from the state of Utah who's conservative leadership approach would be comparative to the great Reagan or Thatcher,"

Awesome! I spit out my morning coffee as I read that. Hilarious. You've a great sense of humor. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

CBAX
Provo, UT

Sophie

I will go next. What do we do for the 250 year old Revolutionary war vet's widow with 20 children (ha, beat you duggars) who works 4 part time jobs with no coverage on health care (5 hours a week each job) and who needs new wheels for her wheel chair and crutches because evil republicans are on a quest to convert all wheel chair ramps into scrap metal to build tanks out of them while polluting the atmosphere at the same time!

/takes breath (what a sentence)

Stop picking out random terrible situations as basis for the way you see things. I know a two single moms who could have landed in that boat but didn't. Lets not use them as "good" examples...

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

How many of you "anti-Herbert" types voted for the very same Gary Herbert in 2010 and 2012? Did he change much after he assumed the governor's office when Huntsman left? I'm going to guess all of you voted for him - not only once, but twice.

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