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Published: Sunday, Jan. 26 2014 6:04 p.m. MST

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Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

The second half of the WCC season should go better than the first but that damage is probably already done. Hopefully the cougs can gain some momentum going into the WCC tourney, miraculously take the tournament and get an 11 seed. Not likely but still possible. Weird how out of the four best basketball teams in the state (BYU, USU, Utah, UVU), the one in a top conference is the least likely to go dancing. I guess that's the fun of having 330+ division I teams.

Old Navy
Provo, UT

Things can only get better for BYU. Losing to Portland was an all-time low!

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

They did pretty well contesting the 3 with portland but they were shooting very well. However with Gonzaga they they let Pango have uncontested shots because they were helping some where else. When you have a shooter that is hot you don't leave him.You didn't see Gonzaga leaving Haws to help out somewhere else. He had to work very hard for all his shots, Whereas Pango got some easy looks and drained them.

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

"Skyler Halford and Matt Carlino combined to go 2 of 13 from the floor and score four points against the Bulldogs."

Why these two guys play over Winder and Bartley baffles me.

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

There are no probable invites of any kind for Utah schools to post season play at this point. Their only hope now is to aim at winning their respective conferences championships, a tall order but not at all impossible. Miracles still happens and in college basketball, you can never say never! If they make it, it's then that we find out how good they really are against the best from the other conferences in the country.

Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!

JDS1
St George, UT

Until the Cougars learn to play some defense, it doesn't matter where they play. Also, if Collinsworth could learn to make a free throw, the Cougs would have beaten Portland easily, despite their hot shooting. I, too, would like to see Winder and Bartley with more minutes.

Weber State Graduate
Clearfield, UT

My high school basketball coach would make poor free throw shooters like Collinsworth shoot 1,000 free throws every practice until he "got it right." Anyone remember the Florida game a few years ago? There is simply no excuse for poor free throw shooting at the college level.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

BYU should easily win 5 of the 6 remaining home games.

Road game wins will depend upon which BYU team shows up.

Worst case 5 and 4 (18 and 13 overall).

Best case 8 and 1 (21 and 10 overall)...

Maybe 9 and 0 (22 and 9 overall) with a win over Gonzaga.

With the tournament being on the road it will again depend upon which BYU team shows up.

Big 12 Call Yet?
Ogden, UT

I predicted Gonzaga would beat byu 83-68. It was obvious byu was never going to win that game. Gonzaga is better across the board and byu doesn't have the quality of athletes, coaching, or desire to play Defense to win the game.

LoveTheKittens
Central, UT

@There You Go Again

Yes, easily.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Nice to see a sports writer use Gonzaga's real mascot name, Bulldogs, instead of calling them the Zags.

babyR
Salt Lake, UT

some OF MY OBSERVATIONS:
1. Teach the team how to guard against the 3-point shooters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Pull out the players who miss their assignment on the 3-point shooters.
3. COACH the team members on how to guard the 3-point shooters
4. Coach the team on how to set up our 3-point shooter against the defense.
5. Have each player (except Haws and maybe Carlino) shoot 1000 free throws each practice!
6. Coach the team on how to play both halves of the game.
And finally, yes, the Cougars have the quality of players, coaching, and skills to beat the best teams---can't judge the DESIRE, just the outcomes.

EastCoastView
Spartanburg, SC

Part 1

Statistics reveal that as of today, of the regular players, Carlino is having the worst shooting season in the last 10 years.
I define a regular shooting player as one who averages at least five field goal attempts per game. Each year (over the last 10 years) there are 4-6 players on the team that fall into that category.

Here are the 8 lowest shooting percents:

SeasonPlayerShots/GameField goal percent
13CARLINO, Matt13.2.386
05BROADUS, Rashaun8.0.393
07TAVERNARI, Jonathan12.0.395
04BALDERSON, Jimmy5.4.397
04HALL, Mike12.0.400
11CARLINO, Matt11.0.401
07FREDETTE, Jimmer5.8.407
12CARLINO, Matt10.5.408

Here are the 9 best:
SeasonPlayerShots/GameField goal percent
08MILES, Chris5.0.570
07CUMMARD, Lee9.9.569
11HARTSOCK, Noah11.2.565
06CUMMARD, Lee6.1.553
04JENSEN, Jared5.5.550
06PLAISTED, Trent9.0.546
06YOUNG, Keena12.8.543
07PLAISTED, Trent10.7.542
13MIKA, Eric9.2.541

Looks like we would have a better chance letting Mika have most of Carlino’s shots.

EastCoastView
Spartanburg, SC

Part 2

A lower % shooting 3s may be better than a high % of 2s, but in Carlino’s case it is doesn’t work:

So far Carlino is 32-101 for 3s (96 total points) and 80-189 for 2s (160 points) for 256 total points. Mika get 314 points taking Carlino's 290 shots at .541 %.

Looking at the same set of players (at least 5 shots per game) and take out the point difference due to the 2 and 3 point shot by looking at points per shot (summing the points and dividing that by the total number of shots):

Six lowest:
SeasonPlayerPoints/total shots
13CARLINO, Matt0.88
05BROADUS, Rashaun0.94
10ABOUO, Charles0.94
04HALL, Mike0.95
11CARLINO, Matt0.95
12CARLINO, Matt0.97

Six Best:
SeasonPlayerPoints/total shots
07CUMMARD,Lee1.31
06CUMMARD,Lee1.30
09EMERY,Jackson1.26
06AINGE,Austin1.22
08EMERY,Jackson1.19
13HALFORD,Skyler1.17

Numbers for this year:
CARLINO-0.88, HAWS-1.01, COLLINSWORTH-1.03, MIKA-1.08, HALFORD-1.17

So should Halford and Mika take most of Carlino’s shots?

EastCoastView
Spartanburg, SC

Sorry, tabs didn't work

Again:
Season Player Shots/Game Field goal percent
13 CARLINO, Matt 13.2 .386
05 BROADUS, Rashaun 8.0 .393
07 TAVERNARI, Jonathan 12.0 .395
04 BALDERSON, Jimmy 5.4 .397
04 HALL, Mike 12.0 .400
11 CARLINO, Matt 11.0 .401
07 FREDETTE, Jimmer 5.8 .407
12 CARLINO, Matt 10.5 .408
09 TAVERNARI, Jonathan 8.8 .415
10 ABOUO, Charles 5.7 .415

Season Player Shots/Game Field goal percent
08 MILES, Chris 5.0 .570
07 CUMMARD, Lee 9.9 .569
11 HARTSOCK, Noah 11.2 .565
06 CUMMARD, Lee 6.1 .553
04 JENSEN, Jared 5.5 .550
06 PLAISTED, Trent 9.0 .546
06 YOUNG, Keena 12.8 .543
07 PLAISTED, Trent 10.7 .542
13 MIKA, Eric 9.2 .541
10 DAVIES, Brandon 7.6 .525

Season Player Points/total shots
13 CARLINO, Matt 0.88
05 BROADUS, Rashaun 0.94
10 ABOUO, Charles 0.94
04 HALL, Mike 0.95
11 CARLINO, Matt 0.95
12 CARLINO, Matt 0.97

Season Player Points/total shots
07 CUMMARD, Lee 1.31
06 CUMMARD, Lee 1.30
09 EMERY, Jackson 1.26
06 AINGE, Austin 1.22
08 EMERY, Jackson 1.19
13 HALFORD, Skyler 1.17

wallyball
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I have had friends with lot's of playing experience and basketball knowledge try to convince me that BYU's defensive problems are more related to execution and the scheme than actual players ability. As I have watched the defense more intently I'm starting to believe what they say. I'm not quite sure what the percentages are but either the scheme is bad or the players are just too undisciplined to do what they are taught. It's hard for me to believe that some of the lower tier WCC teams have better athletes than the Y.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

The rest of the season doesn't look too good. We're 5-4 in conference play and I think we finish the 2nd half 5-4 as well to go 10-8 in the WCC and 18-13 overall. I highly doubt we will reach 20 wins this season based on our success in the WCC tourney (1 win in 2 seasons). I don't expect a big run in the NIT this year either. We very likely could go one and done in both the WCC tourney and the NIT to finish the year 18-15 and barely over .500

The worst thing is to see the total lapses and inconsistency on defense from one game to the next. Pangos was just wide open in the 2nd half with no defender in sight and plenty of time to shoot. How do we not know he's their main 3 pt threat?!

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