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Published: Saturday, Jan. 25 2014 6:28 p.m. MST

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Spydee
Murray, UT

I have read several comments about not living in Utah due to the air pollution.
It is not the entire state that has the problem. Many communities in Utah that are not subject to the inversion caused by a valley surrounded by mountains do not suffer from this problem.

The only way to completely get rid of the problem would be to level the mountains (think what that would do to your taxes!).

That said, we all can and should work to idle our cars less, use public transit when we can, and pass laws that make good compromise between air quality and jobs.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

The air is bad. Let's all drive down to the capitol and demand that the legislature fix it.

What an insane idea. There is no billowing pollution coming from the State capitol. It is all of us creating the pollution. Get rid of all the people and problem solved.

Or, realize we live in a bowl, and when the air is stagnant, drive less, and don't waste trips running to the capitol to demand they fix something they can't fix.

Mr. Bean
Phoenix, AZ

"We live here because we love the mountains. We love the scenery here. And if you can't see it, why stay?"

With mountains comes trapped smog. If you don't like smog, suggest you move to Kansas where Dorothy lived. The wind will blow the smog away... but perhaps your house as well.

@LovelyDeseret Gilbert, AZ:
"I suggest Salt Lake Valley and Utah Valley buy out all factories and stop more from being built."

In which case, unemployed Utahns would have to move to Gilbert. You'd have to move over to make room.

@SLC Philosopher:
"Much of the cost to the state of reducing pollution could easily be financed through directed taxes..."

I'm sure that most Utahns in the valley would disagree. The state now takes a lion's share of the cost of gas through taxes as it is.

"We know most of our pollution comes from motor vehicles..."

Then those people should live closer to their work. It's just plain stupid to live in Utah Country and drive to Salt Lake City to work.

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@Spydee:
"The only way to completely get rid of the problem would be to level the mountains..."

It has been said something to the effect that... if a person had the faith of a grain of mustard seed they could say to yon mountain remove yourself and it would be removed. Extremely Cheap way to solve any pollution problem.

Actually, the answer is to put several huge (really huge) fans in the canyons to the east of town and suck the dirty air out of the entire valley.

And you could put some power generating windmills in front of the fans to generate the electricity to run them. :)

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Either Neanderthal has a sarcastic sense of humor, or he/she doesn't understand power generation and losses in the system.

In using power to move air, then using the moving air to generate power, there will be a net loss of power, and where you harvest the remaining energy in the moving air, the pollution will collect.

Maybe point the fans straight up so the winds aloft can take the pollution away?
(I do have a sarcastic sense of humor, but it is a nice dream.)

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@Badgerbadger:
"Either Neanderthal has a sarcastic sense of humor, or he/she doesn't understand power generation and losses in the system."

It would be stupid to not put something in front of the fans to generate power. Why let moving air go to waste? There is a slight problem, though. The people up in Park City et. al., would likely have fits with all that dirty air from the valley passing through their neighborhoods.

"In using power to move air, then using the moving air to generate power, there will be a net loss of power, and where you harvest the remaining energy in the moving air, the pollution will collect."

The added power to make the difference could come from solar panels someplace in the valley... or maybe the southwest desert where the sun shines alot... and at night from the moon (there certainly must be some useable energy in moonbeams).

"Maybe point the fans straight up so the winds aloft can take the pollution away?"

Now yer talkin'. But wait... there ain't no wind aloft in inversions, izer?

Amy288
South Jordan, UT

I've been in the valley for 2 yrs now and from what I hear from people who have lived here their whole lives is that it is definitely worse than years ago. My eyes were burning last week from the pollution, I have an upper respiratory infection and haven't had one of those in over 20 yrs. One thing I don't understand is most cities/states have trip lights. How many minutes do I waste idling at a stop light with nothing coming from either direction. This annoys me not only for the time I waste (Utah lights are FOREVER LONG) and for the amount of exhaust pumping into the air.

Way of the Warrior
Arlington, WA

Washington state implemented an effective program to help reduce pollution caused by commuting. Google "WSDOT Commute Trip Reduction". Our CTR program might be worth looking into for ideas that could help Utah as well.

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