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Published: Friday, Jan. 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

Is this true? Is it? Somebody explain to me why we are not being allowed to worship God according to our own conscience! Think about it! What does "all men" mean? Part of every man's quest for God is living a life of dignity! Mormons don't believe in the 11th article of faith! This is no game! we struggle to make lives better and you tell us that we are not allowed to believe in ourselves! How do we worship God if we do not believe in ourselves? We do! In our way, we worship our creator by caring enough about ourselves to do what is best for us! What are we to Mormons? It is clear that article 11 does not apply to us, so who do you really say we are? I will stand up to any of you who would degrade me to the point where you have no consideration of me as a man! Something is very wrong!

nonceleb
Salt Lake City, UT

Samuel leaves out the most important part of the 11th Amendment. It forbids the federal judiciary from involvement in suits against states brought by a citizen or citizens of another state or country. That is not the case here as the suit was brought by Utah citizens. Also, Shelby did not "make" a law. He ruled a current "law" (a state constitutional amendment) to be unconstitutional. That is the constitutional responsibility of the judiciary. If he had ruled in favor of the state you would not have heard complaints of "judicial tyranny" from opponents of marriage equality, but they would be heaping endless praise for the independent judiciary, separation of powers and checks and balances of our political system.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

RFLASH,

How about reading the other Articles of Faith too. How about reading how we believe God the Father and in His Son and in the Holy Ghost? How about reading about personal transgressions? How about reading about keeping the commandments? How about trying to understand that Christ came to earth, not to save us in our sins, but to change, to leave those sins behind us so that he could save us from our sins?

When we separate God from life, we get those who hunt for a single principle that they might think excuses them. Religion, when taken in its fulness, gets us past that self-centered view and allows us to understand the "wholeness" of Christ's doctrine and the requirements that His Doctrine places upon those who profess to follow Him.

Removing God from our lives is to remove the very foundation of civilization. The commonality between religions is greater than the differences, but the philosophies of men wander all over creation.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Open Minded Mormon

The 14th amendment was wrongly applied.

And it certainly doesn't override the 10th amendment. Defining Marriage was never right given to the federal government.

Contrary to extreme left opinion States do rights and powers, in fact, ALL not delegated to the federal government.

Federal government has no right being involved in marriage.

fmalad
Malad, ID

Cost our state dearly: No the last time we debated sex was justifying polygamy it almost prevented us from becoming a state!

fmalad
Malad, ID

I think U.S. District Judge Robert Shelby should be given a peace prize for upholding the constitution and putting a stop to bigotry!

Chilidog
Somewhere, IL

Wow. For once I am impressed with the quality of the responses here. Yes, the 11th amendment is not applicable. And, I might add, the 14th amendment trumps the 10th in this case.

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

When shelby was appointed in 2011, Both of Utah's senators supported the nomination! Just a fact for you CONservatives to chew on!

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