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Published: Thursday, Jan. 23 2014 6:30 p.m. MST

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utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

I didn't realize that SUU was the powerhouse that the Desnews staff makes them out to be. The fact that they would take any player from SUU over players from Utah or even byU at any position, is suspect.

Let's dig this list up in a couple years and see who is playing in the league. Keith McGill, Jake Murphy, Poutasi and Trevor Reilly will all be

BoSox4
St. George, UT

@utahcountyute I completely agree except for Gavin Farr from SUU that dude is a beast he will be playing on sundays

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

Wilson beat both of the other QBs and also beat a team that finished ranked in the top 10. When was the last time a QB from this state beat a team that FINISHED in the top 10?

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It is interesting to note that BYU, in 9 of the last 12 games, became a much better team after playing the U. It's just that BYU caught the U at the wrong time, right?

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

I prefer to look up head-to-head winners, games against good competition, players drafted in NFL, and pro-bowlers. Lately Utah has dominated all of these.

Utah was 3-0 vs in State in 2013
Utah currently has more NFL players than the rest of the state combined.
Utah beat a team that finished #10 in the country (Stanford). No other in state team beat a team that finished ranked.
Utah has 3 NFL pro-bowlers that will be playing this Sunday (Eric Weddle, Jordan Gross, and Alex Smith)

The players on the Utes now will make more noise in the NFL and proved to be better on the field (head to head). They would have put up bigger numbers and more wins if they too would have played cream puffs every week.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

BYU plays teams like Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, and Nevada. They lose to Virginia but they are better than Utah even though Utah beat BYU and USU. The Stanford win was better than the Texas win and all of this is silly. Play a different schedule and things are also different for BYU. You can't compare overall records when the schedules are nothing alike.

Stang08
Southern, UT

Way to represent SUU. Guess the boys down south are better then some people thought.

tdlawton
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I am pretty sure the DNews hacks picking these teams were trying to tweak the nose of Ute fans... *shrug*... In this case I think we should at least check the numbers.

Not that any single rating system is foolproof, but at least Sagarin is objective and takes SOS in to account:

2013 end of year Sagarin rankings:
# 34 Utah SOS # 3
# 35 BYU SOS # 38
# 41 USU SOS # 74
#171 SUU SOS #169
#228 Weber St. SOS #147

If Utah has so few top flight players they must have had great coaching, oh... not according to the shills at the DNews.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Heh, considering these teams you'd think Utah's coaches would be picked because apparently they get their wins with inferior talent...

Frozen Chosen
Savage, MN

Jordan Johnson from BYU did not play in 2013, should not be eligible for your little draft.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Virginia, I know your papa probably said, "If you see it in the D-news, it is so." So don't let me cast doubt with facts and logic. How dreary would the world be for some fans if their team was not all the D-news makes them out to be?

As proof to what many say about strength od schedule, consider this. "Tiger, tiger, tiger." LSU, Auburn, and Savannah State are all tigers and only BYU plays any of these next year! How impressive is that?

Fight On!
St George, Utah

Holy Smokes,
You Utah fans are so insecure.

Everybody knows that Utah's 2013 schedule is Murder's row, every Utah fan uses that excuse. And yes Utah did win all 3 in-state match ups and beat a Stanford team that finished ranked #11/#10. But for the second year in a row, Utah failed to beat the mediocre teams on it's schedule and was home for the holidays again.

The question is, how long will the "We played a harder schedule" excuse hold up? Especially without a win over BYU to rest your season on?

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Truly one of the most comical read in a long time.

Utah # 4 in the Pac-12 and #8 in the country in sacks has only 1 D-lineman on the team. Talk about LOL.

KH
Holladay, UT

Fight On

"But for the second year in a row, Utah failed to beat the mediocre teams on it's schedule and was home for the holidays again."

The mediocre teams on Utah's schedule are at an entirely different level than the average byu opponent. I wish Utah had byu's schedule. We'd have 6 or 7 very easy for sure wins every year. Wait, I don't wish that at all. I love the competition Utah plays in the PAC 12!

Indy
St George, Utah

Not one BYU offensive lineman should be on this list. Especially Ryker Matthews, who was injured most the season. Honestly, outside of the Texas game. BYU was dominated at the line of scrimmage against every decent opponent we played. 6 sacks given up against Utah!

The only BYU players that should be on this list:

Taysom Hill- The was the most dominant player in the state once his passing improved. He Kept BYU in every game.

Jamaal Williams- Running behind an atrocious line he still ran for over 1,000yds

Cody Hoffman- Caught anything thrown even close to him. Best receiver in BYU history.

Kyle Van Noy- Easily the best LB in the state. Maybe even in the West, outside of Anthony Barr. Will be a 1st round draft pick.

Robertson Daniel- 3rd string corner that stepped up and shut down opposing receivers.

Adam Hine- He was a threat to take it to the house on every return.

Chamberlain
Salt Lake City, UT

gdog3finally

"You can't compare overall records when the schedules are nothing alike."

So why did Utah fans insist that Utah 2004 (#67 SOS) and Utah 2008 (#56 SOS) deserved a shot at the national championship even though Utah's schedule wasn't even as good as BYU's 2013 schedule (#38 SOS)?

It's sad how Utah fans have trashed the credibility of their own pre-big boy conference accomplishments in their frantic and emotional attempt to discredit BYU.

BYU 2013, with a schedule that was better than any schedule Utah had ever played prior to 2013, finished 8-5 with a bowl game.

Show me a Utah team that has ever finished with a winning season and a bowl game after playing a schedule ranked 38th or higher.

Fight On!
St George, Utah

KH

Did you even read my comment? I acknowledged that Utah had a very touch schedule, beat all 3 in-state opponents, and even beat a top 10 team. But then you lost to a 7-6 OSU team, an 8-5 Arizona team, and a 6-7 WSU team. 3 games against MEDIOCRE teams that cost the Utes a bowl game. Are you following me?

And then my question was, "how long will the "We played a harder schedule" excuse hold up? Especially without a win over BYU to rest your season on?"

Your response tells me all I need to know.
When Utah goes 3-9 the next two seasons without wins over BYU to rest your season on, there will be a mass exodus of Utah fans jumping ship, and it will be glorious.

But at least you will be playing good competition...

Rose Bowl call yet?
Salt Lake City, UT

KH

"The mediocre teams on Utah's schedule are at an entirely different level than the average BYU opponent."

Don't kid yourself; Washington State(6-7) was a very mediocre team. The Wazoo blew a big lead in the New Mexico Bowl in losing to Colorado State(8-6) 45-48.

At least 10 of the 13 opponents on BYU 38th-ranked schedule would have beaten both of those teams, Utah, obviously, not being one of them.

tdlawton
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"But for the second year in a row, Utah failed to beat the mediocre teams on it's schedule and was home for the holidays again."

Can you name the mediocre teams Utah failed to beat? Utah played 12 teams, 10 of the them were Bowl teams (the most in the nation). Utah beat both non-Bowl teams on the Utes schedule and went 3-7 vs. the Bowl teams.

I guess one could say that Washington St (Utah's worst loss on paper) was mediocre, but those Wazzu Cougars were still a lot better than the Virginia Cavaliers...

BYU lost two games to non-Bowl teams and was still able to have a winning record thanks, in part at least, to catching Boise State and Utah State w/ back-up QBs and having some less than mediocre teams like Idaho St, Middle Tennessee, and Nevada on their schedule.

What happened when BYU played Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Washington, and yes Utah?

KH
Holladay, UT

Fight On,

I'm glad to hear that you did not disagree with my comment, that the "mediocre" teams on Utah's schedule are at a different level than the average byu opponent. At least we agree on one thing. byu can keep beating bad teams and win 8 games. I'll take the struggle against top competition.

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