Published: Thursday, Jan. 23 2014 9:35 a.m. MST
“. . . the less a government interferes with personal economic freedom,
the better its people become educated, and the more effective is its health care
system.”Doing a few internet searches, this does not appear to
be the case. Single payer health care systems are well rated and education is
high in many countries with more what would be considered more govt.
“interference” than in the US.I understand this might be
what we want to believe but we need to rely on facts not platitudes.
Exports are at an all time high. Our natural gas production is so high that
energy intensive industry worldwide are looking to relocate to the US.
Bankruptcy and death are not the primary options for those with a preexisting
medical conditions. Our tech companies dominate their industry worldwide. Home
mortgages are once again evaluated on documented income. Gays are free to marry
in 17 states and soon will be free to do so nationwide, once Utah loses the
appeals court case and loses the Supreme Court case 5-4. Manufacturing is
booming for small firms because of 3-D printing. Our creative arts dominate the
world. High school graduation rates are way up. Teen pregnancy is at an all
time low. Abortions are at an all time low. We re- elected a black President.
Our Supreme Court has three women. Our Fed is led by a woman. Social media
forces are chipping away at repressive freedom killing conservative principles
24/7. These are the best of times. I love every minute of it and may God Bless
the USA and all His world's creations.
Well, OK, but you should try to look at the world through at least one other set
of eyes. I went to the WSJ - Heritage site and also the World Happiness Index
site. Compare the top six countries from both:WSJ - Heritage: Hong
Kong, Singapore, Australia, Switzerland, NZ, CanadaWorld Happiness:
Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands, Sweden, CanadaWhy the
difference? I suspect WSJ- Heritage reflects freedom for capital more, and
World Happiness includes labor contentment, less harassment of labor. Northern
Europe has long led there. WSJ - Heritage is insensitive to stress
on labor - Hong Kong, Singapore? Give me a break!Interesting
sidebar - Switzerland and Canada make the varsity in both. Why?
Also note that the United States doesn't make it to the top group in either
the WSJ - Heritage or World Happiness Index. Do you think it is because we have
both less economic freedom and more hostility to labor? For your consideration.
How does this article square with the fact that nearly all of the nations that
scored better than us have stronger regulations of their banking industry,
universal healthcare and a minimum wage that keeps full time workers out of
The United States went from nothing to singular superpower in not even two
hundred years under its founding principles, simultaneously watching socialism,
"big government", and theophobia fail spectacularly time and again for a
century. Why do American citizens and leaders suddenly want to flip it all
Try starting a business in America today! High taxes, regulations, red tape,
government agencies, permits, massive paperwork and lawyers all take all the
incentive out of it.
"But in the United States, the Affordable Care Act has added new regulatory
layers onto health care that makes it more difficult for businesses to
prosper."And yet most of the countries rated above the US have
the full monte version of socialized medicine. Not sure how you reconcile
those two data points, but evidently it isn't going to stop the author of
somehow trying to draw that thread.
I agree with the editorial, especially the part that says that "the less the
government interferes with personal economic freedom, the better its people
become educated". If you're hungry, you'll expand your ability to
increase your value to others so that they will pay you for your abilities.
That's the greatest incentive to add value to your skills. When the
government feeds us, clothes us, houses us and provides us with free cellphones
and "free" health care, there is no incentive to add value to our
skills. People work just about as hard as they need too. Very few have the
discipline to continually add value to their skills. Government
that assumes the role of "nanny" cripples its citizens. It makes
citizens slaves by denying them the consequences of their actions. Our Creator
gave us agency with accountability. He placed us in families who are
responsible to get us going in life. He never charged government with the task
of being our "mommy" or our "daddy".
Well it is pretty simple to understand. If a person is a slave, then pretty
much all of their work product goes to someone else. The master of the
plantation, or the masters of a government. If a person pays only half of their
work earnings to a government, then in a sense they are only half enslaved. Now
for those of you who say the person gets a lot back from government, that is
true. However. What is the threat of not paying that half? In some case
enslavement. Or prison if you like. And at a minimum, repaying the back taxes
with a huge addition of late fees and penalities added. So, the government in a
sense makes us, the average citizen live in fear of that very government and its
power. That is why, in our world, the country with too much government power
has frequently become a tyranny. That is also why, we in America need to see to
it that our government of the people and for the people, does not become a
government against the people and for itself.
The rich are get richer, the middle and poor are getting poorer.It all happened on the watch of GWBush and the GOP, like Nero lighting
Rome of fire and playing his fiddle while watching it burn -- which
is WHY I loathe and go after them daily for all their WRONG policies!Phooey!BTW -- Who IS going to pay the $3 Trillion - direct
costs - and $6 trillion in indirect costs -- for his still yet unfunded and
unpaid for Middle Eastern wars?Not to mention the $49 trillion lost
in home values,and $16 trillion lost in wages and earnings.While the rich off-shored $21 trillion into Caymen island and swiss bank
accounts, and Corporations squirrel away another $100 trillion in profits.
Nearly the exact same article was published but a couple of days ago in this
same paper. The factors used to make this determination are flawed on their
face and the DesNews is rapidly becoming what most conservative "news"
sources have reverted to over the past few years: an echo chamber for their own
propaganda. These "opinion" pieces are making it clearer
and clearer that the DesNews has put away any semblance of integrity and prefers
rather to "believe" only things that support their worldview. Perhaps, if the DesNews actually cared about providing a useful opinion, they
would have been more studious and consulted the Church's Proclamation on
the Economy. That helps reveal that our Nation is "less free" but for
an entirely different set of reasons than the ones outlined here.
I'm going to focus on just one comment from the piece: "And even with
the federal income tax taking 39.6 percent from the top earners, the nation is
nowhere near meeting its burgeoning obligations."If you
don't understand the difference between a top marginal rate and actual
taxes paid, please refrain from commenting about tax policy. I suspect that you
do know the difference, which means you are simply lying to prove a point.The actual effective federal income tax rate for the wealthiest
Americans is 16.6%. (source IRS)
Ah yes. Why, if only the government ran our lives completely, we would then be
free! That's LDS Liberals' world view. I love the "It's
Bush's Fault! Obama did nothing! 70 years from now, it will be
Bush's fault!!!!!!" Cue frothing at the mouth. Guess what: Bush is
somewhat to blame; because he expanded the nanny state too. Pray tell, who is
going to pay for the 7 or so trillion of debt the democrats have added? It is
COMPLETELY on them, because they passed the stimulus package--and ever since
then have refused to cut that stimulus out. We've been dumping a trillion
dollars a year of government spending over and above what Bush ever had--and we
are STILL in recession, still worse off, and Obama with the NSA and spying is
rapidly destroying the US tech edge. Who's going to order American tech
anything? Liberalism is another word for slavery to government.
LDS LiberalYou could really benefit from watching FOX and Bill
O'Reilly. Just last night for instance the very subject of the rich
getting richer was a topic. Truth is, all the stats show that the huge
disparity between rich getting richer and poor getting less has in FACT happened
MOST under these last 5 years of Obama. Just the facts. Sorry. Sooner or
later you guys will have to get into the current times and realize that going on
6 years of Obama, it is all his game now. And it is becoming more and more
apparant that if with 8 years available to Obama he is not able to fix things,
he was a bad choice to be President in the first place. But, in liberal terms,
he has made things worse. Medium income in America has dropped some 4 thousand
dollars during his administration.
Single payer health care and regulated banking sector are both missing from the
This is just a matter of the Deseret News supporting supply-side capitalism as
opposed to Keynesian capitalism.
Hutterite. We do have a single payer healthcare system now. Those who have
healthcare insurance are subsidizing those who don't by paying higher
premiums, higher deductibles and higher co-pays not to mentions higher hidden
taxes! What more do you want?
And as we know... that's a "good" thing.
RJL: both types of capitalism you referred to are better known as
crony-capitalism. Both types are reverse Robin Hood policies, stealing from the
poor and middle class to benefit the already-rich.
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