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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 21 2014 11:35 a.m. MST

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2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0
Ogden, UT

Last year byu fans said Van Noy was a first rounder.

And now he's projected to go "in the first two rounds" and somehow that's a sign of his draft stock improving?

Sure about that?

Does the author know that going from round 1 to 2 is not reflective of a rising stock. Yes, the number 2 is larger than the number 1, but its actually stock going down.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

It depends on the author.
An author for bleacher report had Van Noy in the top 20 due to his versatility.
Outside linebacker is an interesting position in today's NFL. I think it is about a 50-50 split of 4-3 defenses to 3-4, and Van Noy does not fit into a 4-3 system (either to small to be D-end or not playing on the edge when in a base 4-3)
It looks like cbs is saying first round to the saints or the falcons. Looking for a pass rusher off the edge.
Trevor Reilly is not as athletic but can fit in a 4-3 or a 3-4 and is predicted to go in the 2 to 3rd round.

souptwins
Lindon, UT

I have the feeling Van Noy may be one of those guys that does himself a lot of favors in this post-season game, the combine, and working with the coaches. He was double & triple teamed all season which led to some drops in his stat's but there are some intangibles that stat's don't always account for but are obvious. You can't help but admire the way he made the decision to return to graduate and how he's conducted himself. Really a class act and a beast who can get past guys to the pocket or drop into coverage. His versatility will be a real asset to any team.

TXAfghanVet
Dallas, TX

From what I remember and can find on the internet now, Kyle Van Noy was projected to go in the first or second round of the 2013 NFL draft. I'm not sure what the opinion of any Cougar fan (with maybe the exception of Andy Reid) would have to do with where he would have gone in the draft last year. That being said, typically the well read sports fan knows that when you read that an athletes "stock is rising", it's more of a day to day awareness by talent scouts in the NFL and that the athlete is likely moving up on team draft boards.

My guess is that Van Noy may have gone a little higher had a he gone to the draft last year. His year had a lot more highlight moments. This year, teams focused on him more and so even though he changed a lot of plays, those plays went away from him. So not quite so much press. But as NFL teams now start focusing in on the seniors and observing workouts, it would make sense that his "stock would rise". Really easy to understand for this honest observer.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

What's going on here?

Didn't my little sister claim that only elite teams like our bottom-dwelling Utes have NFL-caliber players?

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

He should be a top 5 pick in this year's draft.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I sometimes wish there was a Cougar fan who was the first to comment on every Utah article, and find a way to spin every Utah story in a negative way regardless of the situation.

Here's a story of a young man who is an incredible man and has made remarkable strides on and off the football field and is about to cash in on a 7 or 8 figure contract, and an infamous Ute troll is making allegations that may or may not be true and are irrelevant.

@cb - What are the names of the BYU fans from last year who said KVN was a first rounder? By fans, do you mean 2 of them, or millions of them? Did you even read the article before you commented? It is not a comparison to last year versus this year, which you would know if you had read it.

My personal opinion is that KVN's draft stock was better last year than this year, after his amazing Poinsetta Bowl, but I think he's a better player this year. Nobody knows when he would have been drafted last year or this year.

Let's celebrate accomplishment instead of mock it.

Samwise
Salt Lake City, UT

It will be interesting to see where they go. I fully expect them both to get playing time next year, regardless of what round they are drafted in. Good luck to them both. I enjoyed watching both of them during their time at BYU. Go Cougars!

ekute
Layton, UT

They're both NFL caliber. Good luck to them. Neither of their stocks went up from last year. Kyle was indebted to bronco and Cody just plain wasted a year.

MarkMAN
West Columbia, TX

CFTX,

Thank you.

Mark

Me, Myself and I
The Promised Land, UT

The one constant between BYU an Utah posts are trolls from both sides. Whats even more annoying than trolls are the fans who think they're not trolls calling the other side out while ignoring the same behavior from their own fan base. I am a Utah fan but I give credit where credit is due, Van Noy is a legit and although he didn't have as flashy a senior year as he did his junior year I think he made the right choice and will be a 1st round pick this year. Last year I think he could have slipped into the 2nd. Bottom line is he's gonna play in the NFL and I wish him a long, productive and healthy career.

U 90
Corona, CA

CFIT

Your inspiring comments to Chris B lead me to believe that you will no longer be posting negative comments about Utah basketball. Is that what you are saying?

evansrichdm
west jordan , UT

Dont care when either of them are drafted I plan to watch and cheer them on because they went to BYU, just like I will cheer for any NFL team with Utah players. It is great to see them grow as players here in Utah and then see them on the national stage.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@CougfaninTX:

Here is a gem I found from a deseret news article "Kyle Van Noy looking to savor senior season:

"If I was given the choice between KVN returning for his Senior season or getting the #1 high school recruit, I wouldn't even have to think about it. KVN is a difference maker. He almost single handedly beat SDSU, and he will do the same this year against other teams. He has a legit shot at the Butkus award and being a top 10 NFL pick next year. I'm really looking forward to him getting to know Travis Wilson this year. Go Cougs!:

The poster of that comment?

CougfaninTX

top 10 huh?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Cougfan,

And one more thing, how did that "getting to know Travis Wilson" thing go?

0-4 Super Bowl record for Van Noy!

SportsFan
Orem, UT

CB

KVN played in FOUR bowl games and enjoyed victories in THREE; that's TWICE as many bowls as Utah's seniors played in and infinitely more than Travis Wilson will ever play in.

Many scouts are still projecting KVN to be a Top 20 pick.

Unfortunately for Wilson, his football career is over. Even if he'd stayed healthy, however, he never would have made it in the NFL.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

How about news on other local guys practicing for the Senior Bowl, as well? Keith McGill has been one of the biggest stories of it so far, checking in as the tallest corner, running and dropping into coverage very fluidly, and Mike Mayock comparing him to Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman. Dixie State has a player playing in it. DIXIE STATE!! And he's currently a higher-rated tight end prospect than the draft eligible tight ends from Utah, BYU, or Utah State.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Kyle Van Noy - best linebacker in the 801 area code.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@cb - Thanks for keeping track on my comments. I stand by the comment I made a year ago. It reflects how I felt then. KVN is one of the best defensive players to come out of any Utah school. I wish you could acknowledge that instead of trying to mock his accomplishments because he played for BYU. This article is about a person, not the school.

@U90 - And yes I may occassionally post on Utah articles, but I've never mocked personal accomplishment like some Utah trolls do. I never try to minimize a Ute players accomplishment.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

CFiT: "KVN is one of the best defensive players to come out of any Utah school."

This is true. He's a very special, athletic player with instincts that you can't teach, but can only pray that a guy will have. But in my eyes, he did perform below expectations this year, and it wasn't just because he was accounted for by the opposing teams. Almost every game I watched, he almost played too fast for his own good, and didn't break down properly to make tackles. The Virginia and Washington games especially come to mind. Of course, this is something that can be coached and worked on, while his great instincts aren't. Fortunately, with the way the CBA works out now, if he does prove to be anywhere near the caliber of player in the NFL as he was in college (which I feel he probably will), any drop in draft grade he may have will not make much difference for his future. Best of luck to him, he was a worthy adversary for the Utes for years!

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