Mike in Cedar City said:"If we think we have come far in race
relations, maybe we need to look at how the country's first black president
has been treated."Mike, like a good liberal, the first thing you
notice about someone is their skin color. Oh no, it couldn’t be
Obama’s policies…it must be racism! Do you folks ever have a new
strategy?First, Obama is not "Black." He's half white
and half black.Secondly, Blacks only make up about 13-15% of the
American population. This means it took large numbers of WHITE voters to ensure
Obama was elected...TWICE! His skin color isn't the issue, his policies
that are destroying our country are. 93 million Americans out of work; He lied
to the nation about every aspect of Obamacare etc.The fact that
Obama came out this week sniveling that his plummeting job approval numbers were
the result of this nation being racist tells me it's desperation time among
the left. Sorry, but you folks on the left have used the race card one too many
times. Face facts, people are disgusted with this Marxist we call president,
not his skin color.
Open Minded Mormon,The "Find the Nazi" or "Who's the
Fascist" game you play so often gets us nowhere. I would hope you would
have learned this by now (you have tried it so many times).I can
make a list like yours that points our similarities radical-leftists have with
Nazis, Stalinist, Leninist, Marxist, and Fascist dictatorships too... but
I'm not going to go there. I know it's a useless political
rhetoric-game. I hope you can learn that someday.
Imagine an entire article talking about the changes made by Blacks, Jews,
the a young women.Everything minority group the Republican party keeps
leaving out. FYI -- The Nazi Holocaust targeted:Jews, minorities, illegal immigrants, Liberlas, Communists, Homosexuals, Abortion Doctors, andthe
homeless... Look at America, and then look to see who best
fits that discription as well.
We've got a way to go. Dr. King is just a mattress sale in Utah.
To correct the historical record:Hitler's views on Jews were
not religious but are steeped in personal disappointment (blaming the Jewish
people for the result of World War I, the loss of his mother and his failed art
career). They also didn't fit into his racial dogma of a super Aryan race.
Hitler could have cared less about the relationship of the Jewish people and
Christ and Christianity. He just took advantage of the present prejudices of
the time the general population had against the Jewish people for his political
gain. Hitler's own religious views are peculiar. He somewhat embraced pagan
viewpoints and wanted to make National Socialism a religion somewhat like how
Communists in the Soviet Union rejected organized religion for atheism. You
could not say Hitler was a Christian in anyway that we would understand
Thank you, JohnCohen. No, the Holocaust was not about faith. This attempt to
drag in the current talking point of "religious persecution" under the
guise of a respectful nod to MLK is...Let's just say it doesn't
respect the legacy of either Dr. King or Miss Frank.
I'm pleased we're celebrating the life and cause of Dr. Martin Luther
King. May we cease to judge a man by his skin color but rather the content of
his character. Race is a lousy predictor of behavior, success or results.
FT1/SS. Both MLK and Jackie Robinson made significant contributions to civil
rights, each in their respective spheres of influence. YOu are wrong to diminish
King's contribution because he employed non violent tactics that caused
government to enact civil right laws. It was government that finally destroyed
the NAZI oppression that killed Frank, not a professional baseball player. Robinson opened the doors to men of color in the area of professional
athletics. King was a major influence in giving men and women of color the
right to vote, the right to sit at any lunch counter the wanted, the right to
obtain an equal education, many more rights to long to list. King
paid for his activism with his life. Robinson was just paid.
If we think we have come far in race relations, maybe we need to look at how the
country's first black president has been treated.
They way I look at it is... they pointed us more in the correct direction, but
we still have a long way to go, and more direction corrections needed in the
future to get there. It may not be a straight line to where we need to get too
in order to fulfill their vision for humanity.===Brave
Sir Robin,The problem is... that we paint Conservatives with EITHER
brush.Painting Conservatives with either brush is about the same as
painting all black people as if they are all the same (using either the old OR
the new stereotypes).The problem isn't which stereotype we are
using... it's that we feel we need to see people as our stereotype for them
to begin with.All Conservatives don't think or act the same.
Same goes for all people. The sooner we learn that the better.
"Consider Anne Frank, who faced persecution, exile, starvation and death not
because of the color of her skin, but because of her faith."Wait
are you trying to say that if Anne Frank had converted to Christianity she would
have been spared her suffering in WWII? That premise is totally false. The
Holocaust had very little to do with religion and everything to do with race. It
was a racially motivated genocide.
@Irony GuyYou didn't specify but I'm betting your
conservative neighbor is also about 90 years old. Am I right?Conservatives are now in two separate camps: "Old conservatives" are
conservative financially (less spending, less tax), militarily (pro-foreign
war), and socially (don't like gays or other races). "New
conservatives" are conservative financially (less spending, less tax), but
are moderate to liberal militarily and socially. New conservatives want a
strong military for homeland defense but aren't keen on invading other
nations. New conservatives are also accepting of gays and other races.The problem now is everybody paints conservatives using the "old
conservative" brush, when the reality is today's young conservatives
disagree with the old conservatives when it comes to social issues. Fortunately
the old conservatives are dying off.
@ Irony Guy:First of all, why do you label your neighbor a
conservative? That insinuates you are liberal and perhaps trying to stir up some
political controversy... something MLK would not have wanted on the day
celebrating the ideals he embraced... or any other day for that matter. Secondly, most conservatives I know do not share your neighbors views.
At the same time, I know liberals who do. And with over 300 million people in
America, you can easily find a vast array of attitudes and feelings on every
conceivable topic and within every possible political persuasion. Also, there are always exceptions to almost everything positive and often with
motivations that are nearly impossible for the majority of people to relate to.
As such, don't let those very small groups with negative attitudes intrigue
you too much. Most are insignificant and unworthy of discussion. Ponder those concepts and it will help your understanding... per your request.
@Irony GuySome oppose the Anne Frank book because of passages about
sexuality. I'm going to assume that's the reasoning for your neighbor
having these views rather than anti-Semitism.As for MLK... well...
I'd blame the Ezra Taft Benson (only applies to Utah) anti-communist era
since the accusation was often that MLK was a commie. Remember all those
negative posts about Nelson Mandela? Basically something similar to that.
Irony,My liberal neighbors all tell me Doctor King was against
discrimination based on race.And then they say its discrimination
when a white person is given a job/college admission over a black person due to
the fact the white person is white and the black person is black. But then they
tell me its not discrimination to give a black person a job/college admission
over a white person due to the fact the black person is black and the white
person is white. Can you help me out with this?
My conservative neighbor doesn't like either King or Anne Frank. He says
King was evil and the Anne Frank diary should be banned from the schools.
I'm not sure what motivates these views. Can anyone out there help me with
@ get her done:George Romney died decades ago. Stapley also died a
long time ago. You are talking about old events. Times and circumstances have
changed significantly since then. This article is more about recent attitudes to
the ideals of 2 society icons. Many important things have evolved in
positive directions from the time period you are bringing up. As such, your
subject matter is now irrelevant and yes, the article is indeed correct.
@USAlover"have not assimilated to American culture."American is just codeword for white when used that way...
@ Dixie Dan:What difference does it make how long any state took to
recognize MLK? The simple fact that is important is that it is now
recognized. It seems you are trying to be negative and inimical on a
day when MLK would want just the opposite. Give such things a rest and focus on
the positives of what today is now supposed to represent.
Church apostle on topic. Stapley, apostle, letter to George Romney on blacks
does not indicate article is correct.
If the reverend was around, I'd like to ask him one question: 50 years
later, the majority of black people still live in poverty and have not
assimilated to American culture.WHY?
It's very fitting that both Martin Luther King, Jr. and Anne Frank should
be mentioned together. Dr. King spoke out against those who oppressed because
of race. Miss Frank spoke out against those who oppressed because of religion
and ethnic background. Many people were beaten and killed because of race.
6,000,000 were killed because they were Jews. Would Dr. King be
offended that we remember those 6,000,000 Jews on "his" holiday? Was
that what his message was all about? Did he ask us to "honor" him, to
"worship" him, to "glorify" him with a national holiday; or, did
he have a dream where all people were treated with respect and no person was
better than any other person because of race, religion or ethnic background?I think he would be pleased to be remembered with Anne Frank. I think
that he would have spoken kindly of her and respected her message. I think that
he would want everyone to remember everyone who has been oppressed, including
the 6,000,000 Jews who were killed.
On Martin Luther King day, let's try to stay focused on Martin Luther King
and the struggle for civil/equal rights. There is no need to bring in Anne
Frank or any other hero/heroine.
Its appalling that some people who profess to support Dr. King's mission
now tell the world its not only ok, but admirable to treat people based on the
color of their skin and discriminate against others based on the color of their
skin for things like college admission and job applications. Dr.
King would be disgusted by such actions that discriminate based on race.
Jackie Robinson's legacy and result's in civils rights, are far
greater (and civil) than MLK's. Baseball and the other sports made a more
positive impact within the country without govt. interference. The govt.,
democrats, naacp, and race baitors from those groups have twisted, divided, and
distorted MLK's legacy for their own gain.
Why did it take Utah being the 49th state to approve Martin Luther King Day?