To: Kelley, of Spanish Fork, 8:55 AM, on 1/20/14----Q: What were
you referring to when you stated that Josh Boren's "...past [came] back
to bite him.." ??I'm NOT asking you to reveal confidential
or personal secrets of Josh's; but since YOU publicly mentioned issues from
his "past", there must be other commonly-known facts "in the public
domain", which the press has chosen not to publish.So, while
being sensitive to the victim's memory... what were you referring to?
I am hugely saddened at the loss of life in this tragedy. It is always so sad
to see when lives are taken, and children especially so. Emotions run high, and
caring people make statements that usually they would not. Can I please remind
those who comment that members of both families may well read what you write.
Please be mindful of their feelings. Surely, gun-laws are better discussed at
other times, and in other places.None of us know the state of mind
of Josh Boren at the time this happened. None of us know what was in his heart.
Please let us leave judgement to the Lord. One of my sons is a Policeman in
the UK, and I know he experiences many horrendous things. Different people
cope in different ways. Some share feelings with those that are close, and some
are not built that way. I will not judge this young man unkindly. My heart
goes out to both families, and my prayers go Heavenward for them. I have faith
and trust that there is a God in heaven, and that he judges fairly, and with
total knowledge. Please trust His Judgement. Ours is not needed.
@IronyIf you think it's bad that law abiding citizens have the
right to bear arms, wait until they don't! See places where guns have been
removed and violent crimes actually INCREASE. My heart goes out to all affected
by this tragedy. May the prince of peace provide you with comfort during this
Too many people here being so judgemental. Seems like everyone thinks they know
it all. Let's pray for peace for all the families involved and let the
greater one be the judge..
How much simpler would life be if "good" people always did good or if
"bad" people always did bad. It's sad that this is not the case.
The confusion resulting from this truth becomes nearly unbearable when those we
know to be incredibly good mess up in horribly inconceivable ways. I've
been forced to learn, through incredibly painful means, a couple things in the
last 12 months: first, it's very possible for an incredibly good person to
make choices that can inflict seemingly unbearable pain on those they love the
most. Also: depression lies. It lies to the point that we can often believe
with absolute certainty that things will never be good or fixable or tolerable
again. It can even convince us that death is the only merciful escape.If
I believed in a God, and these are the moments I wish I did, I would pray for
peace for the Boren family. But since I can't, all I can offer is my own
personal hope, along with the knowledge that most of us are defined by much more
than our best and worst choices.
Such sadness is in my heart for friends and extended family members. It's
difficult to find words. Nothing justifies the horrible action of what this man
did. What caused him to do this heinous thing? I know for sure the Mother and
her two children are in the hands of God and I absolutely wouldn't want to
be in the shoes of the husband/father who took their innocent lives..there is a
penalty for murder in heaven. This is heartbreaking.
To those defending and excusing the actions of the person who committed the
murders I would say that it isn't necessary. Nobody that has good in them
could do this to their own innocent children.
Considering the perpetrator's size, it could have just as easily been a
knife, a baseball bat, or a rope. All those forms would have involved a much
greater degree of terror. Rather than indict an inanimate object, let's all
just hold our loved ones closer and cherish our time together more dearly.
@Irony GuyMay I respectfully submit that this is not a result of
"Utah gun culture." Tragic situations like this occur throughout the
world. The Connecticut, Colorado, African mall and other shootings occurred
outside of Utah. The Boston Marathon bombings did not involve guns. The problem is the mindset of people to resort to violence when they cannot
handle their lives. Gun registration and removing guns from those who are
mentally impaired (albeit an improbable task) would presumably lessen the
possibility of these imaginable incidents.Sympathies to the families
and friends who mourn the loss of this family.
Two Utah families this week are victims of the Utah gun culture. Something has
to be done to stop this ongoing crisis.
Very saddened by this tragedy and pray comfort for the friends and family. One
never knows when something like this may happen. Because of his job I'm
wondering if this may not have been a staged murder by criminals who had revenge
on their mind. Are the investigators sure it was Josh that killed everyone?
I wonder if his steroid use contributed to the murders? Using steroids will lead
to mindless rage. The same mindless rage that was necessary in order to murder
his family. Lets not make excuses or blame this on the police. Millions of cops
perform their duties just fine and are still able to raise their families and
otherwise function in society. Sympathy towards the family. Stress or a failing
marriage are never good reasons to commit murder.
The neighborhood is in mourning, but we are surviving and thinking of ways to
help our children understand. All five are being mourned. Josh is remembered
as a good neighbor, always willing to lend a hand. Between his past coming back
to bite him and his marriage troubles, plus the stress of living with his
mother-in-law in the house, he broke. Why he broke in this way I don't
understand, but from researching it, someone who commits a murder-suicide fits
the profile of someone who is suicidal and depressed, not someone who is
murderous. It's usually a male, and rarely pre-meditated. I've spoken
to a member of his extended family, and they think he killed the children to
protect them from the kind of nightmares he had to face. I am very grateful that
it's the Lord doing the judging; He knows Josh's heart.
We've seen this before when marriage come to an end. Jealousy and rage
over a partner that moves on causes crazy things to happen.
Law enforcement is like the military. You are taught that showing emotion or
seeking professional help is a sign of weakness will jeopardize your career.
What a needless tragedy.
There are no words. I am so sorry for the families and friends affected by this
horrible tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with you for peace and