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Published: Sunday, Jan. 19 2014 5:00 a.m. MST

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uwishtoo
MESA, AZ

My father lost his job when I was 16. He had been with the company for over 25 years. His pension was gone, his stock investments in the company also gone. I really didn't understand the impact of losing a secure job in your 50's until I got older myself. I look back and now feel a little guilt that I really never worried about anything. Luckily for my family my father had always put money away in other places so he had other 401 K's and stock plans. I remember vividly getting a phone call from someone else in his company on a Friday evening while mom and dad were out having dinner. The guy called to warn my father that the company was calling all employees via Western Union to inform them of the closing of the business. My father didn't get his official call until sometime on Sunday afternoon. By that time he had already been contacted by 4 other companies wanting to offer him a job. He was in the top 10 salesman's positions in the country for his industry so he never had to resort to really hard times. RIP Daddy, so proud of you

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Great story. Economic hard times make some people better and others lose hope and give up.

Pssst
LOGAN, UT

Hard to imagine you could work 20 hours a day, go to and from work, and take even one meal for more than two or three days and survive sickness or worse. When would you sleep? If these details are completely free from hyperbole, I think it was unwise, heroic though it sounds. On the other foot, it certainly confirms the wisdom of having about three months money laid aside for such contingencies wherever humanly possible.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

What would you say to families who pray and their situation never gets better? How is god answering their prayers?

Marie Ferguson
Glenning Valley, Australia, NSW

I would like to reply to PSSST. I can understand where you can have to work 20 hours a day to keep your family with a roof over their headS. We were in the opposite position where we had so much work leading up to the Sydney Olympics, working in the construction industry, we worked a lot of 19 hours a day, six days a week for a year. My husband could not refuse work, even when I asked him not to take on work, he insisted as he did not want to let people down. So very little sleep, but we had the Sabbath, no work done, no office work, just concentrated on the Sabbath and trying to have a rest in the afternoon, if there was no home or visiting teaching. I commend the father who did this for his family, better than going on the dole and what a wonderful lesson to teach to his children the benefits of looking after your family. We were blessed, we paid out our mortgage and have since been debt free.

flatlander
Omaha, NE

I understand the theme of his story and glad his mom got to stay home, but maybe part time work would have helped the family more. Due to medical issues my dad, my mom and myself (all through high school) had to work and we learned a lot about life. No regrets.

Brent T. Aurora CO
Aurora, CO

Brahmabull -- really? A great little story and you had go there?

On a personal level I appreciate this story having lived a year (97) where I stayed at work sometimes weeks 24 hours a day, grabbing 10-minute cap naps, driving at night... as well as years that followed where it was rare to string more than 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Missed a lot -- kids growing up, church service, life's little moments... a haze... but the kids remember all kinds of stuff (kinda fun to hear)... self sufficiency, paying the bills, getting out of debt, means for generosity... the joy of working hard.

Am told many times repeated how industrious and reliable our four children are anywhere they are employed... they constantly rise to the top. We all know how to stretch a dollar, how to appreciate what we have... an understanding of needs, wants, ignoring fads and whims... lessons learned through adversity were the answers from God.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

This was a hard working man and, like the writer, I am also glad that he did not fall asleep at the wheel of his truck, a real and disastrous possibility.

"The job was a good job; it paid well and had given our family financial security for the entire 11 years that I had been alive." QUOTE

There were indeed some good lessons learned by this family. It was not money, as the writer says, that brought happiness. The above quoted statement, though, tells us that Dad had a well-paid job for eleven years that brought "financial security" for that period. Financial security could have been assured beyond that time, though, by the recommended practice of saving ten percent of gross income, providing more than a year's additional income at the same level and perhaps two years or more at a modified level of expenditure.

A good moral was learned and here's another: Usually the good times do not last for ever. Make hay while the sun shines (winter fodder for the gloomy unproductive days). Put something away for a "rainy day". I assume these sayings derive from the old agricultural times but apply today.

kargirl
Sacramento, CA

I'm glad they were all blessed with good enough health that they didn't need to seek medical assistance or go without and endanger their health, and possibly the well-being or life of any family member. Some are not so fortunate.

pat1
Taylorsville, UT

These problems are still happening today. We have a family member who lost his job right before Thanksgiving and is still looking.

Another family had job problems before and during the economic downturn. Men have always been vulnerable in their 50s and women are now becoming vulnerable. Such problems, especially when they recur, are very hard on a family.

I agree with all the others who wonder about those who weren't able to find work or families in which the mother had to return to work. There are many of those around. Lessons abound when out of work. They are very hard things to go through.

Christmas Carole
LAS CRUCES, NM

@Brahmabull
Hon, haven't remembered enough of your post to know if you REALLY want an answer to your ?. If you do: My kids/I have experienced things that nightmares are often made of. My kids' would have been avoided/lessened had I learned what God wanted me to earlier. There were MANY times after my conversion in early 70's when I thought"Where's God?". I have told my kids that my trials are the best of the worst. I FINALLY learned some important lessons by age 57. I have ALWAYS striven from within to the BEST of my ability to live the Gospel. Even after my learned lessons my life is still survival day by day. I am helped enough to make it, when needed. HE LOVES US!! He is incapable of allowing ANYTHING in our lives unless it is for our good. Our lives ARE tailor made by our Loving Heavenly Father. I AM THANKFUL for my trials(I cannot and may never pray for them as they are abundantly given!)!! Search your heart and realize that Father can ONLY LOVE you!

antodav
TAMPA, FL

Several scriptures from both the Bible and the Book of Mormon come to mind here. But the truth is, money CAN in fact make you sad, or happy—depending on how you use it. It is all about how you arrange your priorities in life. That is the key to happiness no matter how much money you have.

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