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BYU basketball: Cougars break through on road, beat USF, 83-76

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  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 11:08 p.m.

    @duckhunter

    Who cares? They lost like everyone knew they would.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 3:41 p.m.

    motorbike also fails to mention that 3 of BYU's road losses are to top 10 teams. That's right TOP 10. But hey if he thinks it was going to make his point, and he thought no one would call him on it so he could get away with it, then why not throw it out there? lol

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 18, 2014 1:16 p.m.

    BoSox4

    It's laughable that a Utah fan would even squeak about SOS when the Utes played the 350th worst non-conference schedule in the country, while BYU was playing the 4th best non-conference schedule.

    Unlike football, the non-conference games aren't an insignificant portion of the schedule - 12 of 30 games is 40% of the season.

    #37 BYU beat #103 San Francisco on the road
    #150 Utah beat #97 USC at home

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 7:42 a.m.

    motorbike

    Those three road losses by 2 and 3 point margins were some nice moral victories, huh? Thanks for reminding us.

    It's funny how moral victories work for Ute fans but don't apply for Y fans in football or any other sport.

  • BoSox4 St. George, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    Actually Santa Clara is 10-10 according to ESPN's standings, so you should probably triple check your sources first bud. Congrats on a win against San Francisco though, who is next? Santa Clara? Man I wish the Utes were in the WCC, oh well...

  • Gregorio Norco, CA
    Jan. 17, 2014 4:20 p.m.

    Great second half BYU. Way to hang in there with the defense in a hostile environment. I did hear alot of shouts for BYU from the crowd of 2,100. Wonder how many paying customers we BYU fans brought into the building?
    Very impressive road win and road attendance by the fan base BYU has built up with winning programs of many sports.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 3:58 p.m.

    @motorbike

    So neutral site games are really home games even though they aren't at home? I notice you ignored the ones BYU played in KC against some top 25 competition. Hmmmmmmm...... now why would you do that? But of course I wasn't "rubbing" anything in, I was reading an article about BYU's road win last night and a utah "fan" came along to try and tell everyone that utah as an "argument" to be a better road team because they lost all of their 3 whopping road games whereas BYU has won several of theirs. I just thought I'd roll with the conversation, maybe see if I could put a little bit of reality and and critical thought into it.

    Carry on, you're doing a great job here.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 3:20 p.m.

    Duckhunter,

    I didn't call Utah a better road team than BYU, I simply said one could make an argument, meaning BYU fans sound hilarious when they make fun of Utah's road woes. The reason for this was very clearly put out there for you. BYU has some road wins, which Utah is lacking, but they also have 3 losses that are worse than the 3 Utah has suffered.

    Moving forward Utah will play a ton of tough road games and will ultimately finish with a much harder road schedule than BYU will play this year. If Utah continues to lose them all, then by all means feel free to rub it in.

    And no Ducky, neutral court games are absolutely NOT road games ... especially games against USU at Energy Solutions Arena. Lets be honest, USU does not have NEAR the advantage BYU has when they play away from the Spectrum in Logan.

    Did I mention how nice it is to have you back among us? That loss must have really stung. I'd say I told you so, but then I know you already know that.

  • Sandpiper Air Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 2:26 p.m.

    Jax was just filling in last night. We need to petition KSL to bring him back.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 1:39 p.m.

    @motorbike

    So the team that has not ever won a road game is a better road team than the team that has won road games? Plus BYU has won some neutral site games, yes those aren't at home motortrike they are on the road. utah on the otherhand has played all of 3 road games all year, and lost them all. Congratulations? I think I get your point though, what a team should do is not schedule any more than 1 road game ooc and that way if they lose it by a claose margin they can call themselves a better road team than the team that played half its ooc away from home. Makes perfect sense. lol

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    This is a huge win over a very prestigeous team.

    We should be ranked in the top 20 now.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    hobbes1012003

    "@Cougsndawgs, I copied that direct from ESPN's BYU page. I realized after i posted it that the ESPN page wasnt up to date for some reason. My foot has been placed firmly in my mouth."

    Apology accepted.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 12:43 p.m.

    Duckhunter

    "And one was at home, the only place one of those teams ever wins, and one was on the road, the place where that same team never wins. So-o-o-o-o-o...reality check?"

    Step out of the blue haze for a minute...

    UTAH on the road:

    BSU - LOSS... by 2 points - RPI 59
    Washington - LOSS... by 2 points - RPI 75
    Washington State - LOSS... by 3 points - RPI 126

    BYU on the road:

    Stanford - WIN... by 9 - RPI 59
    San Francisco - WIN... by 7 - RPI 103
    Oregon - LOSS... by 4 - RPI 21
    Utah - LOSS... by 17 - RPI 151
    Loyola Marymount - LOSS... by 11 - RPI 149
    Pepperdine - LOSS... by 6 - RPI 129

    While BYU has won a whopping two road games, one could easily argue BYU is a worse road team than Utah. Not to mention BYUs marquee win was Stanford's second game of the year (almost lost to Bucknell in game one) and they had just learned they'd be without their star player.

    BYU has three worse losses (RPI and points) than the 3 losses on Utah's record. So yeah, there's your reality check.

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs,

    I copied that direct from ESPN's BYU page. I realized after i posted it that the ESPN page wasnt up to date for some reason. My foot has been placed firmly in my mouth.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Jan. 17, 2014 12:11 p.m.

    Interesting watching fans from two mediocre teams verbally abuse each other and their conferences. Current AP poll has no WCC team in top 25 and while PAC 12 has three, Utah won't beat them. So rail on if it makes you feel good.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    "More obscure than West Alabama, Howard, CSU Bakersfield, Long Beach State and Cal State whoever?"

    jakrus:

    Yep. How about this?
    Mt. St. Mary's, Mesa College; Chaminade, Bryant U., South Alabama, Marist, La Sierra (twice), Menlo College, San Diego Christian (twice), Green Bay, Houston Baptist, Pacifica, Notre Dame Calif. (who knew?), Sonoma State and Bethesda.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    @motorbike

    And one was at home, the only place one of those teams ever wins, and one was on the road, the place where that same team never wins. So-o-o-o-o-o...reality check?

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    jarka-rus

    "Reality check , USC is not a good bball team..."

    Well according to the RPI rankings - the end all be all according to BYU fans - USC may not be a "good bball team" but they're better than San Francisco. So-o-o-o-o-o... reality check?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    @JohnInSLC
    More obscure than West Alabama, Howard, CSU Bakersfield, Long Beach State and Cal State whoever?

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    Samwise

    "...but just found it humorous that you were using total number of teams when comparing conferences with different amounts of teams."

    Uhhhh, that was exactly the point. It's easier to have 100% of your teams at or above .500 if you have less teams than other conferences. And for "Down under" to use that stat to suggest it's some incredible feat versus where the PAC 12 sits ... well that's just laughable. Again ... 11 of 12 teams above .500 with one team at one game under. Not to mention three ranked teams, with one holding down the number spot for several weeks now. The WCC? Zero ranked teams.

    Sorry, just keeping things under control for guys like "Down under." Outside of that do I really care? Nope ... I just want my Utes to keep improving, that's about it.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:06 a.m.

    Such an impressive victory over a team with such a large, hostile crowd!

    Very impressive, indeed!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2014 11:02 a.m.

    Ute fans crying over comments about RPI and rankings. Yet you're on here spouting off about attendance? LOL!! Reality check , USC is not a good bball team no matter if they have more than 2,000 in attendance.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 10:45 a.m.

    Sorry, but rating or comparing conferences is way down on the list. When two teams play they seldom view it as a conference v conference battle, hubristic advertisements by the WCC and PAC12 notwithstanding. BYU's nice road win was over U of San Francisco. Leave it at that.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 10:45 a.m.

    "the WCC [is one of] the only conferences in the country in which no team has a losing record."

    Sandlyclaw:

    Funny! That sterling record has been earned against teams that are even more obscure than the schools on Utah's schedule that y "fans" love to belittle.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 10:27 a.m.

    Motorbike,

    You can count to 11, that is good. But you can't realize the problem with comparing total teams over .500 in a conference with 12 members to a conference with 10 members. This is more accurate: 100% of WCC teams are at or above .500, 90% are above .500. 91.67% of Pac 12 teams are at or above .500 (the same amount for above .500). I don't think this really means anything really significant, but just found it humorous that you were using total number of teams when comparing conferences with different amounts of teams.

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    The announced crowd of 2,137. I bet the 37 San Francisco fans on hand went home very disappointed.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    Hobbes:
    I don't know what you're looking at, but BYU is 12-7 now...they were 10-7 last week. I think you're missing records for this week...Sat & Thursday results.

  • Sandyclaws Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 9:56 a.m.

    The Big 12 and the WCC are the only conferences in the country in which no team has a losing record.

    Go Cougs!

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    Jax Emery on KSL Radio, is he on every game from now on? If it is true then I am switching to that station from now on and who wants to listen to espn guys which some are okay but others are some homers. Nice win and keep it up and I hope it didn't effect on my 49ers this Sunday if we win out in this wcc Bay Area.

  • Missouri Coug Greenwood, MO
    Jan. 17, 2014 7:44 a.m.

    What did I tell you....FREE THROWS WIN THE BIG GAMES....Come on coaches...keep the boys "after School" until they can make at least nine out of ten free throws before they go to the showers.
    The FREE THROW is the most under-rated shot in basketball, but the most important one.....Keep watching T. Haws guys, and take a lesson in FREE THROW shooting.....Their "money in the BANK'...Get it?? Go Cougs.....

  • Flames6 North Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 7:41 a.m.

    Just read both aticles about the BYU and Utes games. Nice wins by both teams tonight but here's an observation. There are more comments from Y fans on the Utes article than there are here and from more different posters. Who's obsessed with who ?

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Jan. 17, 2014 6:09 a.m.

    I'm not sure it qualifies as a road win with only about 2000 fans there.

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 17, 2014 1:44 a.m.

    @Motorbike

    Im not sure where you are getting your info from but Santa Clara is 10-8. here is a direct copy of ESPN.coms conference standings for the WCC.

    TEAM CONF GB OVR
    #22 Gonzaga 4-1 -- 14-3
    San Francisco 4-1 -- 11-6
    Pepperdine 3-2 1 10-7
    Santa Clara 3-2 1 10-8
    Saint Mary's 2-2 1.5 12-5
    Brigham Young 2-2 1.5 10-7
    Loyola Marymount 2-3 2 10-7
    Portland 2-3 2 10-7
    San Diego 1-3 2.5 10-7
    Pacific 0-4 3.5 9-6

    You might want to check facts before you fact check someone else. plus this story about the WCC being only one of 2 conference that can boast the above .500 stat was brought up by the ESPN commentators. Are you going to fact check those guys as well?

  • Tom in Tooele Franklin, IN
    Jan. 17, 2014 12:01 a.m.

    All 2100 fans at the game were extremely excited, like me!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2014 11:38 p.m.

    Confident, successful programs don't have to use conference affiliation as a crutch to define themselves.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 16, 2014 11:35 p.m.

    actually enjoy most all of your posts... But I think that you are wrong on this one... At the time that the Broadcasters made the comment Santa Clara was 10-9... They lost by 3 tonight and so they are 10-10 now... So the correct comment would be ( at this moment)that the WCC is only one of two conferences that has no teams below .500...

    WSU could have made that claim before their game with Stanford thanks to the utes but now you're right, they are only one game below .500 till they play California this weekend... again, thanks to the utes.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 16, 2014 10:59 p.m.

    Foul shooting saved the game.

    Otherwise, how could the Cougs overcome those 2,700 fans???

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 16, 2014 10:36 p.m.

    Down under,

    "...the WCC is only one of two conferences where every team is over .500. Pretty impressive. I wonder if any other team in the state could say that about their conference?"

    Actually not every team in the WCC is over .500, Santa Clara is 10-10. So to answer your question, no team in the state can say that about their conference, including BYU.

    Additionally, The Pac 12 actually has 11 teams over .500 while the WCC has 9. Only one Pac 12 team is below .500, that team is WSU at 8-9 ... a whopping one game under.

    So you were bragging about what again?

  • 93 COUGAR Orem, UT
    Jan. 16, 2014 10:08 p.m.

    Good win on the road. Nice to see some much improved FT shooting. Good 2nd half for the team.

    Go Cougars!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 16, 2014 10:05 p.m.

    Another good defensive game, but the Cougars got rocked on the boards. Their big men pretty much owned our big men. Mika needs a lot of work on his defense and needs to resist putting the ball on the floor every time he touches it.

    Very pleased with Carlino's play. Played well within his game, made good decisions, played good defense, and knocked down big shots. I really think he is starting to figure it out. Carlino really is the key to this team's success. As he goes, so goes the team.

    All in all, a very good and important win for the cougars.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:41 p.m.

    Huge win. That's one. Now look to the next game and get that one. Hard work paid off tonight.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:41 p.m.

    Road wins are always tough. Good start to a 4-game road swing that could make or break BYU's WCC and NCAA chances.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:35 p.m.

    Way to go Cougs. Nice win against a quality team on the road. 5 players in double figures. The WCC is a tough conference. ESPN reports that the WCC is only one of two conferences where every team is over .500. Pretty impressive. I wonder if any other team in the state could say that about their conference?

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:33 p.m.

    Cougars need to work on defense while keeping the big men out of foul trouble, but congrats to the Cougars for the road win, hope they can keep it up!

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:31 p.m.

    Whew! Hard-fought win. These USF guys always play tough. Jax Emery did a great job as color commentator in the KSL call with Greg Wrubell. I like Mark Durrant a lot too, but Jackson had a lot of insights due to recent playing history.

    Gooo Cougars!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    Free Throw shooting 75% tonight. Cougars win!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Jan. 16, 2014 9:21 p.m.

    Great win for the cougars. Carlino off the bench is working out really well, I love his confidence right now. It looks like Mika still has a little rust but it's great to see him back in the lineup. Go Cougs!