@duckhunterWho cares? They lost like everyone knew they would.
motorbike also fails to mention that 3 of BYU's road losses are to top 10
teams. That's right TOP 10. But hey if he thinks it was going to make his
point, and he thought no one would call him on it so he could get away with it,
then why not throw it out there? lol
BoSox4It's laughable that a Utah fan would even squeak about
SOS when the Utes played the 350th worst non-conference schedule in the country,
while BYU was playing the 4th best non-conference schedule.Unlike
football, the non-conference games aren't an insignificant portion of the
schedule - 12 of 30 games is 40% of the season.#37 BYU beat #103 San
Francisco on the road #150 Utah beat #97 USC at home
motorbikeThose three road losses by 2 and 3 point margins were some
nice moral victories, huh? Thanks for reminding us.It's funny
how moral victories work for Ute fans but don't apply for Y fans in
football or any other sport.
Actually Santa Clara is 10-10 according to ESPN's standings, so you should
probably triple check your sources first bud. Congrats on a win against San
Francisco though, who is next? Santa Clara? Man I wish the Utes were in the WCC,
Great second half BYU. Way to hang in there with the defense in a hostile
environment. I did hear alot of shouts for BYU from the crowd of 2,100. Wonder
how many paying customers we BYU fans brought into the building?Very
impressive road win and road attendance by the fan base BYU has built up with
winning programs of many sports.
@motorbikeSo neutral site games are really home games even though
they aren't at home? I notice you ignored the ones BYU played in KC against
some top 25 competition. Hmmmmmmm...... now why would you do that? But of course
I wasn't "rubbing" anything in, I was reading an article about
BYU's road win last night and a utah "fan" came along to try and
tell everyone that utah as an "argument" to be a better road team
because they lost all of their 3 whopping road games whereas BYU has won several
of theirs. I just thought I'd roll with the conversation, maybe see if I
could put a little bit of reality and and critical thought into it. Carry on, you're doing a great job here.
Duckhunter,I didn't call Utah a better road team than BYU, I
simply said one could make an argument, meaning BYU fans sound hilarious when
they make fun of Utah's road woes. The reason for this was very clearly put
out there for you. BYU has some road wins, which Utah is lacking, but they also
have 3 losses that are worse than the 3 Utah has suffered.Moving
forward Utah will play a ton of tough road games and will ultimately finish with
a much harder road schedule than BYU will play this year. If Utah continues to
lose them all, then by all means feel free to rub it in. And no
Ducky, neutral court games are absolutely NOT road games ... especially games
against USU at Energy Solutions Arena. Lets be honest, USU does not have NEAR
the advantage BYU has when they play away from the Spectrum in Logan.Did I mention how nice it is to have you back among us? That loss must have
really stung. I'd say I told you so, but then I know you already know that.
Jax was just filling in last night. We need to petition KSL to bring him back.
@motorbikeSo the team that has not ever won a road game is a better
road team than the team that has won road games? Plus BYU has won some neutral
site games, yes those aren't at home motortrike they are on the road. utah
on the otherhand has played all of 3 road games all year, and lost them all.
Congratulations? I think I get your point though, what a team should do is not
schedule any more than 1 road game ooc and that way if they lose it by a claose
margin they can call themselves a better road team than the team that played
half its ooc away from home. Makes perfect sense. lol
This is a huge win over a very prestigeous team.We should be ranked
in the top 20 now.
hobbes1012003"@Cougsndawgs, I copied that direct from
ESPN's BYU page. I realized after i posted it that the ESPN page wasnt up
to date for some reason. My foot has been placed firmly in my mouth."Apology accepted.
Duckhunter"And one was at home, the only place one of those
teams ever wins, and one was on the road, the place where that same team never
wins. So-o-o-o-o-o...reality check?"Step out of the blue haze
for a minute...UTAH on the road:BSU - LOSS... by 2
points - RPI 59Washington - LOSS... by 2 points - RPI 75Washington
State - LOSS... by 3 points - RPI 126 BYU on the road:Stanford - WIN... by 9 - RPI 59San Francisco - WIN... by 7 - RPI 103Oregon - LOSS... by 4 - RPI 21Utah - LOSS... by 17 - RPI 151Loyola
Marymount - LOSS... by 11 - RPI 149Pepperdine - LOSS... by 6 - RPI 129While BYU has won a whopping two road games, one could easily argue BYU
is a worse road team than Utah. Not to mention BYUs marquee win was
Stanford's second game of the year (almost lost to Bucknell in game one)
and they had just learned they'd be without their star player.BYU has three worse losses (RPI and points) than the 3 losses on Utah's
record. So yeah, there's your reality check.
@Cougsndawgs,I copied that direct from ESPN's BYU page. I
realized after i posted it that the ESPN page wasnt up to date for some reason.
My foot has been placed firmly in my mouth.
Interesting watching fans from two mediocre teams verbally abuse each other and
their conferences. Current AP poll has no WCC team in top 25 and while PAC 12
has three, Utah won't beat them. So rail on if it makes you feel good.
"More obscure than West Alabama, Howard, CSU Bakersfield, Long Beach State
and Cal State whoever?"jakrus:Yep. How about this?
Mt. St. Mary's, Mesa College; Chaminade, Bryant U., South Alabama,
Marist, La Sierra (twice), Menlo College, San Diego Christian (twice), Green
Bay, Houston Baptist, Pacifica, Notre Dame Calif. (who knew?), Sonoma State and
@motorbikeAnd one was at home, the only place one of those teams
ever wins, and one was on the road, the place where that same team never wins.
jarka-rus"Reality check , USC is not a good bball
team..."Well according to the RPI rankings - the end all be all
according to BYU fans - USC may not be a "good bball team" but
they're better than San Francisco. So-o-o-o-o-o... reality check?
@JohnInSLCMore obscure than West Alabama, Howard, CSU Bakersfield, Long
Beach State and Cal State whoever?
Samwise"...but just found it humorous that you were using total
number of teams when comparing conferences with different amounts of
teams."Uhhhh, that was exactly the point. It's easier to
have 100% of your teams at or above .500 if you have less teams than other
conferences. And for "Down under" to use that stat to suggest it's
some incredible feat versus where the PAC 12 sits ... well that's just
laughable. Again ... 11 of 12 teams above .500 with one team at one game under.
Not to mention three ranked teams, with one holding down the number spot for
several weeks now. The WCC? Zero ranked teams.Sorry, just keeping
things under control for guys like "Down under." Outside of that do I
really care? Nope ... I just want my Utes to keep improving, that's about
Such an impressive victory over a team with such a large, hostile crowd!Very impressive, indeed!
Ute fans crying over comments about RPI and rankings. Yet you're on here
spouting off about attendance? LOL!! Reality check , USC is not a good bball
team no matter if they have more than 2,000 in attendance.
Sorry, but rating or comparing conferences is way down on the list. When two
teams play they seldom view it as a conference v conference battle, hubristic
advertisements by the WCC and PAC12 notwithstanding. BYU's nice road win
was over U of San Francisco. Leave it at that.
"the WCC [is one of] the only conferences in the country in which no team
has a losing record."Sandlyclaw:Funny! That sterling
record has been earned against teams that are even more obscure than the schools
on Utah's schedule that y "fans" love to belittle.
Motorbike,You can count to 11, that is good. But you can't
realize the problem with comparing total teams over .500 in a conference with 12
members to a conference with 10 members. This is more accurate: 100% of WCC
teams are at or above .500, 90% are above .500. 91.67% of Pac 12 teams are at or
above .500 (the same amount for above .500). I don't think this really
means anything really significant, but just found it humorous that you were
using total number of teams when comparing conferences with different amounts of
The announced crowd of 2,137. I bet the 37 San Francisco fans on hand went home
Hobbes:I don't know what you're looking at, but BYU is 12-7
now...they were 10-7 last week. I think you're missing records for this
week...Sat & Thursday results.
The Big 12 and the WCC are the only conferences in the country in which no team
has a losing record.Go Cougs!
Jax Emery on KSL Radio, is he on every game from now on? If it is true then I am
switching to that station from now on and who wants to listen to espn guys which
some are okay but others are some homers. Nice win and keep it up and I hope it
didn't effect on my 49ers this Sunday if we win out in this wcc Bay Area.
What did I tell you....FREE THROWS WIN THE BIG GAMES....Come on coaches...keep
the boys "after School" until they can make at least nine out of ten
free throws before they go to the showers.The FREE THROW is the most
under-rated shot in basketball, but the most important one.....Keep watching T.
Haws guys, and take a lesson in FREE THROW shooting.....Their "money in the
BANK'...Get it?? Go Cougs.....
Just read both aticles about the BYU and Utes games. Nice wins by both teams
tonight but here's an observation. There are more comments from Y fans on
the Utes article than there are here and from more different posters.
Who's obsessed with who ?
I'm not sure it qualifies as a road win with only about 2000 fans there.
@MotorbikeIm not sure where you are getting your info from but Santa
Clara is 10-8. here is a direct copy of ESPN.coms conference standings for the
WCC.TEAM CONF GB OVR #22 Gonzaga 4-1 -- 14-3 San
Francisco 4-1 -- 11-6 Pepperdine 3-2 1 10-7 Santa Clara 3-2 1 10-8
Saint Mary's 2-2 1.5 12-5 Brigham Young 2-2 1.5 10-7 Loyola Marymount 2-3 2 10-7 Portland 2-3 2 10-7 San Diego 1-3 2.5
10-7 Pacific 0-4 3.5 9-6 You might want to check facts before
you fact check someone else. plus this story about the WCC being only one of 2
conference that can boast the above .500 stat was brought up by the ESPN
commentators. Are you going to fact check those guys as well?
All 2100 fans at the game were extremely excited, like me!
Confident, successful programs don't have to use conference affiliation as
a crutch to define themselves.
actually enjoy most all of your posts... But I think that you are wrong on this
one... At the time that the Broadcasters made the comment Santa Clara was
10-9... They lost by 3 tonight and so they are 10-10 now... So the correct
comment would be ( at this moment)that the WCC is only one of two conferences
that has no teams below .500...WSU could have made that claim before
their game with Stanford thanks to the utes but now you're right, they are
only one game below .500 till they play California this weekend... again, thanks
to the utes.
Foul shooting saved the game.Otherwise, how could the Cougs overcome
those 2,700 fans???
Down under,"...the WCC is only one of two conferences where
every team is over .500. Pretty impressive. I wonder if any other team in the
state could say that about their conference?"Actually not every
team in the WCC is over .500, Santa Clara is 10-10. So to answer your question,
no team in the state can say that about their conference, including BYU.Additionally, The Pac 12 actually has 11 teams over .500 while the WCC
has 9. Only one Pac 12 team is below .500, that team is WSU at 8-9 ... a
whopping one game under.So you were bragging about what again?
Good win on the road. Nice to see some much improved FT shooting. Good 2nd
half for the team.Go Cougars!
Another good defensive game, but the Cougars got rocked on the boards. Their
big men pretty much owned our big men. Mika needs a lot of work on his defense
and needs to resist putting the ball on the floor every time he touches it.Very pleased with Carlino's play. Played well within his game,
made good decisions, played good defense, and knocked down big shots. I really
think he is starting to figure it out. Carlino really is the key to this
team's success. As he goes, so goes the team.All in all, a
very good and important win for the cougars.
Huge win. That's one. Now look to the next game and get that one. Hard
work paid off tonight.
Road wins are always tough. Good start to a 4-game road swing that could make or
break BYU's WCC and NCAA chances.
Way to go Cougs. Nice win against a quality team on the road. 5 players in
double figures. The WCC is a tough conference. ESPN reports that the WCC is
only one of two conferences where every team is over .500. Pretty impressive.
I wonder if any other team in the state could say that about their conference?
Cougars need to work on defense while keeping the big men out of foul trouble,
but congrats to the Cougars for the road win, hope they can keep it up!
Whew! Hard-fought win. These USF guys always play tough. Jax Emery did a
great job as color commentator in the KSL call with Greg Wrubell. I like Mark
Durrant a lot too, but Jackson had a lot of insights due to recent playing
Free Throw shooting 75% tonight. Cougars win!
Great win for the cougars. Carlino off the bench is working out really well, I
love his confidence right now. It looks like Mika still has a little rust but
it's great to see him back in the lineup. Go Cougs!