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Published: Friday, Jan. 17 2014 4:20 p.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

"Racial profiling" is an over used phrase to excuse yourself.

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

The real problem with profiling, is it works. We can talk about doing something different but we haven't found anything as effective.

Lenea
Corpus Christi, TX

I am so glad that Travvon's mother is going on and speaking in public. I am so glad that she is being invited from different organizations.. We need more parents to speak about unwanted races.. That is being taught in the home when these children are 2-3. They are following their parents. May God Bless her family and keep giving her strength to carry on..
Robbin Gunter..

lawburgtn
USA, TN

Racial profiling is a name created by the media. The program is actually nothing more than statistical analysis. You take the crime data for an area and by a computer formula, a list is compiled of types of persons "likely" to commit crimes. Age, race are information used for this analysis. The program in its intended form is not a method to promote racism; it is merely a tool to help law enforcement keep an eye out for possible criminal elements. This is a tool to help prevent crime before it happens. Racist people are going to be racist; they do not need a computer program to help them be that way.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Was Zimmerman justified in shooting Trayvon and taking his life? No one really knows what happened that night. We have a few witnesses that heard the gun shot, the fight....the only eye witness alive is Zimmerman. Who claimed Trayvon turned on him and attacked him, bashing his head in the concrete, which he felt his life threaten and took action and shot him. Is that true? The jury felt there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman.

But, since she is talking about race. Let's discuss the events after the shooting. Which is a large segment of society blamed "white" people for it. Claiming that a "racists white" man took down an innocent child that had a drink and skittles. Which we know Trayvon isn't the innocent little child that they tried to make him out to be. We know he, like many other kids, had an unacceptable characteristics. The shooter identifies himself as Hispanic and a registered Democrat. The president and others tried to pass this off as a racists "Tea party" member out to kill black people.

Northern
Logan, UT

Instead of speaking out on a topic bearing no meaning in this instance. Why not speak on being better parents and raising better kids.

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

Since the trial ended, we have seen evidence that Zimmerman is a troubled individual.
Now, even more than before, there are screaming doubts about what really happened that night, and about the verdict.

Vet2Biz
South Jord, UT

Those who think profiling helps identify criminals are forgetting that in order to profile - you have to decide what a criminal looks like. And when you do that - you may be right some of the time, but most likely all you're going to do it paint a target on the back of someone innocent. Clothing and skin color tells you NOTHING about a person's intent at any given moment. According to historical record, we should consider white people in nice clothes more prone to violence after dozens of centuries of war, genocide, slavery, organized crime and even crusades that has taken the lives of millions (maybe billions)! What I'm saying is that for every style of dress or skin color there are criminals and just regular people, but less criminals by huge margins. Statistics tell you NOTHING about what an individual is likely to do. No ONE group is more dangerous than any other. Profiling is lazy and inaccurate -but "even a broken clock is right twice a day."

wrz
Phoenix, AZ

In the first place, Zimmerman did not racially profile. He was asked by the dispatcher what color the suspect was. Zimmerman responded... "he looks black."

Secondly, racial designations seems to be the choice of the Black community. They refer to themselves as "African-Americans." That term is profiling either by race or location origins. They should just drop the "African" and call themselves "Americans." Because they are Americans.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

Studies show that white and black people use marijuana at roughly the same rates, but that black people are arrested at 4x the rate of white people for marijuana possession.

New York says stop and frisk, which disproportionately went after black and latino residents, on the basis Johnny Moser asserts, actually found weapons on only 1.8% of black and latino residents compared to 3.8% of white residents.

Studies show employers are much more likely to interview someone with a white-sounding name over a black-sounding name if they have similar qualifications.

To pretend racial profiling doesn't exist is to be colorblind (and not in the way you consider good).

hukutas
Columbus, OH

I think what some people must learn is respect is earned not given. Why respect any teen out in the middle of the night with their pants sagging, walking through other peoples property like a thug? Whats to respect?

Bottom line certain people go around looking for trouble (Or acting like they are to be "Bad" or "Hard" but when they find it, they want to complain the entire system is at fault.

Not to be heartless but it is time to grow up, stop having babies, hanging out on street corners, causing trouble and seeking the easy way out while drinking and smoking your drugs, bottom line, TIME TO GROW UP.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

I can agree with hukutas, but Treyvon Martin, unfortunately, had his chance to grow up taken away by force. And the taker? He's gone on to other other things, probably convinced that he is, according to one DN poster, a "great man".

Alfred
Phoenix, AZ

@riverofsun:
"Since the trial ended, we have seen evidence that Zimmerman is a troubled individual."

Who wouldn't be troubled... being dragged through court, demeaned in the most vile ways, including being accused of racial profiling.

@Vet2Biz:
"Those who think profiling helps identify criminals are forgetting that in order to profile - you have to decide what a criminal looks like."

You seem to think that racial profiling is racial criminalizing. Racial profiling is simply identifying someones race... of which there are four in the world... Caucasian (While), black (African) Hispanic, and Asian. Actually there are only three: Caucasian, African, and Asian.

"No ONE group is more dangerous than any other."

Not true. Statistics show that Black youth are involved in a disproportionate number of crimes.

"Profiling is lazy and inaccurate."

Profiling is a major tool in the arsenal of law enforcement to detain and punish law breakers, be they White, Black, or Asian.

hatterdude
pensacola, FL

how can we express ourselves when we have to stick to strick guideline as if in a communist govt.

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@Schnee:
"Studies show that white and black people use marijuana at roughly the same rates, but that black people are arrested at 4x the rate of white people for marijuana possession."

That's because blacks use on the streets and whites in the privacy of their homes.

"New York says stop and frisk, which disproportionately went after black and Latino residents, on the basis Johnny Moser asserts, actually found weapons on only 1.8% of black and Latino residents compared to 3.8% of white residents."

Way to skew statistics. If blacks and Latinos are frisked more than whites of course the rate of finding something would be smaller for the larger population of friskees.

"Studies show employers are much more likely to interview someone with a white-sounding name over a black-sounding name if they have similar qualifications."

It looks like, as in all of life's situations, it would behoove the black community to rectify this situation... How? Stop having babies our of wedlock, stay out of gangs, get an education. Applies to everyone.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Neanderthal
"That's because blacks use on the streets and whites in the privacy of their homes."

It's possession, not use, do you think the higher rates of stopping and frisking them as opposed to white people is what turns up the possessed marijuana?

"If blacks and Latinos are frisked more than whites of course the rate of finding something would be smaller for the larger population of friskees"

Using rates accounts for population differences. If your argument were correct then I guess they need to frisk more white people or less minorities in order to balance it out.

"It looks like, as in all of life's situations, it would behoove the black community to rectify this situation... How? Stop having babies our of wedlock, stay out of gangs, get an education. "

I noted a study (which I should reference...: "Are Emily and Brendan More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal?") that compared response rates to job applications with similar qualifications, just with differences in name... unless... are you blaming black people for racial profiling?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Racial profiling .. if .. it happened is the least if the sins in this case. Travon's father told police the voice of the man screaming was not his son. Later when he realized changing his testimony might help convict George Zimmerman he changed his testimony. Texts from Travons phone showed he liked to pick fights and beat up people. Travon could have walked away when he noticed George Zimmerman keeping an eye on him. Instead he chose to sneek up on and then viciously attack Mr. Zimmerman, knocking his head repeatedly into a sidewalk and punching him in the face.

If one wants to build a case against racial profiling, this is a terrible case to make that case.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

cjb,

Well said!

It was also proven Treyvon had drugs in his system when he viciously attacked Zimmerman and also his own girlfriend admitted Treyvon used racial slurs in reference to Zimmerman. The only evidence of racism in this case was from Treyvon

joe5
South Jordan, UT

When my kids were young, I tried to teach them that their appearance was a message they were sending to the world about themselves.

My youngest son recently experienced this first hand. Just for fun, he used some of his wife's left over dye to color his hair blue (or green, I forget). Hoping to improve his position at work, he went to an interview like that. He was not selected. His interviewer, being an old softball and basketball buddy of mine, asked me what that was all about with his hair. I explained that my son is a good kid, good husband, good father, but that he was just playing around. (He's since cut his hair and looks much better.)

The problem was that he looked like a punk based on the message he was sending. Bosses want people who look professional, not like punks. Was he profiled? Yes. Was it accurate? No. Was it justified? I think so. Does my son have a valid complaint? Not in my mind. He failed in his interview because of what he communicated to the interviewer. Not every message is verbal.

golf
tooele, UT

I only know a few African Americans personally and they are all nice people. The majority that I see are on TV and music videos. From what I view they want me to believe they are a bunch of thugs and that I should be scared because they might shoot me. Sorry for being scared its just what I see.

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