I don't think one person in the chat board would choose any of the schools
mentioned if Stanford offered you. If you can get accepted on a FULL RIDE
scholarship to a prestigious school such as Stanford you would be a dumb not to
take it. I do not blame the kid for going there either.DUH!
How did the utes ever let this one get away? Shameful!
Congrats to the young man. As a Utes fan, it was great that he held Utah over
schools like Notre Dame, Wisconsin, UCLA and USC, but the decision had already
been made a few days before his announcement when Coach Shaw told him that
he'd been accepted academically to Stanford. With several TEs already in
the NFL, and he being more highly touted than any of them, along with the
extremely high academic repute and resources available, I'd shake my head
if he made any other decision. Good luck with the Cardinal!
Any decent tight end out of the state of Utah should run from both BYU and Utah,
neither runs a tight end friendly offense so why stay here? He could go to USU
but the Stanford education is the top reason anyone would go to there. Good
luck to Dalton!
OK for those BYU fans who jumped all over me let me re-clarify what I posted.
When it comes to academics BYU is on par or better than Utah in several schools
of study (finance comes to mind). BYU is a very, very good academic school. But
there are not a lot of non-LDS, high skilled athletes or students, that will go
to BYU because of their unusual standards and values. That's just a fact.
As far as the 2 football programs, BYU is not on par with the Utes and the
seperation is growing. The entrance to the PAC 12 cemented the deal and whether
or not the UTES will ever actaully win a title (doubtful) they'll get
significantly more athletes, better football players, than BYU. That's
what I meant by a better program.
Coach Peck said what?, "does he take one of these other schools that are
high-profile, nationally-ranked teams that have great national recognition?"
Ouch! Guess he does not figure Utah to be any of these, even though they are
in the Pac 12. He must have missed the game were Utah beat Stanford. Utah has
some work to do to change their image, if that is at all possible. Utes are in
a touch situation to compete against the other schools in the Pac 12, perhaps
even in a no-win situation.
Looking at the College earning rankings (ROI) Here are the rankings: 10. Stanford82. BYU327. UtahThe comment about Utah
grads at low paying jobs has some serious truth to it. Now flipping burgers?
probably not too many there but don't expect a big pay day unless you are
one of the lucky couple 100 that can get into U of U medical school. However,
the U likes to bring in out of state students for the medical school, and a lot
of foreigners, so getting in is not easy for native Utahns. For the other 28K
undergrads don't expect to make a lot of money with that U diploma.
Now, utah knows (in a small degree) how it feels to lose a top notch player. BYU
was a finalist in the Jabari Parker sweepstakes and was second to Oregon in
getting Haloti Ngata and second to ND in getting Manti Te'O. Welcome to the
club, but in a much smaller degree.
Jarka-rus,....."Alabama had no desire to be in that game and had
several players either hurt or suspended,"Let's see, Mark
Ingram played running back in that game. He won the Heismann the following
year. He now plays for the Saints in the NFL. Julio Jones played wide receiver
in that game. He now plays for the Falcons in the NFL. John Parker Wilson was
their starting QB when they were ranked number 1 for six weeks during the season
and he started in that game. No desire to be in that game? How about in the
second half when Alabama came within one touch down of tying the score. They
kicked off to Utah and pulled out all the stops to force a three and out and get
the ball back. Instead, Utah goes on an 80 yard drive and goes up again by two
touch downs. And Alabama had no desire to be in that game. Right.
Objectified"When a person has to go back a decade or more in an
attempt to validate their team, that's not a good sign."True. Now share that sentiment with your fellow cougie fan, Jakarus, who
referenced your disputable NC (more than three decades ago).
@ Protecting This House:There is a huge difference between belonging
to a "conference of champions" and being competitive in one. Right now,
considering Utah's last few seasons, you probably shouldn't try
bragging too much. When a person has to go back a decade or more in an attempt
to validate their team, that's not a good sign. The Utes will
eventually come back again. But that time isn't yet. Probably not even next
season. But when they eventually do (and they will), it will be fun for everyone
but the hardest core BYU fans. It's fun for most of us whenever any local
team brings positive attention to our state.
What does it matter whether he is LDS or not? BYU has had some great players who
weren't LDS when they went to BYU. A Heisman Trophy winner comes to mind as
well as some "punky QB" who I was a big fan of in Chicago. So please
quit using religion as an excuse. FYI I converted to the LDS Church 6 months ago
so I'm not a Utah fan bashing BYU. I'm a long time Utah resident who
is sick of the constant bickering.
@Protecting This HouseHow about a National Championship? Got one of those?
LOL Oh and here comes the.... It was against a pathetic Michigan team, or it was
how many years ago?? Well how long ago were those "BCS" games? almost 10
years now. And Alabama had no desire to be in that game and had several players
either hurt or suspended, Mount Cody one of them. If the Utes would have been
without Kruger in that game it would have also been a lot different on defense.
More recently I can remember two no bowl shows. and dwelling in the Pac
basement, but keep touting that mighty conference affiliation just like SEC
fans. You would think Dalton would jump all over going to the U with all those
accolades you just tried to point out.
@ Protecting This House:You've finally figured it out with that
great "sniffer" of yours. You've decided that anyone who isn't
a Ute fan just has to be an undeclared BYU fan. Wow. More paranoia. Are you and
Chris B cousins?@ FT:Gotta any stats to back up any of
your claims? I didn't think so. How is the only division 1
college team in the state who finished with a losing record and didn't go
to a bowl game (again) a better school with better athletes? You just received
the Weird Statement of the Week award. Your prize is more lost credibility. @ William Wallace:You immediately start hounding BYU fans
about commenting, and yet you were the first to mention BYU in a comment. More
paranoia? Some people can hardly wait to start mixing it up.BTW:
Along with several other schools besides Stanford and Utah, BYU was mentioned in
the article. @ MyPerspective:It's doubtful Utah
"let a good one get away". He didn't even bother taking his Utah
on-campus visit this coming weekend before choosing Stanford. It is
frustrating when some our state's best athletes choose to go out of state.
Congrats young man! Go make the state proud!BYU fans, I don't
think your school was even in consideration... Your many insecurities are so
very apparent on these blogs. Take a deep breath, worry about your own school,
and you might just live a little longer.
Congrats to Dalton, he's a great kid and will be an outstanding player at
Stanford, wish him all the best!! Go MINERS!!
@gunner:Who's your team? We can all tell a bandwagon
"fan" when we smell one, so no lies! (You really cheer for Weber State!
That's it, right?)As far as Utes Football is concerned, 2 BCS
bowl appearances and two BCS bowl victories, two undefeated seasons, and 9
straight bowl games in the modern era had a little something to do with the Utes
belonging in the Conference of Champions. (And we're not even talking
about their undergraduate programs.) Not blue with envy, but it sounds like you
have something similar.
Why no the Byu?
FT,"Utes will lose this battle most times with most kids just as BYU
will lose most kids to Utah if given a choice. Better school, better football
program means more quality athletes."Now that's a prime
example of an epic failure at commenting. Your comparison with Stanford is
correct but when you can demonstrate without question where Utah is either a
better school or has a better football program than any other school in the
state then you might be onto something. Pretty sure Utah State would have
something to offset that remark and definitely BYU would as their program is not
inferior to Utah's. Best wishes to Dalton as he has made a
choice that will benefit him through life.
"What is truly irrational? The mindset running rampant in happy valley."
Like the mindset up on the hill that they actually belong in a conference that
they can't win more than 2 games in. U of U, the Rutgers of the Pac 12.
Oh wait, Rutgers actually made it to a bowl game! This coming from a Non BYU
@ProtectingThisHousePlease share these logical reasons. I'm
pretty sure they sound just as irrational as any other negative views about any
rival program in the country.
@DutchmanJust like you said, "some" BYU fans. Lets keep it
at "some" and not assume everyone of us think that.
As a life long Ute, this is a no brainer. Football aside, you go to Stanford if
you can afford it. Utes will lose this battle most times with most kids just as
BYU will lose most kids to Utah if given a choice. Better school, better
football program means more quality athletes. Good luck Dalton!
Samwise,".......Utah was only in his top two because he grew up
a Ute fan."Wait a minute. Some BYU fans claim that no one grows
up wanting to play for Utah. Something has to give.
Big 12 Call Yet? said "Narrowed his list down to Stanford, Utah, and Notre
Dame, eliminating lesser programs much earlier in the process." Yeah...
lesser programs like Oklahoma, USC, Nebraska, Wisconsin etc (Sarcasm). You Ute
fans are silly. Utah was only in his top two because he grew up a Ute fan. He
wanted Stanford all along but wanted to be nice to the school he grew up
cheering for. BYU was not considered for two reasons 1. He grew up a Ute fan and
thus probably has an irrational hatred for BYU, and 2. Honestly, BYU has been
doing a horrible job at utilizing their tight ends recently. As a BYU fan, I
admit that a top tight end would be correct to steer clear of BYU at the moment
unless they are a lifelong BYU fan or think they are good enough to force Anae
to utilize them more. I hope BYU can turn that around soon. Anyway, good luck to
this kid at Stanford. He made an excellent decision.
@Uteology Dalton is a) a die-hard Ute fan and b) not Mormon. The
probability is pretty high that his decision to ignore BYU has nothing to do
with the program. Doesn't seem weird to me at all.
wow...a nice article about a nice young man and all anyone can do is
"slam" the other side? No wonder our world is in a mess. Is this a 1st
world issue?Let's raise the level of our discussions folks. Good luck Dalton!
BYU never really had a chance with Dalton. Dalton is not a Mormon and I
don't think anyone expected him to even look there.
As a BYU fan Im kinda glad he didn't choose to go there simply because BYU
doesn't utilize their TE's like they use to. Stanford is a great fit
for this kid, I'm excited to see him play.
Cougar Blue 1I guess playing for three offensive coordinators didn't
seem that intriguing. That's weird.-----Nor playing
with the next Steve Young down south. Wait you guys were never in the
discussion, that's weird for a legacy program with a national brand.
Disappointed but I wish him well, Stanford is a great school.Utah
still has commits from 3 of the top 5 in state recruits accordingly to
BYU used to be one of the top programs for tight ends ... until last few years
when they don't use them that much. Even with Anae's offense, tight
ends are rarely, if ever, used, and yet they prove very effective in BYU wins.
So blame Bronco and Anae for letting Dalton get away, especially in letting Hill
run instead of passing.
And the BYU fans say Utah fans are bitter and always on the boards about BYU
articles. Here is a great article about a great young man, who now has a chance
to play and get an education at Stanford. What part of this article was about
BYU? Congratulations on a truly great accomplishment. Good luck at
The Utes let a good one get away. Welcome to the Pac-12, young man...it will be
fun to watch you play! Best of luck at Stanford and we'll see you when you
visit RES in two years!
I guess playing for three offensive coordinators didn't seem that
intriguing. That's weird.
At Denver to KamasDon't sell Stanford short, it's actually
a pretty good school.
Choosing between Stanford and Utah is like trying to decide what job offer to
take between flipping patties at Dairy Queen or be the CEO of a Fortune 500.
Hmmm... Stanford or Utah.....good choice!
Choosing Stanford over Utah is a no-brainer.
oldtimeftballerAt least Utah was in the final 2...your was never
even truly in the picture.I would never fault anyone for choosing a
Stanford education, even if it means Utah loses a quality football player.
Congrats and best wishes, Dalton.
Narrowed his list down to Stanford, Utah, and Notre Dame, eliminating lesser
programs much earlier in the process.Hard to argue with his
decision. Welcome to the Pac 12!We'll be cheering
for you, except when we play(and beat) your Stanford team!
Seriously...why would he want to go to Utah with the state their program is in
right now?Take the emotion out of it and it is a no brainer. Better
school. Top 10 Program. Better upside. Unfortunately, until Utah can be a top
tier elite team, they will continue to lose the recruits elsewhere in the
PAC.Good luck Mr Shultz.