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Published: Thursday, Jan. 16 2014 4:56 p.m. MST

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Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

I'm devout LDS. I believe religion has an equal voice as any other in the public sphere.

But I'm stupefied at the notion that what I believe to be truth should be accepted unquestioningly by the rest of the public when it comes to matters of law and public policy. I have no right to compel others to view things through my religious framework, and I recognize that what I take as a matter of faith will be dismissed by those who feel differently. Having no small understanding of LDS history, I'm doubly perplexed that other members of my faith are so eager to demand that their faith-based views take priority over the views of others when so much of our history has been on the receiving end of such demands to comply with what others want.

At the end of the day, God's instructions give way to human agency to choose our path, and I'm more than happy to discuss the scriptures that sustain that view. But in Sunday School, not the legislature or the courts.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Some questions on some statements you attributed to those of the Mormon faith...

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Who said, "truth should be accepted unquestioningly"...?

I didn't see anyone say that. I don't know any LDS person who believes that.

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Who said, " I have a right to compel others to view things through my religious framework"...?

Didn't see anybody saying that.

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Who said, "members of your faith are so eager to demand that their faith-based views take priority over the views of others"...?

Didn't see anybody say that. I don't believe that.

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A self identified LDS commenter did say, "God's instructions give way to human agency to choose our path"...

I don't know any LDS person who actually believes that.

God's instructions are constant. Our agency is to obey or not obey... but his will doesn't actually "give way" to accommodate whatever we decide to do.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

@2 bits,

"I didn't see anyone say that. I don't know any LDS person who believes that."

"Didn't see anybody saying that."

If you haven't noticed the editorials, letters, and comments pushing a religious framework for general public policy, I don't know what to tell you.

"I don't know any LDS person who actually believes that."

Then meet me. The core of the Gospel in LDS theology is that we have agency, and that is one thing that God is unwilling to take or override even if it means we don't do He says. If you don't noticed that, I don't know what to tell you.

But that's a discussion for Sunday School, not a substitute for public policy. I'll overlook your inference that I'm not LDS because I disagree with your worldview.

jcobabe
Provo, UT

Intervention in minority religion is not always a bad thing. I suspect most rational minds would object to justifying ritual human sacrifice on a religious basis. In the most extreme cases, we would be remiss if we did nothing. Fortunately, almost all popular religious observance is of a more benign nature, and tolerance for diversity should be the general rule.

RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

How are Mormons being persecuted? Would somebody please explain this to me, because I can almost guess what got this article going. Mormons have the most power in this state. What they want dictates most of the laws that we have to obey. So, because some of us oppose the fact that we are being discriminated against, we are persecuting you? We are attacking your freedom of religion? Your freedom to practice your belief that you can deny others their rights? Guess what, that is an attack on my religion! There is a very good reason for the separation of church and state and I can't imagine that people would be so ignorant that they wouldn't understand this. Mormons are very comfortable with it at this time because it is their religion that determines most of the laws we have to live by. Can you imagine if the majority of people in Utah believed in a Pagan religion! What do you think, would it be fine if some other religion dictated the laws that Mormons would have to abide by? Well, it is to much to ask people to think about, isn't it!

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