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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 15 2014 11:08 p.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

@Chris B:

I understand your question.

There are many things which should not be in the news which are sacred.

I'm shocked at some of the things published.

Capt Moroni
Perris, CA

Chris,

What I have always found odd about the naysayers is their willingness to downplay the sacred temple, yet Christ went to the Temple. In fact he preached 'Further light and knowledge" in the Temple...His parents found Him in the Temple teaching the Pharisees, who viewed him as well-versed and very knowledgeable. Why, then, is it so hard for all the naysayers to believe that Jesus Christ wants His followers to go to Temples? Listen, carefully, and you will find the answer...stop the bigotry and Hate...Christ taught temperance, yet you show no mercy with respect to those whose beliefs you do not understand or even want to understand. If you want to know about Mormons, then go to a Mormon Church and take the Missionary Discussions...Be HONEST and see if you, too can't be converted to the Gospel of Christ...Just follow the admonition of Christ to Peter..."Come, Follow me."

Anonyme
Orem, UT

Chris B., you seem stuck on the word "sacred." It's a matter of degrees. It's true that there are many public aspects of the LDS Church which members consider sacred, but the temple ceremonies are *too* sacred to be publicly discussed. If it's about semantics, the word "sacrosanct" might be a better term for the temple: most sacred or holy; inviolable; treated as if holy; immune from criticism or violation.

BYU Track Star
Los Angeles, CA

Saw the New film too, in fact several times this month. The male lead appears to be Hispanic, think Antonio Banderas as does the Female Lead. The Chief Antagonist appears to be a little Napoleon. I would recommend members attend the Temple Screenings and study the nuanced performances of the actors. I give the whole production two thumbs up.

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

Chris, my sincere challenge to you, (as it appears from your posts that you have interest in the LDS Church), is that you meet with a set of LDS missionaries, either Sisters or Elders, listen to and participate sincerely with the lessons, read and pray sincerely about the Book of Mormon. As you do so, you will receive a witness of its truthfulness by the Holy Ghost. Then receive baptism and confirmation into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and after one year of faithful membership, you will be able to attend a temple and experience and receive the temple ordinances for yourself. I testify that it will change your life positively forever. You will in retrospect understand that it will have been the best decision you have ever made in your life. I testify that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the restored fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and the only true and living church of Jesus Christ on the earth.

David in CA
Livermore, CA

The story read in essence that since the 1970's part of the Temple instruction
was done by pre-recorded film/tape type presentation. A biographical documentary
on Gordon B. Hinckley said one his assignments in the mid 1950's was to get the Temple
ceremony in a number of the European Languages for the opening of the Swiss Temple
which was in 1955 and that this was the beginning of using film and tape recording
to accomplish the task.

The Los Angeles Temple was using the films by the mid 1960's and the Oakland Temple
Began Operation with the use of the films in 1964! That Temple was Designed Around the
concept of using the films.

So the news article should read "Since the 1950's and Early 60's the Temples have been using
film/tape recordings in the Temple ceremonies" or something like this.

Thank You and Lord Bless!!

JJS
Hamer, ID

You are not alone Say No to Bo! I thought I was alone in disliking the new video (from 6 months ago). It's something I've got to work on; I felt so impatient, feeling it was trying too hard to be emotional, and since I knew the words before they said them, it really seemed to drag on. I have your same questions. I need to get over it, as I've only done initiatories since that experience.

djk
blue springs, MO

i do not understand why. from what i was told it is because some were offended that adam and eve hugged in the garden of eden. really ! come on people ! grow up !!!

Bob Pomeroy
Bisbee, AZ

a lot of the presentation is for the purpose of subjective processing. many people say they learn something new every time they participate. altering the imagery fosters looking at things from a different, and therefore broader, point of view. In the least case, providing the ceremony to the general public would lead to 'cast in stone' interpretations, etc, which would impinge on attendees' exercising a Free Agency experience. practice is important in that regard.

Bob Pomeroy
Bisbee, AZ

all of the disconsonance experienced with the new imagery is an invitation to entertaining a new, larger, perspective on the experience. the temple would seem a safe place to do that. maybe?

sharrona
layton, UT

CincyRed13: Jesus and Christianity has nothing to hide.. I said nothing in Secret.(John 18:20 NIV) All sufficient grace.

When I talk to Mormons about what goes on in the temple? They claim they can't talk about it because it's Sacred.

I ask them what is the most important and Sacred thing about their gospel. Is it not Jesus? In their eagerness to prove themselves to be Christian, they inevitably say yes. To say otherwise is to make their claims to be Christian seem ridiculous, for nothing can exceed the importance and sacredness of Jesus Christ.

Then if they are willing to openly discuss the most sacred aspect of their belief, why then can't we discuss something much less sacred openly with respect? The bottom line is that they are sworn to Secrecy not to reveal what goes on in their temples. They are not sworn to Sacredness.

When you are forbidden to discuss something, it is Secret. When you can openly discuss something with reverence, it is Sacred.

J S and Brigham Young were Masons and "borrowed" a number of oaths, and secret handshakes from the Masonic Lodge.

MaxxFordham
OREM, UT

I don't know why they're calling this or the other one a "film" if it's really a video. But I know someone VERY closely who was IN the very FIRST recorded temple production, and that really *was* a film!

What was a closely guarded secret during production is now okay to mention. Without divulging sacred content, of course, we can talk about who the actors in these films and videos are once they have put them into use.

I was once inside the body of the original "Eve" almost 40 years ago (next month)!

I mean that the original Eve in a temple *film* was played by my own mom, Marielen (pronounced "Mary Ellen") Wadley (pronounced "Wawdlee") Christensen, the lady who later converted scrapbooking from an old hobby into today's industry over 30 years ago with the first scrapbook supply store!

Marielen and my dad, A.J. (Anthony Jay) also just had the 50th anniversary of their wedding on December 6 last year!

Those of Rubberband's Roger Archibald (my hometown S. Fork) had *theirs* the next day!

We have other December anniversaries too (17, 18, and Christmas Eve), and I want to add one by getting married on 12/13/14!

Mike

Michigander
Westland, MI

sharrona is correct.

The restored gospel of Jesus Christ has nothing to do with secret keywords, secret names, secret handgrips, and secret arm signs, that Joseph Smith copied from the masonic lodge rituals. Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, and Hyrum Smith were all members of masonic lodges BEFORE they were baptized into the Church, and they had a strong influence on Joseph Smith, who incorporated their views into the endowment ceremony.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

Other cultures have ceremonies which are sacred and because of the sanctity, they are not to be discussed. People have to show by some sort of a test that they truly want the sacred knowledge. The example that comes to mind is a custom from the South Pacific, if someone wanted to become a shaman one of the tests was that they were left alone in a haunted graveyard at night. One had to really want the knowledge to endure a test like that.

The view that they have is that one won't benefit from the sacred knowledge unless they have prepared themselves for it and it may even hurt them to know. So in the Mormon church there are tests of worthiness: full tithe payer, honest, chaste, word of wisdom, etc. (I don't represent the Mormon church, this is my interpretation of what I see.)

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Coming down from the Mount of Transfiguration, Peter, James, and John are told to "Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead." It was an issue of time and place.

The temple is also an issue of time and place.

Anyone with an internet connection can find much of it online. But in those are nothing of the power and insight due to the presence of the Holy Ghost in the temple and if we are worthy of it.

tyler11385
Springville, UT

Enough of the sacred vs secret argument. In the temple I make covenants with God that are good things and which I believe help me to become a better person. What do you think I'm trying to hide? That I love my wife and am committed to being faithful to her? That I want to follow the commandments? That I want to be like Jesus? Everything we do in the temple is aimed at committing to become a better person. Going into the specifics of how we do that shouldn't make a difference to you if you haven't been there. Didn't the TV show Big Love show what happens there for all to see? If I remember correctly, the nation burst into an indescribable uproar of how crazy the we are....not.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

What's the big deal?
It's all on the internet if anyone does simply does a google search for it.

You find what you want.

Good for good,
Bad for bad.

The point is -- Why?
What is your intent.

That is how we will all be judged.
The intent of your heart.

Bloodhound
Provo, UT

Contrary to what some critics are saying, LDS can and often do speak a great deal about temple work. There are a few things where you do covenant to not reveal certain aspects of the ceremony/rite. Why? I personally believe it is to impress upon the person the sacredness of the experience and to encourage people to keep their word and their covenants. That said, over the years, some individuals have not kept their word and have "exposed" the temple ceremony/rite. These have been published in numerous places over the years. Also, when searching for temple hours on a search engine, I stumbled upon a video of the endowment session. Someone, who didn't keep their word, recorded the session and uploaded it to youtube. So, for the critics, if you must find out what is going on, you can. Not having a deep spiritual connection to the work, the ceremony will likely not mean much to you.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

sharrona

.....who borrowed it from the origional masons. That's why the similarity.

Which brings up a point. Why would anyone reading this who is not a member of the LDS Church even care about this?

suzyk#1
Mount Pleasant, UT

To: Eternal Prospective....very well said. And your best point was - the Temple is a Sacred (not secret) place. There is so much curiosity. The Book of Mormon is sacred to me yet I am able to teach and share what is in it. Hopefully there will be enough people who are inquisitive and wondering that they may choose to read the Book of Mormon - there lies an answer to their questions and curiosity. I am so grateful to a Mother who raised and taught me the Truth and encouraged me to learn on my own and be a good example.

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