Comments about ‘LDS Church issues instructions to leaders on same-sex marriage’

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Published: Friday, Jan. 10 2014 1:45 p.m. MST

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1.96 Standard Deviations
OREM, UT

Read the entire release from the church website. Well done!

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

The LDS Church has made an official statement, which is reasonable, respectful, and clearly expresses its opinion and rules about Same Sex Marriage.

As an LDS I regret the decision. However, I have no recourse other than accept it as the voice of the authorities of the church.

As an LGBT man I respect the LDS church decision and certainly accept their rejection to SSM.

There is no resentment and as always I wish well to all the saints.

However, the conflict has never been because supporters of SSM want to use the LDS buildings or LDS to officiate in our ceremonies. The conflict is because the LDS church has interfered in politics in an attempt to prevent some individuals to live their lives according to the dictates of their conscience.

windsor
City, Ut

Love the always careful wording of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve so no one on either side can misunderstand their position or statements.

Also liked that they reiterated that while we as LDS disagree with those who support SSM, we will treat them kindly and allow them to believe and act as they will....

Just as we hope supporters of SSM will reciprocate and allow us the same freedom to believe and act as we will---

And that they would offer the same kindness to us.

ImaUteFan
West Jordan, UT

"Marriage between a man and a woman was instituted by God and is central to His plan for His children and for the well-being of society. Strong families, guided by a loving mother and father, serve as the fundamental institution for nurturing children, instilling faith and transmitting to future generations the moral strengths and values that are important to civilization and crucial to eternal salvation."

There it is. That pretty much sums it up for all of the LDS members who have been confused on this issue.

I appreciate this statement being issued by the Church and applaud their call for civility on both sides.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I am not Mormon but I stand with Mormon prophet Monson(and Pope Francis) on this issue!

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

"Church leaders also requested reciprocal civility for the church's positions."

Them doing what they want with regards to their own meetinghouses and temples is perfectly fine with me.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@Baccus,

"I have no recourse other than accept it as the voice of the authorities of the church."

And Mormons believe that these authorities you mention speak for God correct?

Interesting you say you regret the decision, but as a Mormon don't you believe that your prophet speaks for God?

So you regret what God has said?

As a non-Mormon, I don't get it. If you Mormons believe your prophet speaks for God what is there to "regret"? Shouldn't people always support what God says?

get her done
Bountiful, UT

Are same sex married couples allowed to attend church or hold positions?

oragami
St. George, UT

The letter states "Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God has established. God expects us to uphold and keep His commandments regardless of divergent opinions or trends in society"

I understand and respect the right of religious people to believe this. At the same time, I am grateful that civil law (often prompted by humanism and scientific progress) has repudiated those aspects of God's law/Biblical morality that are in fact, immoral.

I am also grateful that the Doctrine and Covenants states that "We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government." I hope this also qualifies as doctrinal guidance that Mormons will respect and uphold.

Cougar Blue 1
Henderson , NV

Well written statement.

Baccus: While I disagree with some of your comments, I appreciate your civility. I wish people could agree to disagree on this matter with more kindness to each other. And believe me that goes for both sides.

worf
Mcallen, TX

* cannot make bad into good
* wrong cannot become right
* evil does not transform into good
* a lie does not become truth
* stealing is not charity

No spin, majority, wishing, judge, or certificate can change these things.

After all that's been said, and done-

Gay marriage is what it is.

Doesn't mean we go around hating, or hurting others. We are free to make our own decisions.

PhoenixAZ
phoenix, AZ

YES!

Buzzards
LEHI, UT

I suspect this is the first brick in the wall the church is trying to build between it's standards and the day when the government comes after it's tax-exempt status. I only hope we can build it strong and thick enough.
Remember: "The power to tax is the power to destroy"-Daniel Webster.
I can promise you those on the other side of this issue know that.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Baccus0902: The Church has NEVER tried to interfere with ANYONE'S right to live their life according to the dictates of their own conscience. The Church has never tried to take away anyone's free agency to live anyway they choose. You can choose to live any way you want.

But, choosing to live any way you want is not the same and trying to redefine marriage. That's different. The Church has only tried to protect marriage and the family which is the standard that has stood for thousands of years and have proved to be very efficacious for mankind.

As a member of the Church I wish you well.

nycut
New York, NY

"Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God has established."

It is refreshing to see LDS church leaders make a distinction between civil law and LDS moral laws.

For the United States to be true to its principles, equality in the law will prevail, and I do hope the LDS devout will take comfort in the fact that their beliefs remain theirs to have and to hold, which indeed, is all they ever were.

The same principle of equality ensures each of us are able to live our own lives as we see fit. I hope Utahns can get better at sharing the public square, treating other civilly and start being better neighbors.

Maxx
Rexburg , ID

In my study I found that truth is truth regardless of what others may say. As members of the church we do not know all truths, but what we do know is what our Heavenly Father, being the author of all truth, has revealed to the Prophets and what they have shared with us. This is especially true when it comes to the nature of the family and marriage. With the family under attack and the nature of society teaching us that we should be accepting and tolerant of others views I feel that many young Latter-day Saints try to be in the middle and say that others can do what they want or they feel is right, so they don’t agree with gay marriage but they don’t actively oppose it, which is a mistake. As members of the Church we know the truth, the whole truth in this matter and others only have pieces and so their responsibility is different than ourselves. Continued on my next post...

HeresAThought
Queen Creek, AZ

I know that the General Authorities speak and direct with inspiration, and that this gentle but clear counsel is given after much prayer and consideration for all those listening. It reassures me that belonging to this church is the right decision for me.

Blue AZ Cougar
Chandler, AZ

@Baccus0902
Thanks for the honest post to this article. I imagine being an LGBT affiliated member of the church has got to be a very difficult thing at times.

One thing I thought of as I read your post was how oftentimes we (myself included) place a lot of emphasis on what people think, especially in religious settings. I believe President Monson is a prophet, and I would undoubtedly care to know what he thought of me (if he knew me personally). But beyond that, I care what God thinks of me. I'm reminded of the scriptures that teach us to not fear man, but to fear God. I'm reminded of what the prophet Isaiah said: "Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths."

I think we would do well to remember that our maker loves us and has instructed us to follow certain commandments that will help us lead happy and fulfilling lives. Joshua 24:15. Thanks again for your honest post.

Maxx
Rexburg , ID

Where much is given much is required or in scriptural terms “He who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation”(D&C 82:3) applies directly to us as members of the Church in this situation. We know the truth through the Proclamation to the Family and because that precious knowledge has been given to us our Heavenly Father is counting on us to support His truth regardless of what others may “know” or say. We know the Plan. We know why people are married. We know why they have families. We know why we came here and why many more are coming here and what they have a right to. That is a Father and a Mother not of the same gender but how Gods laws and truth have ordained it, to be born into a marriage solely between a man and a woman and to be raised correctly by them. Earth is not the destination but rather an intersection of four roads. We cannot go back we can only go forward. Continued on my next post…

Cyril GH
Ghana, 00

God's representatives have spoken. So shall it be. They have been kind enough to make the statement in a manner that will cause no contention.
I am LDS. Give us the respect we deserve to keep our religion as our God will have us keep it.

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