@ Sailor376: Since the family name is not mentioned in the article, how do
"we all know who she is"? The daughter is 21 - she has full rights to
her medical records which would indicate to her that her DNA does not match her
parents. Are people supposed to lie to her? Would that make the situation
better? How do you know she is not part of the push to get the issue
resolved?I very seldom agree with Chris B., but this time he is
right and you are way off mark.
Please read the article before posting. It is obvious some posters did not.
The clinic closed may years ago. There was nothing said to indicate the parents
don't continue to love and value their daughter. Not reading before
posting is a common occurrence.
Chris B,Cute turn of a phrase. Mine is focused on the daughter,
yours on me.Unless the daughter is made of iron, she is, and has,
been injured, and we all know who she is. All for the sake of some lines to
lift the advertizing budget? Assuage the 'something' of the parents?
Once known, say it once and quietly to the two involved, so the three will know.
It doesn't belong here.
christina do you think the multi million dollar settlement that the university
of utah will have to eventually pay these people, and maybe many more people as
well since I highly doubt this was a one time occurence, will come from the
pac12 money or will it come from the general funds and the students and tax
payers of the state will have to foot the bill?
@Sailor- This is wrong on many levels, but of course the family hopefully
continues with the many positives in their lives... No one can mandate that
either.It is distressing for the couple that may never know a child
of their own genetics. They have a right to redress on those issues alone.We don't live in a perfect world, but we don't need to ignore
abject injustice either. Prayers to all.
We should pass laws that ban people convinced of felonies from having access to
places where they could mess with children's DNA. This is especially true
of people like this guy who clearly had been shown to be a nut with attachement
First cold fusion and now this huh christina? Top flight college and research
institution huh? Good grief...
I have adopted many children. Met many of the parents and siblings. The Life
Guard of the Gene Pool was off duty when a few of these parents got together.
Several of them have grown up and we have had issues with some. Mental illness,
learning disabilities and others things that came from the parents who also had
these issues. My version of nature vs nurture has changed 180 degrees. I have
kids who have never met biological parents or siblings that are almost identical
to them. Mannerisms, quirks, speech patterns, facial expressions are often the
same. To be honest it has been a bit scary in some aspects. Yet I have others
that came from Asia and their biological parents were on the more normal side.
Betting there is some resemblance and mirror what their parents were like.So as much as I love them and would not trade them this mother has to
deal with the ramifications of the "father" of this child. (good or bad)
Yes they will love her but I know I would feel violated even though I would love
the child and would raise her as if I were the actual father.
Art imitates Life I'd say. The latest Vince Vaughan Movie "Delivery
Man" sort of addresses this issue in a comical manner. Do we choose our
parents? That is a debatable premise. Is this young woman healthy? If so, whats
the beef? Should she choose non-existance over life? I think not..In
the Movie, "Starbuck" is Vaughan's clinical name as he helps father
some 550 children with his "seed" donations in the New York Area. The
story had its genesis from an actual event. Physical existant is a gift IMHO. I
hope she makes the most out walking the Earth and breathing the planets air for
the next 80 years...
SailorObviously they are not going to stop loving their daughter, as
Chris B so nicely has said. Can you seriously not see why this would be
troubling for them. Not only the parents, but especially the daughter. He
parents will always be her parents, will always lover her, etc. She will always
be their daughter. But she now knows that her biological father is some random
guy she has never met, who is dead, and frankly probably was quite a weirdo.
Like Chris B has said, Think first. Then comment.PS Chris B, you
should take your own advice when commenting on BYU articles. Given how smart you
seem when it comes to politics and topics such as the one in this article, I
find it interesting (and a little entertaining) how much you let your hatred of
BYU affect you. But then the comments sections on BYU articles wouldn't be
nearly as entertaining. On second thought, carry on.
This has likely been traumatic for the daughter. I hope she will be able to get
counseling if needed. My heart goes out to her.
This was a very good article. I think because of this happening, it would be
good idea for children who were conceived in a fertility clinic, be told, and
that they may want to get DNA testing before getting married, to ensure they are
not marrying a half brother or sister.
Why would anyone want to do this - sire 120 children??? If the father's
sperm were not viable, then the parents should have been informed and given the
opportunity to decide - not to have a lab tech with a criminal history just jump
in with his own donation. Very sick! This is going to produce a real mess in the
future when these children want to marry and have no idea whether they're
in love with a cousin, half sibling, parent, child, or what. Everyone will have
to not only undergo pre-marital blood tests, but DNA tests, too. The lab should
be shut down for not preventing this from happening in the first place and for
not keeping better records. Some people are going way too far with modern
technology and should be locked up away from society.
The blog made it clear that the reason they are bringing this to the
public's attention is to be able to prevent half-siblings from engaging in
romantic relationships, and to allow them to learn of their medical history.
Concerns that show they want the very best for their daughter.
Sailor,Where is there any indication the family will stop loving
their daughter?Think first. Then comment.
Read, trainman. The clinic has been out of business for some time..
This isn't the first time I've heard of this, I remember a doctor was
in the news years ago for doing this.Why not just tell families, the
husband is incapable and give them a choice?----"Because Lippert is deceased, there is no way to prove whether it was an
accident or if Lippert intentionally used his own sample".Okay,
my imagination is not infinite, can the writer of this article or anyone else
please explain how this could have been an accident?
To say that she is a well rounded person, and that she got the best genes is
truly a joke. She did not get her intended father's genes. That is really
the issue here. I hope these families all get together and put the fertility
clinic out of business.
Wait a minute,,,, there is something a bit silly here. Are they going to send
their daughter back? Do they suddenly not love her.. ? Victim.?Okay,,, the couple HAD been trying,,, and as a result of failure,, they went
to a fertility clinic. How many times did the clinic try with dad's sperm?
Was his sperm motile under a microscope. Did he have any? They
wanted a child, they got one. laughing,,, and 20 plus years later you are
gonna stop loving your daughter? You're gonna make such a stink that you
were cheated that the daughter feels unloved and bereft? Gonna give her back to
the doc's estate?Come on.... what IS important? She is likely
a lovely girl, raised by loving parents who enjoyed birth, diapers, formula,
school crayons, cheer leading and swimming team.So what ? It is.
Accept. Enjoy. Who will do the greater harm? The dastardly doc, or the news
media splash? Think first. Of your daughter.
About 17 years ago, there were folks encouraging everyone to sign up for DNA
clinics in order to introduce family research through DNA. I was involved with
genealogy at the time, but I encouraged everyone I knew to avoid the testing,
unless they were fully prepared for the possibility that there could be
skeletons in the closet that they didn't want to learn about. I truly feel
for this family. I hope they can deal with this new knowledge and that it does
not cause long term problems in the family. I strongly frown upon this DNA
approach on a widespread basis. And with gay marriage coming on strong,
DNA-proven lineage will become increasingly messy, complex, and irrelevant. The
slippery slope continues.
I heard about a case like this. Someone had a fathered 120 children by being a
sperm donor. The concern was that there were all these people who were
half-siblings might meet, fall in love, marry and have children.There should be some sort of a lab protocol to prevent this from happening. A
requirement that only two people with identical keys can access the semen