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Published: Thursday, Jan. 9 2014 5:43 p.m. MST

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meworkingman
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

Please. Of course a high draft pick doesn't guarantee a star player. However, the 2014 draft class is expected to be the best draft class in a long time. This story seems a lot like a CYA for the Jazz's horrible coach. This was supposed to be a year of discovery with the C5 (Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter, and Favors) getting big minutes along with a certain 7-foot Frenchman.

It was supposed to be a no-lose season: If the young guys couldn't cut it and lost a lot of games, we would be getting a great draft pick in a loaded draft. If, on the other hand, the young guys caught fire and won enough games to push us out of a top-5 pick, at least we would know that we have the makings of a good, strong, young core.

But what have we gotten instead? Winning too many games while guys who won't be on the team next year get HUGE minutes while most of the younger guys (everyone but Favors, Hayward, and Burke) languish on the bench. When will the SL media quit covering for Ty?

Little Andy
Tremonton, UT

@meworkingman: Ditto. Along with most of the fan base..

behappy
Provo, UT

The Jazz got the best fit for them in the weakest draft ever. Only a handful of teams got a truly long term contributing player. Carter-Williams will be the Rookie of the Year, but Burkes fits the Jazz better.

Everyone complains that the Jazz are winning too much. Don't blame Corbin or his playing the two veterans that play. Blame it on Burkes, they only started winning when he came back from injury. You don't want them to lose too much because it can be negative mentally. These players know now that they can be competitive. That is a good thing.

Don't get caught up in expert predictions. They claimed the best players from last years draft would be Bennett and Porter. They all had reservations about Carter-Williams and Burkes.

Don't worry be happy.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

@workingman & Little Andy

What a ridiculous statement this is Ty Corbins fault. He is the coach and his job is to win. His job depends on it. Do you seriously expect him to play worse players while better ones sit? If that were true then you should be expecting him to play Lucas/Garret 30 minutes a night.

Blame O'Conner/Lindsey because they are the ones that acquired and keep the players Corbin has to work with. This is the movie moneyball in reverse. Lindsey should be unloading players that are making us win too much and removing the option Corbin has to play them. In fact I think he tried with the Bynum deal. Didn't happen.

I'm no Corbin lover to be sure but good grief, the Jazz have never been a tanking organization and never embraced losing so suddenly we are going to collude with our coach to intentionally lose games? Ridiculous.

By the way, Trey Burke is the reason we are winning "too much". 1-14 without him and nearly .500 with him. Sure Williams and Jefferson are some glue and filling roles nicely but we'd be in the tank if Trey went down with an injury.

TerryHaimes
Sturgis, MS

You can't judge the 2013 draft this early. Let us wait and see said the blind man to the deaf fellow.

I'm not ready to annoint Trey yet either.

Jazz management is not tanking. They are giving a group of players and Corbin room to hang themselves. We'll see.

joe5
South Jordan, UT

How can anybody expect to evaluate a draft after only half a season? The jury will be out on the 2013 draft for 3-4 more years at least. Some of the players mentioned in this article may still turn out to be good NBA players for many years. In fact, I suspect that will be the case.

behappy: The Jazz resurgence coincides with Marvin being inserted into the starting lineup. The Jazz were 0-4 between Trey's return from injury and Marvin becoming a starter.

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

And for the 2nd time the Jazz drafted a PG in the draft they get the 2nd best PG that was available. MCW is tearing it up in Philly while Burke, who has had his moments and is playing solid, is clearly 2nd best. Hopefully long term he is better than MCW but that is not the case so far.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Trey Burke has become a blinding ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark season once headed directly on a path to become the worst, by record, for the Jazz as well as the NBA.

May the Jazz be as lucky in the 2014 NBA Draft!

Objectified
Tooele, UT

When a fan goes to a game to watch their team play, it's always more fun to win than lose. Always. The more a team wins, the more fans support it. If a team loses too often, many fans quit coming... even though the idea of a lottery pick at the end of season sounds nice.

First and foremost, team owners try to keep fans happy and supporting the team. It's hard to fit any kind of losing (intentionally or not) into that equation.

If I was a coach, I would always try to win as many games as possible... in any way I could. It's called job security. Tanking games will never equate to job security in any situation.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

@TerryHaimes

"Jazz management is not tanking. They are giving a group of players and Corbin room to hang themselves. We'll see."

Uh, so let me get this straight. Nearly every person with a pulse believed the Jazz would constantly lose this season after they essentially released every single free agent last season. Right?

So the expectation was close to the 1-14 season start. Many people thought they should be winning a few more than that but not really that far off.

Enter Trey Burke. Enter Marvin Williams into the starting lineup. Ever since those changes they are winning at a pace near what all the veterans were winning at last season.

So this is what Corbin was given to hang himself with? The Jazz are now exceeding expectations that most had for them.

Your theory doesn't seem to be working.

Most of our young players are progressing more/faster than outside analysts expected them to. Trey just got rookie of the month. Derrick Favors is changing shots and game outcomes on a routine basis now. Even Hayward who hasn't been able to throw it in the ocean all season is suddenly stringing multiple good shooting performances together.

Ooops.

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