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Published: Sunday, Jan. 12 2014 10:04 p.m. MST

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Pardon-me-twice
Tooele, UT

Oh look at yourself bicker over and over. Tis the very Last Days.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

One of the reasons Mormonism get's "mocked" is simple, it's so easy to do. When a myriad of members act and respond so differently to the same issues, doctrines and guidelines how can it possibly be taken seriously.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

They dish it out at the same rate.
The reason the Broadway play was funny is because of the oddities of mormonism. There are embarrassing statements.

DavidNL
Holladay, UT

The article is interesting but not exactly factual... Catholics have been the butt of all kinds of theatrical productions, even here in SLC. Nuns are great fodder for ridicule. Any number of movies and all kinds of TV shows poke fun at Jewish stereotypes. I do agree with Bennet, though, that it means that the LDS church has arrived in a certain way. And, taking it in stride is the best approach -- LDS members know what is true regarding faith and what is not, as do Jews and Catholics. Finally, the Broadway musical to which Bennet alludes -- the Book of Mormon -- was awesome. I saw it with three "Utah Mormons" (we are all LDS) and aside from the over-the-top language, and a couple small dramaturge errors, I think it made us look like an interesting, faithful people! In fact, the woman sitting next to me, at intermission, told me she was jewish and asked a dozen questions regarding doctrine and listened carefully as I explained. This, to me, is how the church goes truly global.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I am amazed at how thin skinned and isolated some people really are. This piece is interesting in that it does finally point out that we have reached the stage where we and all the other religions - yes even Islam - have fun made of them. Good grief, am I the only one who as a kid saw "the Life of Brian" or "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

If anyone really believes we as a faith are being picked upon, or that other faiths aren't having the same treatment, your living in a bubble. I found it odd at the time when the movie Singles Ward came out how his girl friend was offended that the lead as a comedian made jokes about Mormons. If we can' laugh at our own oddities - and we are odd - ok "peculiar" - then we really need an attitude check

We are funny - nothing wrong with it.

Northern Lights
Arco, ID

Mocking is a form of bullying. How can schools or employers ever address this problem while some adults, such as those on these message boards, openly and continually proclaim that the LDS Church, or any church for that matter, "deserves" it?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Northern Lights.... what is the difference between "mocking" and "making fun of" or even "Joking about". Can we not have a sense of humor about our selves? I mean, come on. Jello Salad is funny. Church potatoes is funny. Deacon Dancing.... is hilarious. J Golden Kimble... hilarious. The BYU dating scene.... odd and very funny.

So what is funny worthy.... and what is off limits? I mean we have elders in our ward... one is 80 pounds max, the other a "solid" guy. Seeing them ride their bikes down the road.... funny.

3sons
Ladson, SC

Thank you for your column. I agree with you totally. I'm just sorry you had to watch an episode of the Simpsons to get your inspiration for this column.

Northern Lights
Arco, ID

BlueDevil

What you are describing is poking a little fun among friends or associates. That is probably ok if done in the right spirit. I think much of what you describe can be amusing.

What occurs more often than not in today's media, as you can even see with some of the comments above, is mocking as defined in the dictionary: mock (v) to attack or treat with ridicule, contempt, or derision. Some go far as to say this is deserved. I still believe that this type of mockery is a form of bullying.

Interestingly, many school bullies argue that they were only teasing their "victims." Where do you think they get that idea from?

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ The Scientist

"LDS have a "live and let live" philosophy?"

Wrong. If that were true there wouldn't be such a fuss about Amendment 3

Semi-Strong
Louisville, KY

I think Northern Lights says it well.

Every religion, racial minority, or ethnic group I am familiar with goes along with and even generates some good natured ribbing about their eccentricities (and we all have them).

And there are movies and other media that do the same. The kidding is there but there is also respect and love (think Sister Act).

That is not what this is talking about. This is about mocking. About pointing your finger at a particular group and essentially calling them stupid.

We should not be subjected to it. Nobody should. And I hope and pray we will follow our prophets' lead and never mock others.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Semi-Strong “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”
Jesus the Christ, James Talmage—explained that Jesus was referring to divinely appointed human judges in John 10:34: Divinely Appointed Judges Called ‘gods.’ In Psalm 82:6, judges invested by divine appointment are called ‘gods.’ To this the Savior referred in His reply to the Jews in Solomon’s Porch. Judges so authorized officiated as the representatives of God and are honored by the exaltedtitle ‘gods.’”(Jesus the Christ, 501). Not even Mormon males believe their God right now.

Twin lights, Did Paul boast? vWhen Paul came to know Jesus Christ, he realized that he had nothing to brag about. All his religious accomplishments were a load of rubbish (Philippians 3:8). .
"May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ" (Galatians 6:14).

Semi-Strong
Louisville, KY

Sharrona,

"I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also."

So was he boasting. Yup - to make a point. All things in context.

Glad you like Talmage. You should read the footnote for yourself vs. relying on MRM. In fact, please read the whole book (it was one of the first I read when investigating the church). He is simply noting the foolishness of accusing Christ of blasphemy when the scriptures (OT) referred to judges by that title. He is not negating what Christ is telling us.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

The answer why it is OK to mock Mormons is simple. A lot of people who profess to value cultural diversity are doing it in a knee-jerk way. They are doing it without thinking. So they eat Mexican food at a cultural day and they are proud that they are open-minded. But as soon as something comes up to them that requires thinking like someone mocking Mormons, they don't recognize they are operating off of stereotypes so all of a sudden their stereotypes fall on the floor and everyone sees, except for them.

sharrona
layton, UT

Semi-Strong,it was one of the first I read when investigating the church). He is simply noting the foolishness of accusing Christ of blasphemy when the scriptures (OT) referred to judges by that title. He is not negating what Christ is telling us. Wrong,

Jesus could not be hinting that men could become a god like himself since that would be in contradiction of scripture ,and the Lord himself said the “the scripture cannot be broken “(John 10:35)

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD(YHWH), and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD(YHWH); and beside me there is no savior. (Is 43:10-11)

I’ve read Jesus the Christ many times but I prefer the Bible, .. test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world…..verse 12 No man hath seen God at any time.. “(1 John 4:1)

Getting Older
Riverton, UT

I think it was Oscar Wilde who said, ""There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

Just spell our name right.

kaysvillecougar
KAYSVILLE, UT

Man Sharrona, you certainly are more well read than myself, a devout mormon, in early church history. I might ask what has been the tone of the LDS church toward other churches, especially recently? I would submit it has been very cordial. We recently received counsel from one of our Apostles at a local meeting, close to where you live, to support and applaud members of other faiths in their efforts to do good. I've seen my church do that as they have donated money to the restoration of the Cathedral of the Madelin and other religious groups not of our faith.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

ThomasJefferson wrote:

"The level of bigotry and intolerance displayed by some of the posters is appalling. It is never, ever, appropriate to mock anyone; their beliefs, their heritage, their culture, their colour, their sexual orientation....nothing, ever. Pretty sad!"

I would agree, but so long as your Bible and other scriptures "mock", debase, and otherwise denigrate nonbelievers, then turn about is fair play.

Rip such horrible scriptures from your canon, and perhaps we can all be friends?

After all, atheists are people, too.

IndeMak
South Jordan, UT

We as a church have always been mocked. We are also held to a higher standard than the rest of the churches.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

The wind blows the hardest at the top.

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