Good TeaPublican.. give us our dream ticket. Cruz and Backman. Oh please,
please, please!"Is the road to the presidency closed for Gov.
Chris Christie?" No, but the road just got cut down by a couple of lanes.
The question is "who really was manning those cones". And, just where
does Christy's shoe leather finally hit the road?
Go ahead and vote for him I don't care. Let him be Palin's vp running
mate. The more ridiculous the better.
Mike Richards:I suppose you want the GOP to win the election. I
suppose you are a bright individual. This guy had/has no chance. The GOP needs
to reinvent itself with some sort of way of appealing to more than just white
(older) males. They have to have more than just hoping the country falls apart.
The GOP is failing miserably to attract younger voters, Hispanic voters and
single female voters. Christie would turn off most married females too. An
election with Christie vs. Clinton or any Democrat would resemble more 1964 than
1984 let alone even 2012. Those are the facts. Again, the GOP's only hope
is Rubio.He could make a dent in all of those groups above. And
still have a conservative message you and others desire. It is probably good
this all came out vs. some "October Surprise." This is good news for
the GOP. Now they can actually find a real candidate and THERE IS ONLY
Candid and forthright or a bully. You can find a plethora of video of Christie
berating people at town halls. The idea that the GOP would have or still
considers him a viable candidate is laughable. The only hope for the GOP is
Marco Rubio and that is probably why he stayed clear this go around...
"The WMD were clandestinely moved to Syria."Speculation at
best. Not a shred of credible evidence to support it. Yet you state it as
@Pagan:"4,000 Americans die in Iraq over falsehoods."Those were not falsehoods. The WMD were clandestinely moved to Syria... which
were later used by Bashar Al-assad on his own people. Read Georges Sada's
book 'Saddam's Secrets' about it.And if you're
right, and they were falsehoods, the whole world, including the US Congress was
duped.@Independent Cuss:"What sort of high executive hires
people who would do what Christie just fired them for? What sort of high
executive doesn't know it when his staff cause major havoc a few miles up
the road?"For a second there, I thought you were referring to
Barack Hussein Obama who's AG ran 'fast & furious' resulting
in deaths, not just a traffic jam... and who's IRS official conjured the
@procuradorfiscal:"So, how come Christie is being judge(d) by a
different standard?"How come? Because he's republican.The news media loves to castigate republicans whenever they can. Where
are they on fast & furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Michelle's
Hawaii birthday present, an myriads of other Barack Hussein Obama snafus?There was more coverage by the liberal media on the Christie story in 6
hours than there was in six months on the IRS scandal.
This has been a national story since September. So why did he wait until this
week to ask anyone in his administration about it? I think he's toast.
Too bad; I rather liked him. And as a Democrat, I think it's a good thing
when both party's candidates aren't loony. And there will be loony
Confused, No, who cares, no and no'The area was not controlled
by Al Quida, the attack was started by a local second rate terrorist, who then
used the video to rally enough locals to create the mob. Again it
was a mob in reaction to the video and the State Department sent 6 security
personnel from Tripoli who help secure the compound (secret CIA facility). So
no again.Because I was originally talking about hypocrisy how about
the 8 embassies that were attacked under Bush. One even had a weeks notice and
nothing was done. BTW 52 people died in those attacks. So not only are your
facts wrong about Benghazi but outrage is woefully misplaced.
This specific incident is irrelevant to me. But I've never thought he was
Presidential material. But then... who is? I don't see any Republicans I
could enthusiastically vote for.It may come down to a, "who do I
NOT want running the country", again this time. But then that's the
way it's been for about 8 presidential elections for me. I don't see
any real winners out there. Obama had a lot of potential, but I haven't
seen him even TRY to deliver on anything he promised except a partially botched
ACA so far, and it's almost over.I'll bet President Putin
is disappointed too. I mean Barry promised him he would have a lot more
leeway in his second term to make changes. And it's turned out to be even
less eventful than the first 4 years.I guess what I'm saying
is... if Barack Obama (with the ultra-enthusiastic following he had, the
Super-Majority, and millions of minions with such high expectations... was only
able to accomplish this meager act... what can we expect from these candidates
who want to replace him?Not much. My expectations are pretty low.
Obama, Hillary, and other Democrats have proven connections to far worse
scandals than this and they aren't "sunk"Let me guess.
Whitewater and Benghazi?Clinton will be remembered as a very good
Secretary of State. And probably the first female president :).
"Chris Christie has created controversy in the past. For example:New Jersey Star-Ledger:"The political storm from Gov.
Chris Christie's trip to Disney World during the Great Blizzard of 2010
just won't let up. The Auditor has learned state Sen. Sean Kean
(R-Monmouth) was kicked out of Christie's first news conference following
the governor's Florida vacation. The boot came after the Republican
lawmaker criticized administration officials and Senate President Stephen
Sweeney (D-Gloucester) for taking too long to declare a state of
bombastic response by Gov. Christie on Thursday(2011) night to a parent on a
public television show isnt sitting well with local residents.A mom
named Gail said:You don't send your children to public schools.
You send them to private schools, so I was wondering why you think it's
fair to be cutting funding to public schools?," the woman asked."Hey Gail, you know what, first of all it's none of your business. I
don't ask you where you send your kids to school. Don't bother me
where I send mine, the governor responded."
JoeBlow: "I will wait to pass judgement until it is determined whether
Christie was in the loop. So far, there is not a proven connection. If there is
a connection, he is sunk."Why??? Obama, Hillary, and other
Democrats have proven connections to far worse scandals than this and they
aren't "sunk". Why should only conservatives and GOP members pay
for misdeeds?By the way, I agree that if he is connected to this
scandal he should pay politically for it, but the double standard of the press
and liberals makes me sick.
Yes, of course, stone the Governor. But just remember that only Democrats voted
for ObamaCare. Only Democrats voted to raise the cost of health insurance.
Only Democrats voted to deny us the right to keep our insurance. Only Democrats
voted to deny us the right to keep our doctors. Yes, by all means, throw stones
at the Governor, but be sure to take a truckload of stones to throw at the
Democrats who voted on ObamaCare, who told us that we wouldn't know what
was in ObamaCare until AFTER it was passed. Hold them accountable. They were
standing at the helm with Obama when Obama was steering the Ship of State into
pragmatistferlife,Did or Did they (State Department) know Bengasi
was in an area controlled by Al Qaida?Did or Did they (State Department)
know that the British pulled out all their State Department personnel from the
area?Did or Did they (State Department) know within TWO hours that it was
a terrorist act and DID nothing?Seems pretty clear to me that the
personnel hired by the current President is responsible for the death of 4
Americans including Ambassador Stevens for the lack of security, and not closing
'Bush was President for less than 10 months when 911 happened. When
investigating the cause, it was determined that Bin Laden had set this plan in
motion years before during the Clinton administration. It was Clinton
and…' Party of personal responsibility. 9/11
happens months into a Republican President. Blame Bill
Confused..hired a staff that had an American diplomat killed. Man you are
Independent Cuss said "The Presidency is the highest executive office in the
land. What sort of high executive hires people who would do what Christie just
fired them for?"You mean a "Executive" who hired his
staff that spies on US Citizens, sell guns to Cartels then loses them, have
American diplomat killed, audit tea party organizations, have a failed rollout
of a website that is suppose to insure Americans, who staff members have openly
lied to congress about details of such actions?You mean an executive
I don't think this scandal should affect Christie's reach for the
presidency. He might be quite good. I like his Jersey voice and attitude.
Possibly. Christie is GOPs Romney. The moderate sort of. The problem since
day 1 with Christie and moderates was his style and issue of gluttony. This on
the surface might not ruin his chances but this is beginning to look deeper than
just Christie's jersey style management. If criminal charges are even
remotely connected he is toast.
If Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin aren't on the republican ticket, I will
be very, very angry.
'Republicans ALTERED Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims' This would be the same CBS News that forged documents about Bush and the
National Guard in 2004 to try and get him defeated but ignored the legitimate
issues raised by the Swift Boat Veterans against Kerry.Thank You for
proving my original point. I couldn't have done it better myself.
You know as you read through these posts I don't believe I saw any posts by
"liberals" that said Christie ordered this and he is lying. Yet there
is a conservative storm of claiming hypocrisy using the tired old Benghazi, IRS,
Fast and Furious etc. Yes tired old claims. There have been over
13 embassy attacks in the last decade with over 50 deaths. All had some form of
security weakness or breach. So either be upset about it all or their is no
hypocrisy here. And yes the video did play a "major" role in the
attack. It was the reason for the "mob".IRS, after dozens
of hearings and investigations, nothing but mid level management mess up.
Hardly a surprise to anyone who has worked in a bureaucracy before. Where's the reporter scandal? NowhereAnd on we go....What's certain about Christie is his chief of staff sent an email
saying time for traffic problems on bridge, and the person in charge emailed
back, got it. Now the investigations begin and we'll see.
Nice sidestep, Pagan. 2:38 pm. It's still all about GW isn't it?
I will wait to pass judgement until it is determined whether Christie was in the
loop. So far, there is not a proven connection.If there is a
connection, he is sunk.But then, as some have already said, he was
already sunk with the Tea Party and the right wing.This latest issue
aside, Christie would have a decent chance in the General, unless he had to
swing too far right to get the nod. Doing so would alienate the moderates.The gop needs to realize that while you cannot win without the base, you
can NOT win with only the base. That is their conundrum.
Midwest MomIn answer to your question, Obama sent it out of the
white house along with the bust of Winston Churchill.
I just want to say something to my fellow conservatives and Republicans out
there. I'm very conservative. And Gov. Christie is far from my idea of a
perfect presidential candidate, and far from my first choice to get the
nomination. However, (you saw that word coming didn't you) some of you
folks are already saying you would never vote for him to win the Presidency,
even if he got the nomination. Way to early to tell how any of this will play
out, but if he did get the nomination, and was up against a Democrat named say
Clinton, Biden, or Kerry. Are you really going to cast a vote for one of them?
You do understand I hope that to not vote for your party is basically the same
as casting a vote for the other party. In this case the Democrats, and whoever
they nominate. Let's not allow that mistake to happen again as it did with
Romney, which gave us another 4 years of Mr. Incompetent.
Pagan Bush was President for less than 10 months when 911 happened.
When investigating the cause, it was determined that Bin Laden had set this
plan in motion years before during the Clinton administration. It was Clinton
and Reno and others who blocked intelligence access that could have stopped Bin
Ladens plan here in the U.S. Clinton himself had a chance to get Bin Laden and
did not do it. Bush inherited the national security failures of Clinton just as
much as Obama inherited (as I'm sure you would say) the bad economy from
Bush. Can't have it both ways pal.
I'm waiting to see what the investigation of this discloses, once that
investigation is complete. I'm reserving judgment until the facts come
out. I would suggest that's the best way to handle this at the moment.
Whatever happened to "the buck stops here?"
'Pagan........reading your post I could pretty much replace Christywith
Obama.......and I guarantee you that the atrocities of IRS scandal, fast and
furious, Benghazi, and his lavish trips make far out scale christy
exponentially.......can you say the word hypocrite?' Yes. *'Republicans ALTERED Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report
Claims' – 5/16/13 – Huffington Post - By Chris Gentilviso 'CBS News reported Thursday that leaked versions sent out by the
GOP last Friday had visible differences than Wednesday's official batch.
Two correspondences that were singled out in the report came from National
Security Adviser Ben Rhodes and State Department Spokeswoman Victoria
Nuland.' Because I am not the one fabricating insane claims and
presenting them… as fact. That, is Conservatives.
Pagan........reading your post I could pretty much replace Christywith
Obama.......and I guarantee you that the atrocities of IRS scandal, fast and
furious, Benghazi, and his lavish trips make far out scale christy
exponentially.......can you say the word hypocrite?Christy was never
the GOP choice for 2016.... But was lrather the choice the lame stream liberal
lock step Clinton Obama media has tried to foist on the GOP.....Christy is about
as conservative as Eric holder and equally honest........we need Christy about
as much as we need Pelosi do john McCain to be the GOP nominee.........no
RINO's....Cruz, Walker, or Rubio will be the GOP
@Skeptical ChymistIf Christie is a bully, what does that make Obama? As
long as we're talking about politicians ramming their agenda down the
throats of the opposition...I agree with what "1978" posted,
there seems to be a double-standard here if Hillary Clinton is the ideal
candidate for the presidency in 2016. Bridge vs. Benghazi? Please, no
comparison. I think the liberal media is happy to finally have the focus off
the Obamacare issues.After reading some of the comments here, I
wonder if most people commenting even watched the press conference. If...and
that's a big IF...Christie had anything to do with this, then yes, that
would certainly hurt his presidential prospects. But Americans have a short
memory. I happen to believe the guy after watching the press conference. Even
after clearly stating he had no knowledge of the issue, he still took ownership
of it and has acted pretty swiftly to fire the people involved. How many people
were fired after Benghazi? How many people were fired after the Obamacare
Christie says he knew nothing about this. OK, let us take him at his word, at
least for the moment. The Presidency is the highest executive office in the
land. What sort of high executive hires people who would do what Christie just
fired them for? What sort of high executive doesn't kinow it when his
staff cause major havoc a few miles up the road? Either Gov. Christie is a
weak executive, or something that smells bad hasn't yet been told.
To Church Member--- I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those Dems saying
this disqualifies him. In order to make that case, there needs to be examples
of Dem's how have had similar issues and not handled it as well. Would
like to refute the actual point now?
I guess you have a good point. If Hillary Clinton wasn't disqualified
after Americans were killed in her Benghazi-gate and the cover-up... then why
would Governor Cristie be disqualified for his involvement in Bridge-gate? All
he has to say is he knew nothing about it (like Hillary).As Senator
Weiner always said... America IS a forgiving people.I still
don't think Governor Christie has the temperament or the integrity needed
for this office. But that hasn't stopped us in the past.
As a life-long Republican, I like Christie. I think he handled this situation
well. He fired the people responsible. He took responsibility for what happened
on his watch. He has a reputation and a track record to support it that he is a
no nonsense, straight shooter, who is not willing to play political games at the
expense of the people he serves. He is reasonable and willing to work across the
aisle to make things better, rather than playing the kind of games we saw from
Cruz and Lee.I like Christie.Still
Is the road to the presidency closed for Gov. Chris Christie? time will tell.
"After allegations that Gov. Chris Christie played a role in shutting down a
main access point into New York as political revenge, some find his political
future in question."This is false. Why is the Deseret News still
reporting it this way after Christie's incredible news conference?Number one, he had no role in shutting down the traffic, and two, many
observers feel his handling of this today has increased the likelihood of him
becoming a viable Presidential candidate.
'Christie's aide causes a traffic jam and therefore he (Christie) is
not qualified to run. Hillary does nothing as four Americans are
killed in Benghazi over eight hours and she is the ideal candidate.' 3,000 Americans die in 9/11 on NY soil… 4,000
Americans die in Iraq over falsehoods. That guy was elected to the
Pagan: "I will not vote for sabotage politics."Glad to hear
that you won't be voting for Hillary in the next election.This
whole thing points out the abuse of power that happens in all levels of
government and why we need a small, tightly controlled government. If this thing
had happened to Obama (oh, wait...it already has numerous times) then liberals
would be saying "Move on. Nothing to see here."The hypocrisy
is getting pretty thick. I am a conservative and I hate double standards. I like
a lot of things Christy does. But if it is proven that he had ANYTHING to do
with this scandal, then he should pay a steep price for it. I believe that those
responsible for this scandal will be actually held accountable (i.e. FIRED).
Can't say that about anyone connected with any of the Obama scandals in
spite of all his feigned "outrage".
To souptwins:This story is about Christie. Obama is not even
mentioned in this article. Why bring him up? You are trying to distract people
from this story.
Let me see if I get this right:Christie's aide causes a traffic
jam and therefore he (Christie) is not qualified to run.Hillary does
nothing as four Americans are killed in Benghazi over eight hours and she is the
ideal candidate.And the press wonder why the public have no
confidence in their objectivity.
Those of you claiming "liberals" are out to ruin Christie's run
from president please be honest, the only way he makes it out of the primaries
is if the "liberals" attack him so badly that republicans vote for him
because the only thing they hate worse then a moderate is the "liberal"
bogyman they have created in their minds.
I hope so... I would hate to see someone like him as "President" of the
United States.He's witty... but we don't need a comedian
in chief. He doesn't seem to have the character I would expect to see in
a dignified "President".The Media loves him because he
entertains them, and gives them interesting stories to report, and he's
close enough to being one of them (for an R). But a media darling is not what
we need in a Commander in Chief. We already tried that. Let's try to
find a great Statesman, and a person willing to reconcile the differences
between the two sides (instead of just throwing gas on it like Obama and his
Democrat Super-Majority did). We need a guy who won't over-reach or
over-promise. I know... hard to find. Especially when the MSM will try to
quickly flush any candidates like this down the toilet (not entertaining enough
for them I guess).
Ignoring the current controversy and all the other negatives that are said about
Governor Christie, all that would need to happen for him to lose a shot at the
White House would be the reminder of what he said positively about the Federal
Government and President Obama during the disaster recovery effort in his state.
Any connection to the President that is positive is a deathknell to a
Republican.I like the guy. He'd be fun and unpredictable in a
debate. Hopefully he still runs and we can have some entertainment unseen since
Ross Perot. However, I can't see myself vote for him knowing how difficult
his personality is to work with.
Honestly people??-- I saw his press conference as very straight forward and
candid. How many opportunities has Obama had to take action against those on
his staff that have done as bad or worse garbage but did nothing? Vegas
conventions, IRS audits, fast & furious, Bengazi..... it's a pretty
long list and not a firing to be seen. This is the type of hype and over
reaction the Democrats count on to win elections. The hypocrisy is glaring and
if we don't see through it, we'll be stuck with Hillary who wrote the
book on sleezy unethical politics since the 70's. He's taken
appropriate action as soon as he learned of & had proof of it. What more do
you want? The ultra-conservative, tea party folks won't be happy with
anyone short of Jesus Himself-- actually they might not even vote for Him. I
find Christy refreshing pragmatic and nonpartisan.
Christie is a bully in classic Tony Soprano style. He wants his own way, and he
aims to get it. He lost me when he chose to hold a special election for the
open Senate seat only 3 weeks before a regularly scheduled election, at a cost
to his state of about $30 Million. Apparently, he did so simply to run up his
margin of victory in his re-election, the success of which was already assured.
I don't believe for a moment that he didn't, at a minimum, encourage
the vindictive bullying atmosphere that was revealed in the emails.
Re: "Is the road to the presidency closed for Gov. Chris Christie?"Didn't seem to bother liberals when President Obama's team did
the exact same thing. Doesn't seem to bother them that Hillary did much,
MUCH worse.So, how come Christie is being judge by a different
standard?Hmmmmmm?Smells like standard disingenuous
liberal hate speech, to me.
If this man bumbles his own state, I see no reason to vote him into higher
office. *'AP: Lawmaker seeks hearing on NJ gov's chopper
use' - By Angela Delli Santi - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/02/11 'TRENTON, N.J. — A Democratic state lawmaker said Thursday
she'll convene a hearing into (Republican) New Jersey Gov. Chris
Christie's use of a state police helicopter to fly to his son's
baseball game. (sic) '(Chris) Christie's (Gov. Republican – NJ)
spokesman says the governor won't reimburse taxpayers.'' –
Article He (Christie) LATER paid the almost $3,000 dollars charged
to tax payers. Close all the roads and take a helicopter to your
sons baseball game? This is grandstanding. And has no
place in our government. I will not vote for sabotage politics.
Seriously, his road closed? He would never survive a Republican primary. Did
the author forget about the Tea Party and the current qualifications they
require to lose a national election?
I See NOTHING, I hear NOTHING, I know NOTHING!, I didn't know Sgt.
Christie was in Hogan Heroes!We Conservative Republicans will never
SUPPORT an undocumented Republican like Christie!