StGtoSLCThe Utes lucked out on getting to play WSU twice and Oregon
only once.Bottom line - Utah is still winless on the road this
season and Washington State may be Utah's last chance to avoid going 0 for
the season on the road.
Uteanymous: "Pure speculation!"Honestly... it's
hilarious, but do a little research and figure out why there is no way, no
chance, for Utah to lose a game in Eugene by double digits this year...
Uteology"I guarantee you that Utah won't have a double
digit loss in Eugene this year..."Pure speculation!I
can PROVE to you that BYU didn't suffer a double-digit loss in Eugene this
season. In fact, BYU lead by as many as 8 points for most of the
game in Eugene and had a 3-point lead with 3 minutes left in regulation, before
losing by 4 in OT.
@UteanymousCherry picking is claiming a one dimensional player is
great. Mika has a better game than Haws. I guarantee you that Utah won't
have a double digit loss in Eugene this year... do the research to figure out
why.@SwoopTeams like Arizona, Colorado, and UCLA might
be able to play defense and force him to shoot, but teams like Oregon,
Washington, Boise, and BYU could not.But then again, he's
proven he doesn't have to score to be effective.@UteTrogFYI..."You can see this vast developmental gulf in more
than box scores and results pages. You can see it in the way Krystkowiak works
his team's advantages on the court, in the Utes' smart situational use
of timeouts and stoppages. You can see it in the way junior college transfer
Delon Wright... is the chief reason the Utes are so effective around the
rim...[forcing] double-teams and added rotations... The Utes are better, and
getting better." Source: ESPN
Good luck to the Cougars on Sunday.
Looks like the Utes are headed for the same standing in basketball as they did
in football. So much for the cupcake preseason schedule helping them get
prepared for the season. Looks like a long season ahead. The small fish in a big
pond analogy is going to start coming out again. Hopefully the Ute faithful can
come up with a better excuse.
Gone fishin"Proud of my Huskies. Too bad the win didn't
come against a quality opponent. Utah hurts our RPI."Uhhhh, your
RPI actually went up several spots following the game with Utah. Oops, so much
for that attempt at a dig.
To anyone reading these responses who is not familiar with sports in the State
of Utah, many of these responses are just the latest "interesting"
manifestation of denial and anger from BYU fans because Utah got into the PAC-12
and BYU didn't.The bottom line is that Utah fans and observers
of PAC-12 basketball are just now realizing and appreciating the skills Delon
brings that his brother Dorell (of the NBA's Trailblazers), tweeted out
last summer as Delon was making his imprint on the high-level league they both
played in down in Los Angeles.The Utah coaches themselves
didn't fully appreciate how good Delon was until he came on campus and
started playing with his teammates.At this point anyone who closely
follows PAC-12 basketball knows who Delon Wright is, and that circle will keep
Why does it matter if one person on a team can play, but we can't win
against even the lowest levels of the PAC 12? Wright can be the best player in
the country, but if he doesn't have a supporting cast, who cares?
We're still NIT bound at best and we can thank our weak schedule for that.
And that is only if we can handle Washington St. on the road. If we can't,
we might as well pack up, pack it in.
@54-10@UtesBy5Totally agree with both of you. The Wright kid
can flat out play. He his the real deal indeed.
These arguments of who is better between Wright and Haws is getting old. They
are both great players and both teams would be hurting without each one of
them.Byu has dominated the Utes in basketball for the last handful
of years but Utah finally broke the streak this year. Beyond that there just
isn't much else to compare.As for the Washington game, Wright
did have a great game. Too bad nobody else really showed up. Taylor had one of
his worst games I've seen him play and Loveridge didn't do too much
either. That being said, they were still in the game and had a chance to win it
in the end. I hope they can get things fixed and have a few more players step
up and pick up a win against Washington State. WSU just took Colorado to OT so
I expect that to be a tough game as well.Go Utes!
Disparaging attacks on a kid just because of the color of jersey he wears is a
pretty sad showing of class and character.
He's a baller and a great kid, the demeaning comments by the jealous haters
are unwarranted. Good luck Delon, thanks for choosing Utah, make us proud. Go
UteologyNice cherry picking - you should go into the produce
business.Wright's best scoring performances are barely better
than Haws's average scoring performances.With only two real
scoring threats, in Loveridge and Wright, the Utes have no chance against the
better teams in the PAC. Teams like Arizona, Colorado, UCLA and Oregon will
simply lock down on those two and force Utah's other players to beat
them.btw, Oregon won't shoot 38% from the field on their home
court. Expect a double-digit loss in Eugene.
UteologyWatch Wright's FG% plummet as teams start cutting off
his drives to the basket and forcing him to hit mid-range jumpers. He's
already proven that he's a horrible 3-point shooter hitting only 7 of 25
(28%) from distance.With the exception of Washington and Washington
St, the weakest teams left on Utah's schedule, its doubtful Wright will
break 20 points the rest of the season.
UU"Wright is a much better NBA prospect than Haws..."Who cares about NBA prospects... the only thing that matters is did he
help U win?At 1-2 in the conference after playing two home games, as
you can see from the conference standings, Delon is obviously the clear LOSER!
Down underSalt Lake City, UTTyler just laid 35 points on
Pepperdine. He is clearly, with out fail, no questions asked, mark it down, no
doubt the very best player in the state. Wright may have had one good game over
20 points every now and again but Haws does it game after game.-----------That's because Wright doesn't shoot 23 shots
against teams like Pepperment. He shot 23 shots over two games, 18-23 socring
46 points. The most he shot was:9-11 (81%) vs Ball State scoring 23
poitns, 7 assets, 5 steals, 4 rebounds, and 1 block9-12 (75%) vs Fresno
State scoring 23 points, 12 assets, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 block10-17
(58%) vs Washington scoring 27 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals, 1 asset, 1 steal
@Gone FishingYes BYU has had a much better schedule so far. But Utah
did beat BYU handily a few weeks ago. The easy schedule will change as Utah goes
through the PAC 12 schedule from here on out. But it's obvious that the
first third of the season was one cream puff after the other for Utah. These first few conference games burn. Still, to see Utah go down to the wire
against two solid PAC 12 teams at home and the road was somewhat of an indicator
where Utah is headed. Winning games needs to happen in order to keep making
progress though.As for the schedule thinking, if you are going to go
with this meat for thought here, then remember that line of thinking when
comparing BYU going bowling and having the better record in football. Utah
didn't play Virginia, Nevada, Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, GT and
Houston. Utah played BYU in Provo and won that game. The best win for both
teams? Utah beating Stanford trumps BYU beating Texas. Arguing
who's better can go either way (good blue arguments). I just can't
stomach these "so called national experts" comments all the time.
UUWho cares about NBA potential?Haws will lead his team
to another NCAA tournament.Wright won't even come close.
Haws scored 35 points but had only one rebound and zero assists in 33
minutes.... against Pepperdine.Wright had a double-double last night
against Washington (27 points and 11 rebounds).Wright is a more
complete player, like his brother who plays for the Portland Trail Blazers.down under, there is more to a stat sheet than scoring. Wright is a
slasher who gets to the rim at will. He fills up the stat sheet with points,
rebounds, assists, steals and blocked shots. He is also long and athletic which
helps him on the defensive end of the court.Andre Miller averaged 15
points per game at Utah and Damian Lillard averaged 18.6 points at Weber State
yet both were lottery picks and have been successful in the NBA. Miller is
currently 9th all time in assists while averaging 14 points, 7 assists and 4
rebounds throughout a long, successful career. Based on your logic, he
wasn't a good player because he didn't score upper 20s each game in
college. If I recall, he did record a triple-double in the elite eight against
Mike Bibby and the Arizona Wildcats. He also led his team to the NCAA
Championship Game.Wright is the real deal!
Answer honestly Coug fans, which player is more valuable?Player 1:
91-136 FG (66.9%), 45-59 FT (76.3%), 108 reb, 80 ast, 22 blk, 38 stl.Player 2: 98-218 FG (45%), 90-104 FT (86.5%), 69 reb, 18 ast, 2 blk, 12, stl.
Gone,You don't gauge a player's value on points per game
only. Wright is a much better NBA prospect than Haws if for no other reason
that he can create his own shot and take the defender off the dribble. Haws has
to come off several screens in order to get himself open for a shot.As pointed out by Utesby5, if it's all about points then why is Jimmer a
bust and Lillard a star? You need to compare Delon vs. Haws shooting
percentage, rebounds, assist, steals and blocks. As you can see Delon is the
Because Pepperdine is clearly, without fail, no questions asked, mark it down
the very best team in the land.
If Wright was indeed extremely talented he would be scoring in the high 20
points each night. He is not and therefore is a good payer at best on any
given night. Sorry utesby5 but it is just wishful thinking. I averaged 20
points a night in church ball which is about the level of competition utah has
faced outside of BYU and Boise in the preseason. Hawes does it against top 25
teams and a tough RPI.
Tyler just laid 35 points on Pepperdine. He is clearly, with out fail, no
questions asked, mark it down, no doubt the very best player in the state.
Wright may have had one good game over 20 points every now and again but Haws
does it game after game.
Wright is an extremely talented player and will play at the next level. He has
been the best all around player in this state since Andre Miller played at Utah.
Gone Fishing, if one was to rate talent by scoring average alone,
one would have thought Fredette was better than Lillard. Jimmer scored more
points but Lillard was and is the better overall basketball player. I would bet
that Wright will probably be a better NBA player than any other current college
player in the state of Utah with possibly the exception of Mika.Tough loss last night. Hopefully Utes can get a split with a win at WSU.Go Utes!!
As a long time Huskie, I have not been very pleased with Coach Romar. Pretty
dull basketball. But obviously enough to beat the cupcakes from the hill.
@Gone fishin Basketball is more than just scoring, for example
Jimmer for details).Wright is complete a player, he reminds of the
young AK (score, rebound,blocks, steals, assets)...but a better shooter.If Chapman is as good as advertised then Utah next year will have great
Hey,I have an idea. Let's compare Wright's game to BYU reserve
guard, Halford, who scored 26 points the other night. Wow, isn't it great
that a reserve player could score just as much as utah's best player. LOL
Chris B,No, Haws is not better then Wade. He IS better then anyone on the
hill however and will be the rest of this year and all of next. It's just
the way it is. Sorry.
Gone under, so your claim is that Carlino is the second best player on that team
because he is the team's second leading scorer?
gone fishinYa, and Haws scores more points per game than Dwayne
Wade. Haws must be better. LOL!
StGto SLC,I checked down's stata and they are correct according to
Sports Illustrated, as of today. The ute came may not be recorded yet with SI
so Wright's numbers will go up and Loveridge's will go down,This
still puts the two BYU players ahead of the ute players. Sorry to burst your
FishinHow about we base it on the overage FT% of the top 5 scorers
from both teams? Lol
Utenation,Math and stat are what the national EXPERTS use in creating
rankings incase you didn't pick up on that. We do care what happens
on the field and court. The difference is we care what happens for the ENTIRE
season, not just one game like Utah fans.Another difference is that we
don't count moral victories just the ones that get us to bowl games and
Proud of my Huskies. Too bad the win didn't come against a quality
opponent. Utah hurts our RPI.
Gone under, no, BYU's leading scorers are currently averaging 21.6 and 14.5
ppg, shooting 45% and 36%, jacking up 15.6 and 14.3 shots per game,
respectively, per ESPN. That is not great. Loveridge shoots a modest 45% as
well, for 16.5 ppg on 12.3 shots per game, while Wright scores 15.6 ppg with a
67% FG percentage on 9 attempts per game. If Loveridge attempted that many field
goals, he'd average 21 points per game as well. Also they both defend,
rebound and pass the ball very well, something BYU does not. Basketball is a
team game, not a contest of which individual out of ten on the court at a time
can shoot the most shots and score the most points.
@ Gone Fishin"BYU's top two scorers average 23.2 and 17.0
against 4 top 25 teams and an RPI if the top 25.Hmmmmm. The real is not
adding up but then again ute fans apparently cannot do math when it comes to
sports."The problem with byu fans is all they care about is the
math and stats. They could care less about what actually happens on the court
Many ute busters in the PAC 12.
Let's take off the crimson glasses and look at ACTUAL stats.Utah's top two scorers average 17.2 and 16.0 against the powder puff
preseason schedule ranked at almost the worst RPI schedule in the ENTIRE
country.BYU's top two scorers average 23.2 and 17.0 against 4
top 25 teams and an RPI if the top 25.Hmmmmm. The real is not adding up
but then again ute fans apparently cannot do math when it comes to sports.The top two players in the state are at BYU with the 3rd best players
right there with them.Sorry utsies.
Pride preceedeth the fall.
Best player in the state - BY FAR.
He did put on a show.And as bad as the loss hurts, it could be
worse. We could be coming off back to back losses against
Pepperdine and Lola Mary community college.
Wright and Loveridge are the two best players in Utah. And this
team is showing its ahead of schedule in the coach K era. Love the way the guys
play. Looking forward to a great season with the best postseason
hopes of any team in the state.Go Utes
I watched the game last night and Delon Wright is a great player at both ends of
the floor.He carried the Utes last night and he may have to for a lot of
the season.Good Luck Delon Wright and the Utes.