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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 8 2014 6:05 p.m. MST

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Toots
SLC, UT

". . . we will appoint wise men to be judges, that will judge this people according to the commandments of God.
Now it is better that a man should be judged of God than of man, for the judgments of God are always just, but the judgments of man are not always just."
Mosiah 29: 11,12

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

@Two For Flinching wrote:

"4blade2007 So how to do explain all of the homosexual kids who come from straight parents?"

S/He answered with the second sentence, "Children learn from what they see and experience." While some homosexuality is a result of genes, much of it is because of choice. As much as they and the homosexual community want to deny it, I am of the opinion based on observation that many cases is a result of an active choice.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

My support of traditional marriage is very simple. If SSM becomes the law of the land then any organization that opposes it will be in opposition to the law.

Anyone who thinks that churches will be exempt for long are mistaken. Many within the LGBT community are not after equality they want forced compliance. Ask the bakery shop owner in New Mexico about that.

Tiago
Seattle, WA

Marriage--whether SSM or OSM does provide a benefit to society. When people make a lifelong commitment to each other, they create a stable family that will love and care for each other as the "first line of defense." Married people are, on average, healthier and happier than non-marrieds. It follows that the government should facilitate the legal framework for people to make this commitment.
Regarding the fear that schools will teach that gay couples are real: Why is this a bad thing? Would you also be worried if schools taught that some people write with their left hand or that the President of the U.S. is black?

Saguaro
Scottsdale, AZ

This is very encouraging. I'll join a meeting, myself, to support traditional marriage -- as long as there is no opposition there to same-sex marriage also. The story doesn't indicate anyone opposed that.

isrred
South Jordan, UT

"That child then wants to know later who his father is. A sperm bank is the answer. And other male figures in that boy's life will hardly be a great substitute for a missing father. The perfect way to raise children is in an intact family with a female mother and a male father."

Nobody has ever denied that this may be the gold standard, but 1 in 4 children in this country are being raised by single parents. There are a half a million children in foster care praying to find their forever families but they never come because straight people with mother and father households don't step up to the plate and adopt them. It seems to me that straight people are doing a bang up job violating their own standards for child rearing and hurting children in the process.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Defenders of “traditional” marriage want to make themselves heard. When have they not been heard? For generations, they were the only ones being heard. The difference now is that proponents of SSM no longer keep their silence sitting passively at the back of the bus allowing tradition to have a corner on defining the issue.

There is nothing admirable in the straight backlash. They of course have the right to speak out even though their tone is one of hysteria over a timely change that doesn’t impact their lives. Whether prompted by animus or phobia, traditional marriage is under no threat and never has been. That perception is the creature of a silly imagination and an irrational fear.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

I understand that religion informs religious peoples opinions and that is fine as far as it goes. It should determine how you conduct your personal life and the choices you make. However once you start to confuse your allowing me to live my principles with the allowance of sin you've gone too far.

Once you justify your denial of my constitutional rights (and the courts will determine that) with the logic that God will hold you accountable for allowing sin, you've step over the lines of a civil society.

The only argument that has any bearing here is the constitutional argument of a states right to determine who gets "married" versus an individuals right to marry whom they wish. Save the rest of it for Priesthood meeting or Relief Society.

Linds88
South Jordan, UT

BOTTOM LINE- We should love and accept anyone and everyone, however my main question regarding whether we should accept same-sex marriage is, what does God say about it? We can argue back and forth about it all day, but in the end which opinion really matters? So I ask again what does God say about it? Is it OK? Yes or No?

It's black and white, there is no gray area to this question. His answer has been consistent throughout the scriptures and with modern day revelation in the Proclamation to the World. Until God reveals through one of his Prophets whether it is acceptable or not, I stand by God and his doctrine.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

Stop the nonsense, please! "Traditional marriage" is not under attack; everyone supports it.

"Obama's war against Utah's state sovereignty, marriage, family and religious liberty." - good grief. Apparently, no statement is too absurd in order to rile up a crowd, and avoid any rational discussion on the topic of SSM.

ImaUteFan
West Jordan, UT

TA1 - You are absolutely right when you state "we are accountable for our feelings and our support."

You will also be accountable to the consequences that come with such support.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Sad to say but those supporting traditional marriage have lost their voices, you no longer have a voice if you support traditional marriage. You can vote, but your vote will be overturned by activist judges legislating from the bench. You have no voice in the public discussion because you will be shouted down and called derogatory names. You have no voice! The next voice that will be heard defending tradition marriage will be God's voice! Reference Sodom and Gomorrah.

Breathe Deep
Eagle Rock, ID

For all you LDS proponents of gay marriage. I agree that you need to study "The Family: A Proclamation to the World." You have let go of the “Iron Rod” and wandering in paths that will eventually take you to some place you won't want to be. How can you support the Prophet and be for gay marriage? I’m truly baffled by this.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

4blade2007

Provo, Utah

I disagree with postaledith. Children learn from what they see and experience. When children are raised by a same sex couple they will learn from them and think it is normal, is it?

______________________

How did gay children learn to love someone of the same sex when they grew up in a home with both a father and a mother showing opposite sex affection?

Could it be that people are wired to be attracted to either the same sex or opposite sex, and the affection that they see their parents express is a learning tool of how to love someone you are attracted to? If not, how did we get so many gay LDS?

Gail Fitches
Layton, UT

I am looking for Belinda Jensen's FB Page, to show her support. What is her FB link? People do not realize this is a slippery slope that will end up taking away parental rights. Those behind the scenes are already trying to take away parents rights. Anyway, please share the name of her FB page, because I want to show her support, and have others support her that support traditional marriage.

andyjaggy
American Fork, UT

I'm all for traditional marriage. So why don't we start focusing our efforts on strengthening our own marriages, helping strengthen the marriages of those around us, and start working harder to reduce the amount of divorces and broken families. If we put the same zeal and passion into focusing on strengthening traditional marriages instead of preventing gays from getting married, we would probably do a whole lot more good in the world than we currently are. Allowing two people's relationships to be legally recognized by law so they can receive the same benefits that we do doesn't weaken our traditional marriages.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Not very Christian of them

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

To my LDS brothers and sisters who oppose SSM: Please move on because the gay marriage movement is only going one direction. It doesn't have to be this painful. If you must have something sacred to distinguish or "preserve" your marriage from a certain other, temple marriage is it. You'd do much better to rally in support of temple marriage.

Candide
Salt Lake City, UT

Once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states will the "traditional only" group believe that it was God's will for gay marriage to be the law of the land?

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Their voices will be heard, and I'm sure the buffet enjoyed. In the end, however, Utah is going to become known as the state that made same sex marriage legal nation wide.

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