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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 8 2014 6:05 p.m. MST

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Such a great story

Good people standing up for good things.

Keep up the good work.

I am not Mormon myself, but I stand with Mormon prophet monson on this issue.

postaledith
Freeland, WA

I am a straight ally and I support gay marriage. I look forward to the day when it will just be called "marriage." I believe that the LGBT community have the right to marry who they love. I do not believe that this affects other peoples' marriages, not does it affect the children who are born into traditional marriages. There are children being adopted by same-sex couples and they are loved and nurtured just as much. I look forward to the day that same-sex marriage will be legal in every state of the country. I believe it will happen.

Bjensen
Pleasant grove, UT

Another course of action that I am taking and wasn't mentioned in the article is contacting your state representative and state senator and tell them of your convictions.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

How do you deny people in a "loving way" the right to liberty and happiness?

4blade2007
Provo, Utah

I disagree with postaledith. Children learn from what they see and experience. When children are raised by a same sex couple they will learn from them and think it is normal, is it? Lets assume "John" is raised by two women, who is going to set the example for John when it is time to learn what a man does? Lets fast forward this ruling of same sex marriage for two or three generations, it scares me to think what our children and grandchildren will interpret as marriage and family.

sunshiner
st.george, ut

Of course it affects my marriages and my children and society at large. Children growing up thinking this is normal are going to be confused and weakened both socially and morally. This is a deviant behavior - deviant is defined as "departing from the norm." It is wrong morally and by nature's standards. I am sickened when I blatantly see on the TV new channels two same-sex couples kissing. The decay of traditional families and marriages will be the downfall of our once great nation. To think otherwise is foolishness.

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

"Conservative political activist Cherilyn Eagar organized the event she pitched as taking on "Obama's war against Utah's state sovereignty, marriage, family and religious liberty."

And this is why Eagar has little credibility- a tendency to overstate the facts. Obama's war against Utah? This was a judge who received a case and asked to determine whether or not Amendment 3 was Constitutional. He said no. Does she think he called the President on the phone and asked him how he should rule? And let's remember, while he may have been nominated by the President, he was given glowing recommendations by both Senators Lee and Hatch. Oh, AND he's a Republican (but of course now they'll just call him a RINO).

Besides, organizing a grass-roots campaign now will do nothing. This case is in the hands of the courts. And this is exactly the reason that federal judges are appointed, not elected. So they won't feel the need to bend to the pressure of parties, politicians, or political groups. Whichever way they rule, someone will be unhappy and scream "activist judges!"

postaledith
Freeland, WA

@4Blade
Same-sex marriage will teach children about love and open their minds and hearts to all love and that all people in the world can show love. It's a win-win and will enrich their minds and hearts for future generations to come.

trueconservative
Northern Utah, UT

Thank you ladies for standing up to the bullies of the gay movement, who are only tolerant if you lean their way! It takes a lot of courage these days to stand up for the traditions that have made our country truly what it is today....and that includes the freedom of speech!

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

I'm LDS, conservative, Temple married 25yrs, life long Republican, and I support marriage equality.

I strongly recommend prayerful study of D&C134:

"4 We believe that religion is instituted of God; and that men are amenable to him, and to him only, for the exercise of it, unless their religious opinions prompt them to infringe upon the rights and liberties of others;...

9 We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government, whereby one religious society is fostered and another proscribed in its spiritual privileges, and the individual rights of its members, as citizens, denied".

It is way past time for our fellow citizens to be freed from the mingling of religious influence with civil government that has long deprived them of their individual rights to equality before the law!

It is long overdue for us to join with our fellow Americans in supporting their emancipation from discriminatory populist rhetoric and unconstitutional Amendments such as 3!

It is high time we followed our true Master, who dined with the "unrighteous" and rendered unto Ceasar what was his, and to God His own, but loved all equally.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The well-being of children raised in same-sex households has been examined carefully in court and found to be no different than the well-being of children from straight households.

You can make all the claims you want to the contrary, but in court and under scrutiny with strict rules of evidence and cross examination, the claim that children raised by same-sex partners are disadvantaged simply falls apart.

Think about it for a minute - is how you have sex the sole defining metric for evaluating your own marriage and how you raise your own children? Of course not.

Marriage equality won't hurt your own marriage or your own families one bit. And now that the arguments are being heard in court, the case against marriage equality has completely collapsed. Marriage equality is coming, and you'll be fine. However, your irrational animosity towards people who are different than you is in for a rough time.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

For a state where "66%" of the people support their cause, they can only get an attendance of 75? We had a staff meeting at work last week with more people than that. Why didn't that make the news?

desert
Potsdam, 00

Like LDS 2 is quoting scriptures to prove anything against the will of the people in Utah to make them look like fools in being religious.

I think this is a big misunderstanding here.
Utahns are religion based people, but having strong faith does not implement that their voice is mixing politics and religion, it just reflects a religious language, but they have a right for a social and political opinion, despite their religion.

Bob K
portland, OR

It seems the DN is willing to publish the most paltry article against marriage equality, but never seems to mention most events taking place around the world and the USA that would give readers a chance to see all sides of the issue.

75 ladies in Orem? This is less than one quarter the number of students protesting on multiple days outside a Washington State Catholic High School because their beloved vice-principal got the sack, due to marrying his longtime companion.
.... As in Utah, the catholic bishops accept many, many thousands of Gay teacher and employees who have partners, but go nuts when the person DARES to go before God (or a judge) and solemnifies his/her relationship.

4blade2007
Provo, Utah
" Lets assume "John" is raised by two women, who is going to set the example for John when it is time to learn what a man does?"

... You mean "let's assume John is raised by two women who are complete idiots, and never make sure to expose John to their own family and friends who are male"

Reaching for justifications is NEVER a sign of truth, and never a sign that one is carrying out what God wants.

Mr__scott
Alpine, UT

We often talk about the gay marriage issue in terms of freedom and love. We are bound to mutual respect for each other and our different views. We do have all have a core common interest though, in One God, and in His divine power and it's ability.

Whether we accept or reject this does not change the unalterable nature of a cosmological reality, and that is that God made both man and woman, and has only sanctified sexual relations within the divinely appointed union of marriage. All sexual relations outside of this are held by God as sin.

What we are not addressing in this issue is the unalterable fact that sin is death. The reality is we show our truest love to our brothers and sisters by standing united against accepting spiritual death as an equal choice.

More importantly, we are required to protect the innocent from spiritual death, and we will not be able to avoid the fact that we will be held accountable in the next life for where we stood in bringing spiritual life, or spiritual death caused by sin into the lives of our brothers and sisters through marginalizing God's design.

ImaUteFan
West Jordan, UT

I M LDS 2 - I strongly recommend prayerful study of the Proclamation on the Family:

We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God.

Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.

Cherilyn Eagar
Holladay, UT

I did not organize the events last week. I organized the event today, but it was somehow confused with the others because I pushed out the marketing for all of them.

These are grassroots groups that work together in a coalition. We had about 200 one evening at Eagle Forum's presentation, 300 the next night with Sam Bushman and Sheriff Mack and Eagle Forum's morning meeting had a significant increase in numbers, and then over 100 crammed into the restaurant's room today. These are organizing meetings and from them we will be able to push back even more because everything is different now, and there is new energy.

Wilf 55
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The sad thing is that this protest is identified with the Mormon Church. I'm a Mormon, active, married in temple, and do not understand how same-sex marriage could hurt my marriage or society in general. In all of the most advanced countries in tne world, SSM is now allowed and became a non-issue. Mormons opposing SSM hurt the church and missionary work. The history of the priesthood ban continues to taint the image of Mormonism as racist and it will take time to erase that image. But the fight against SSM reactivates the image of the Mormon church as intolerant and prone to discrimination.

Tiago
Seattle, WA

I am LDS and believe in family values and traditional values, but I don't understand why allowing gay people to marry is a threat to traditional marriage.
Are these really the options we want to give our gay family members:
1. Stay celibate forever. Never act on your feelings. Never mind the physical and mental health risks of lifelong loneliness.
2. Marry someone of the opposite sex who you don't fully love. Get a lot of therapy and try to white knuckle it to eternity. Don't worry about the huge failure rate of these marriages.
3. If you can't repress yourself, date other gays, be promiscuous, maybe settle down and cohabitate eventually..Just don't make us think about it.
But whatever you do, absolutely do NOT choose one person you love and make a lifelong commitment of marriage to him or her and support each other through good times and bad. No, that's against family values.

mindfulwhim
Reno, NV

Trueconservative writes: "Thank you ladies for standing up to the bullies of the gay movement, who are only tolerant if you lean their way! It takes a lot of courage these days to stand up for the traditions that have made our country truly what it is today....and that includes the freedom of speech!

Yes indeed, freedom of speech is a right, just like "Liberty and justice for all".

Traditions, on the other hand, are not a "right". You can practice any "tradition" you want, but when it comes to outlawing the rights of others, you have no legal or moral right to do that. Slavery was a tradition, as was "a woman being the property of men".

Thank goodness for those who question the traditions of others, right?

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