Published: Tuesday, Jan. 7 2014 4:55 p.m. MST
2013 isn't an election year.
Though I wonder how ratings works. For instance I watch Rachel Maddow's
show all the time but never on TV, I watch it when convenient for me through
their online site. Is watching a show of Hannity's from say... Monday even
an option on Fox News's website? (Of course one could still just DVR it and
do it that way).
My thought would be two things. First is 2013 is about as boring as it gets
election wise, the second is that the conservative audience(older people) is the
only one who still gets their media through a traditional source like cable.
Most younger people, and the number say younger people are much more likely to
be liberal than conservative, don't pay for cable, and get their news
online. A liberal is much more likely to get their news from Huffington Post or
Mother Jones than MSNBC.
The answer should be obvious. The basic intelligence level of the general public
continues to plummet. The great masses would rather watch the Bachelor and
Jersey Shore than educate themselves by watching the news. Indeed, the masses
have become so addicted to the sleaze fest of so-called reality television
(which is anything but reality) that they know longer have the desire or the
ability to inform themselves about current events of any importance. Hopefully
the slumbering masses will awaken and realize what is happening before it is too
Objectivity is losing ground on all the cable networks , but nowhere has honest,
unbiased journalism taken more of a hit than on MSNBC. Those guys have
absolutely no conscience. That is why their ratings are comparatively in the
Re: idablu " MSNBC. Those guys have absolutely no conscience.
That is why their ratings are comparatively in the tank."The
conscience factor between MSNBC and Faux is a dead heat! If you doubt that it
is time to step away from the cool aid! Go back and read
"NoodleKaboodles" post, he hits the ratings differential on the head!
John Charity Spring, Sadly I think you are right. Few "have the desire ...
to inform themselves about current events..." I wish you were wrong, but you
are right on. The ignorance is stunning. *sad*
The picture says it all, doesn't it? Who wants to hang out with grumpy old
men and an even grumpier young woman? But I agree with Raplh West
Jordan -- Fox is just as ridiculous. The only honest news program to watch
anymore is the NewsHour on PBS, and everyone on there is getting old, but more
cheerfully. When Jim Lehrer and cohorts are gone. There will be no one.
Political pundits live off of politics, and they love government. Cynicism
does not grow and attract. Go for hike, go dancing, turn off TV. Cynicism
and MSNBC do not attract the common man, MSNBC thinks they are so smart, yet
complaining about things all day long is not smart. That is why Christianity
is at 2 billion people, people want to have hope. Used to big a huge Chris
Matthews fan until he began worshiping universities and being popular and put
his politics and ratings over his faith.
Talk about selective reporting... this has to be one of the worst cases of spin
I have scene in a while. Using the provided links (much appreciated), you read
the actual report has this to say about FoxNews."Compared to
2012, Fox News was down -5% in total viewers and -19% in the A25-54 demographic
in total day. In primetime, the network was down -14% in total viewers and -30%
in the demo, the steepest decline among younger viewers of all the cable news
networks."There was quit a bit more...Just maybe,
and I am hopeful, that people are figuring these guys out (and MSNBC too) that
these are not news outlets, but more infotainment. If you want to be
entertained, watch "Big Bang Theory".... it leaves you less irritable.
Lets face it, unless you are over 55, white, scared and angry, Fox doesn't
have much for you.I am surprised DN cherry picked data points so
heavily to support their brother in arms - FoxNews.
Credibility: downIntegrity: downProfessionalism: downWhat, exactly, IS there to watch?
Easy answer: There is not 24 hours worth of news to show. Thus 24 hours of
"opinion" and "news speculation" on all of these channels are
just worthless. It's like a 24 hours sports channel. When we have a game
on once a week or every few days, the channel is ok. But the rest of the time
it's completely worthless. Also modern viewers want content not
over-priced, out-dated delivery systems (i.e. 100's of channels we never
watch). Internet streaming (and paying for what you want to watch) is where the
market will force things. Clone cable channels forcibly bundled together are
living on borrowed time.
People are turning away from cable news because it fails to deliver news.
Propaganda gets old after a while.
A recent study concluded that Fox had 55% opinion-based content while MSNBC had
85% opinion-based content. That's why MSNBC is a flop. I used to watch
MSNBC all the time before it took a hard turn to the left and became so mean,
nasty and dishonest. I also used to have respect for Chris Matthews. It was
made clear in the article that ALL cable news networks were down from 2012
because that was an election year which increased viewership. If MSNBC would
become an actual news network instead of an outlet for the Obama Administration,
they might have some credibility.
It's been my experience that CNN will either not print articles that shed
poor light on the liberal agenda or hide them deep and far from highlighted
headlines. If I really want to know what's happening I'm forced to
turn to Fox. I may not be the only one who seems to be having this experience
inasmuch as, the last I saw the stats, Fox is blowing the other big cable
The problem is not Fox or CNN or the networks or even MSNBC, the problem is the
fact that people get news from nowhere. Newspapers are dying, reporters are
going to a different line of work and the general population doesn't
care.People need to listen and read a variety of sources, even opinion
radio and TV, and then form opinions for themselves. Right now most people know
nothing. That is unfortunate.
It isn't like the networks are unbiased either. MSNBC may be to the extreme
but NBC and others are all biased to the left. As such they are competing
against each other. The problem with Fox is that you have to pay a premium to
get it. If they were more accessible, I doubt they would have experienced the
drop in viewers as they pretty much have a monopoly on conservative programs.
I try to watch a bit of news from a few networks, a bit of local, a bit of
network, a bit of cable so I get a few perspectives. I watch less network news
because they report too much "celebrity news." Who cares about empty
headed narcissists and please don't put a microphone near the voice of
ignorant sports stars. Both groups make Americans look stupid. I watch less
cable because I get tired of the loud voices talking over each other. Not only
is it rude, it makes it hard to hear what they are trying to say. I've
added BBC news and usually watch most of it. They calmly, politely report news
from around the world which US news almost ignores. I don't like the drama
and sensationalism in network and cable news. I just want a bit of truth without
the adrenalin! After reading Sandy's comment I will try PBS but look up
"cohort" please. The 's' is redundant. Cohort is already
I's simple. More Americans want Fox to explain how the elites are moving
the country to the left than to have MSNBC work hard to blame Bush for
People, like myself, as well as many others I meet with, deplore the hyper
partisan reporting. I surely miss the old school news, with the likes of Walter
Cronkite, Chet Huntley, David Brinkley, etc. Please, bring it back. We need the
real "fair and balanced" news.
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