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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 8 2014 5:00 a.m. MST

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cjb
Bountiful, UT

"the prevailing culture insists education isn't masculine enough" ... ?

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Either I out of touch or is the writer of this article just dreaming up things to write about. I've never heard this statement or anything like it before.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

My daughter encountered this situation in the reverse in the 80's. When she was in the sixth grade, she had an opportunity to take a special High School math course in the summer. Although she did well, she quit the class because "her friends made fun of her for being too smart."

Frankly, I think that all smart kids are ridiculed, whether boy or girl. They need to understand that the ridicule is really envy.

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

I'm not sure "education isn't masculine enough" is necessarily how one might understand it. The same or similar idea, however, is widespread in emphasizing how much girls should learn and excel, or how underpriviliged they (supposedly) are compared to boys and men in education. In that sense, "education isn't masculine" is a clear, if unconcious, idea.

I like this article, though. Rather than most, who talk about falling educational scores amongst boys and men and simply leaving it at that, it acknowledges that there is a problem of some kind, and works to try and fix it.

Red
San Antonia, TX

I love this article! Thank you!

Great ideas!

Most professional sports leads boys down a path of wasted time and effort. Very few real "success" stories.

Where smart business guys have tons of great success stories.

Put the odds in your favor! Enjoy sports but unless they are banging on your door to give your a scholarship or pro contract... then get to studying!

JN
Chubbuck, ID

Great article! My son's are so focused on sports as am I that it does worry me. My wife wishes I would do more of the reminding and encouraging in the homework department. I am going to implement some of the ideas from this article.

Sasha Pachev
Provo, UT

Great ideas. We've used many of them in our home schooling. They really work. I just dropped off my 14-year-old son at BYU. His classes today are Math 314 and Math 334. One point I would like to add - get the father involved. The boys follow the father.

Regarding the need for masculinity in education - my wife and I participate in home schooling equally, so our children get an equal balance of male vs female instruction. This is not the case in the elementary schools. Our kids are not born geniuses, but they develop educational aptitude that puts them in the top bracket by the time they are teenagers. While the gender balance in the instruction is not the only factor, I would consider it an important element.

Regarding athletics - I believe in putting the right kind of athletics ahead of education. Our day begins with a family run. This helps the kids develop tenacity. You can hand a tenacious kid instruction material and he will self-instruct and problem-solve. If his mind is mush from dumb entertainment, you will have to hold his hand constantly.

teachermom6
Northern Utah, UT

This article hits home on so many levels! We also need more male role models in society and in media who are smart and are fun for kids to relate to. One good example is, Tony Stark aka Iron Man, although fictional and a bit pig headed at times is a good start.

BU52
Provo, ut

Just observe what has happened within the schools in the last 20 years. Men used to occupy most of the high school teaching positions, but due to the lag in pay most men who want to support a family can't do it by teaching and today my guess would be that over 75% of the teachers are women. While it probably isn't intentional the women create an environment more friendly to the females and the boys are not taught in a way that makes sense to them.

NoBoxScot
Salt Lake City, Utah

Try more fluoride, oh - that is proven to lower IQ. How about McDonald's happy meals - oops, that make you fat. Then load them down with high fructose corn syrup - check your labels, you're probably doing that already. Well, if its good for the FDA and the USDA it's got to be good for the masses - right?

NoBoxScot
Salt Lake City, Utah

Oh, I forgot the real winner - from the AMA (American Medical Association) - nutrition has absolutely no bearing on IQ or health. I'm surprised there has been no mention of a good diet in any of the comments. I dare not say anything about vaccines and flu shots.

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