Published: Tuesday, Jan. 7 2014 12:08 p.m. MST
Awe...Kathleen, well, it looks like you are another beltway republican who still
does not understand why McCain and Romney both lost and why the 2010 midterms
were such a republican success. Democrats win because they focus on issues. They
NEVER try for victory portraying themselves with an arm stretched out to the
other side saying, "See we are nice and we can get along."Lets see, oh that's right, that's how McCain and Romney campaigned,
and I think they lost Kathleen. And you lecture us on putting up losing
candidates! The tea-party is who helped win the House back; singularly due to
campaigns across the country focused on the issue of the alarming growth of
government and the loss of our freedoms. And if I am not mistaking,
it was Bush's true colors showing through as a NOT true conservative that
gave the Senate and the House to Polosi and Reid. We see and understand the
dangerous direction our country is headed and we have the winning strategy. Open
"What smart Republicans are aiming for are candidates who can win both a
primary and a general election, actual human beings who can appeal to a wide
swath of the electorate, not just the purity-proof hard-liners on the
right"Yup. And when the GOP stops pushing the Crazy, birther
types, I am happy to pull the "R" lever again.While some do
see the light, I fear that there are still too many (evident on this board
daily) who would rather lose with their perfect candidate than win with someone
who gives them most of what they want.
I find it a bit odd, and even disingenuous, when a writer predicts doom and
gloom for the Republican party if it doesn't follow his or her prescription
for success (often summed up as "dump the tea party"). The problem is
that until someone else demonstrates even a glimmer of conscience on issues like
abortion and actually does something about runaway spending,
fiscally-conservative and socially-conscious candidates will continue to win
Republican primaries, especially in down-stream elections.And, lest
pundits not appreciate the distinction, strictly tea party-only members
don't generally get into the tall grass of social issues such as abortion,
so it isn't just the tea partiers who have a stake and influence in
Republican primaries. For instance, I doubt that the previously much-maligned
Religious Right has faded into oblivion; it's just that pundits now like to
focus all of their attention and ire on the "tea party."I
suspect there are many others like me who will continue to focus their attention
and support on candidates who truly represent what we consider to be the most
important issues of the day: sound fiscal management and a strong moral
'The tea-party is who helped win the House back…'
Ok. Let's look at this statement. The GOP did take
'take America back' by winning the House in 2010. Before
our current President took office, the GOP has been seen quoting as their only
priority was to make him a… 'one term President.' Not jobs. 400 Filibusters in the Senate. More than any
other congress in history. 47 failed attempts to repeal the
Affordable care act at the cost of $50 million dollars. 82 judicial
blocks. 86 for every other president…combined. The GOP refused
to talk with Dems x18 times before…. they forced a government
shutdown. That also cost tax payers $24 billion dollars. Least
productive congress, in 60 years. Utah: 1.3 Utahns cut
off public assistance. The state spending $2 million dollars to
fight gay marriage. Why would I vote someone into government, that
wants 'limited government'? That is sabotage politics. And if you are upset about the debt? Reagan tripled the
debt. George W. Bush doubled the debt. You cannot say
either about Obama. The message, seems pretty clear.
The Republican party has offered no actual solutions in 30+ years.
"it was Bush's true colors showing through as a NOT true
conservative"Just Bush? How about Mitch McConnell? How about
Paul Ryan? How about John Boehner?These guys all voted FOR Medicare
part D, No Child Left Behind, the Auto Bailouts and TARP.Proving, in
the end, the GOP is not really any different than the Dems.Just
canvas1San Tan Valley, AZThat's proving Kathleen
Parker's article to a tea (party).You realize the last election
was Obama's to loose, don't you?You do realize that Romney was a
North East moderate Republican (similar to Reagan) who could have easily won the
Center Right, Moderates, and Independants - but morphed into an ugly
"ultra-conservative" during the primary, only to then be publically
spanked and smacked down in the General Elections, don't you?You do realize that the House and Senate, and 3 State Governorships were lost
due to GOP Tea-Party extremeism?Nah, you don't.And THAT
is what Ms. Parker is trying to tell you.Let the GOP-eat-GOP
gladiator games begin...
I would love to vote republican this time around, but I fear that Republicans
will make that impossible for me. Someone like Chris Cristie whom I would
actually vote for will probably be run out by the tea party.
Least we all remind ourselves that Saint Reagan -- [whom the Tea-Party
worships and sees as sinless]banned assault and hand guns, signed abortion legislation, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants, increased Government size and Federal Spending, raised the debt ceiling
17 times, and forced all hospitals to admit people regardless of insurance
or ability to pay.President Obama has done none of that, so
should be considered Ronald Reagan-LITE.Today's GOP would have
had Reagan publically executed.
Once again, the liberals are pushing the story that only "moderate"
Republicans have a chance of winning in the general election. They want to
convince us that anyone who is truly conservative doesn't have a chance so
we might as well vote for someone in the primary who has at least one foot
across the aisle already.Why is this logic only applicable to
conservatives? Hard core leftists in the Democratic party run and win all the
time. Obama, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. are all left wing extremists.
There is no effort on the other side to promote "moderate" Democrats.I'm sure plenty of liberal commentors will insist that everyone
associated with the Tea Party are "crazy birther types", but they give
all the left-wingers a complete pass.Don't fall for the
propaganda. Elect true conservatives who will actually fight for smaller
government and fiscal responsibility. Otherwise the party will shift even
'Once again, the liberals are pushing the story that only
"moderate" Republicans have a chance of winning in the general
election.' False. With it's track
record… I doubt any Republican has a chance of winning general
"...The problem is that until someone else demonstrates even a glimmer of
conscience on issues like abortion and actually does something about runaway
spending...".A glimmer of conscience?The end
all...be all...Patron Saint of the republican Party...Ronald Wilson Reagan
signed an abortion bill which led to the murder of over 2,000,000 babies. "...and actually does something about runaway spending...". RWR raised the debt ceiling 17 times... "...fiscally-conservative and socially-conscious candidates will continue
to win Republican primaries...".There must be some other reason
why fiscally-conservative and socially-conscious candidates will continue to win
Senator Lee started the landslide.
"Hard core leftists in the Democratic party run and win all the time. Obama,
Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. are all left wing extremists. There is no
effort on the other side to promote "moderate" Democrats."You detail out the issue perfectly. Obama and Clinton are by no stretch
"left wing extremists". Its like being in a boat leaving an island and
thinking the land is moving farther away.
JoeBlow:Obama and Clinton are as far away from the center line as
Ted Cruze and Mike Lee. Liberals refuse to acknowledge that because they agree
with their politics. To them, Obama is just a regular guy who has perfectly
normal views.To conservatives, his policies are very radical.I happen to agree with many true conservatives in Congress, but at least
I will recognize that they are not "moderate".If you want to
try and prove me wrong, please name some people in Congress that you think are
farther left than the ones I named. (Oops I should have mentioned Al Franken in
my original post but even he is not THAT far left of Obama).
JoeBlow -You are absolutely correct. Obama, Bush, Clinton and Reagan
all are relatively moderate by comparison to members of the Teaparty movement.
The Teaparty would have refused the TARP program and the accommodative Fed
programs. The result would have been a 2nd Great Depression.This
article is spot on. In fact what is happening is deja vu all over again.
Teaparty candidates are the main reason the Senate has a Democrat majority,
despite the fact that the apportionment according to two senators per state
gives a great overweight to the less populous smaller and more conservative
JoeCapitalist2 wrote: "If you want to try and prove me wrong, please name
some people in Congress that you think are farther left than the ones I named.
(Oops I should have mentioned Al Franken in my original post but even he is not
THAT far left of Obama)."Raul GrijalvaKeith EllisonMaxine WatersLinda SanchezAlan GraysonBernie Sanders (not a
Dem but caucuses with them).That was too easy.
I will admit limited government is winner with getting my vote. Less government
means taking care of myself and family, less government getting into my own
busieness and real winner is less taxes needed to run it. All those
that think government can take care of everything please read the history of
Europe in the late 80s and early 90s.
BungalowOne other fact about Reagan, that Congress actually spent less
money than he requested in 5 out of the 8 years he submitted a budget. Reagan
was not a fiscal conservative, he actually was a propenent of deficit spending.
bungalowSALT LAKE CITY, UTFTsalt lake city, UT========= Shhh, Don't rattle them up, That's
like telling children that there really is not a Santa Claus, Easter Bunny or
Tooth Fairy.FYI -- As a much younger moderate, center right
Republican, Ronald Reagan was the last Republican I voted for as a
Republican.[I wrote in and voted for Jon M. Huntsman Jr. last
election, he was by far the most like Reaganesque....and look what the
GOP did to him!]
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