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Published: Saturday, Jan. 4 2014 10:25 p.m. MST

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Gallup, NM

If you believe the Bible. I would bet money that even LDS people would agree that the Bible is open to interpretation.

Mcallen, TX

I don't understand why LGBT people move in and try to change things.

There are many other states excepting gay marriage.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT


Your comment...

The Constitution of the United States of America, was written and based on Christian principles and teachings, for a MORAL society. We have a republic based on this document that was intended to last for all generations to come after it. The more immoral the society becomes, the further it is pulled away from this divinely inspired document.

My response/question...

The COTUS permitted slavery.

So...a divinely inspired document... written and based based on Christian principles and teachings for a MORAL society... intended to last for all generations to come after it...permitted slavery?

Palmyra, NY

Lets not forget the 100% minus 4 persons turnout at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Or how about the 100% minus 8 souls turnout for the great flood!
The attendance at any function or event does not indicate it's importance or value.

Alpine, UT

Political posturing. Didn't this guy run for office in Utah several times?

Salt Lake City, UT

worf: "I don't understand why LGBT people move in and try to change things. There are many other states [ac]cepting gay marriage."

The LGBT people did not "move in." They were here all along. I know several couples who married following the Shelby decision. In most cases, at least one half of the couple was born and raised in Utah. All were long term residents. Regardless, people have established homes and careers here. They have a right to shape their communities to improve their situation. Why should they move to satisfy your whims?

As to the general (and stale) argument of "why don't you move someplace where you are welcome?" I'm sure you will find plenty of folks to your liking in Uganda and Russia.

Inis Magrath
Fort Kent Mills, ME

@worf: you ask, "I don't understand why LGBT people move in and try to change things."

Gay people don't "move in," they are born in your state, my state, and everywhere. Why should they have to move out in order to enjoy their constitutionally protected rights?

Phoenix, AZ

FYI-this crazy sheriff is still Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona. The title states he's the former sheriff. I have no idea why they even asked for his opinion. Sheriffs don't enforce marriage. He's not from Utah. I guess they just wanted a reliable quote from someone who would reliably toe the GOP line. The church did not invent marriage. They have zero ownership on it. There is no such thing as a god-given right. If you go to court to protect your rights, you take the Constitution, not a bible. Rights are in fact conferred by man. Also, the reference to God given rights is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

Mcallen, TX

Many have moved in to enjoy a better economy.

It's that way in Texas and Colorado also. Many come from near bankrupt states wanting to change the established norm. Texas doesn't want gay marriage and Colorado doesn't want gun control, but the people moving in wants to change that. Pathetic!

utah, UT

I am not a constitutional expert but I do have a copy of the constitution and I have read it completely. This along with studies in college make me agree with the former sheriff that the constitution gives no rights to 'unnatural marriage" as defined very succinctly in the scriptures. It appears that some people have been duped by legal over reach.

Kate Hutch
Kenmore, WA

What, exactly, is happening in Massachusetts? You give no details. People who complain the loudest about our constitution being ignored seem to be the most ignorant of its contents.

And Jesus said nothing about homosexuality in your Bible. Not. One. Thing.

Salt Lake City, UT

worf: "Texas doesn't want gay marriage and Colorado doesn't want gun control, but the people moving in wants to change that. Pathetic!"

This comment and your previous one imply that there is some static, uniform set of values for a state. I hear that a lot here; politicians love to speak of "Utah values" as if there is some official checklist of the state's values that never changes. Well, the values of a society are dynamic. They change over time as populations migrate and attitudes change. We happen to be in a period of flux when it comes to several issues. Maybe the Colorado of 1995 didn't want gun control, maybe even the Colorado of 2010 or 2012. But there is a sizable portion of Colorado in 2013 that is willing to consider it. Some of the change, as you point out, is due to immigration. Some is internal as people react to incidents like Columbine, Aurora, and Sandy Hook and the population becomes more urban (and less culturally attached to hunting). The point is, state values change. Get used to it. The idea that nonconformists should leave a state rather than change it doesn't fly.


It takes a man and a woman to make a child. A child therefore, has a RIGHT to require the state to provide that child the opportunity to be raised with a man and a woman. This would be EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW.

Gay and Lesbian marriage trample the rights of a child since once legal, adoption is then legal for gay and lesbian couples. Regardless of how loving and kind they are, which many are, where is the equal protection for the child? It is GONE! Studies overwhelmingly show children THRIVE best where a father and mother are present.

The state, or federal government MUST protect the rights of the innocent and the rights of those who cannot eloquently speak for themselves, otherwise, we truly are a degenerate nation caring only for oneself.

Gay and lesbian couples should form civil unions, but should not be classified as marriage, or our nation protects the right of the adult at the expense of THE CHILD. And that would be equal protection....NOT.

Salt Lake City, UT

Please look past the entire gay thing and look what is REALLY happening here. A judge just "created" his own law. 66% of the vote wanted marriage between a man and a woman. There was a ruling earlier this year from the supreme court that stated that states have the right to decide issues. This so called judge completely ignored that ruling and based on his own opinion decided what is best for the state. That is the real problem. If there is anyway to dismiss this person it should be done right away! Or look at it this way, if 66% of the people had voted for gay marriage and a judge turned that over how would you advocates of gay marriage feel then???

2 tell the truth
Clearwater, FL


Re: "'If you read those books, (Bible, Tora, Koran, BoM) they all have something in common: they support marriage between a man and a woman.'"

I admit to only having read the Bible, but it largely "supports" marriage between a man and as many women as he could afford (women at the time being legally chattel - objects that could be bought, sold and traded at whim), as in, "A pig and two goats for your daughter, Sir? She would make a lovely addition to our family, and I'll make sure my other wives don't mind."

The Bible also "supports" a man having to marry his brother's widow.

Solomon had some 700 wives and 300 concubines.

"Adam" (the First Man) had TWO "helpmeets" (N.B. not "wives").

Yes, let's bring back Biblical 'morality' and impose Bronze Age 'thinking' on 21st Century America.


2 tell the truth
Clearwater, FL

@ Clinton,

Re: "the proper course of action is to vote on amending our Constitution again"

It is NEVER "proper" to subject SOME citizens' (formerly?) "UNALIENABLE" rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness to a popular vote.

Hyrum, UT

It's interesting (in a sad sort of way) that the majority of early comments to this article are from LGBT supporters... throwing out exagerated numbers to make gay marriage seem much more supported than it really is. 25% of comments on the first page are from out of state... trying to get involved in a Utah matter where they don't live.
Names like Marxist and Pagan speak for what they really are. They jump on this topic like hungry wolves on a wounded animal. Very sad indeed. Alwlays being the self-appointed spokespeople for all ultra-liberal issues.

And yet two-thirds of the population of Utah supported our state position in support of traditional marriage. Utah is one of the most conservative states in the union. And yet one liberal activist judge changes all of that... and rams that change down our throats... something solidly against the will of the majority of the people. Once again, the tail is wagging the dog.

Thankfully, there is now some hope and common sense. The Supreme Court has since put this issue on hold until it can further be decided about the legality of the activist judge's action.

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

Here are two imaginary conversations:

Hypothetical conversation #1:
"Me: Mr. Tea Party Sheriff, isn't it terrible to deport two illegal immigrant parents and to leave their US born children without parents?
Mr. Tea Party Sheriff: Well, the law is the law. They need to obey the laws and they are here illegally!"

Hypothetical conversation #2:
"Me: Mr. Gay Right Activist, isn't is terrible for a wedding photographers in New Mexico to be forced out of business because of their freedom of conscience?
"Mr. Gay Right Activist: Well the law is the law, if they want to be in the public square they have to follow the law."

These are hypothetical conversations, but, as anyone can see, they aren't too far-fethched. So I can't really see much of a difference between the attitudes that have formed these two views. Both are as equally right wing as the other.

Tooele, UT

@ Kate Hutch:

You sound like you are disowning the Bible... calling it "your Bible", and not "our Bible". And by the way, Christ's apostles and prophets did say something about gay unions... very explicity... in both the New and Old Testaments.

Romans 1:24-27
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13

From these scriptures, there can be no doubt about how God feels toward homosexuality.

The scriptures later prophecied how in later times (our times) people would call good bad and bad good. That's exactly what I see happening in many of these comments in trying to discount the Word of God and in also trying to justify things they deem as politically correct, while casting aside any morality altogether.

If such a stance causes me to be called old-fashioned and out of touch, then so be it.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Objectified

YOUR bible. Not everybody believes in that book. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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