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Published: Friday, Jan. 3 2014 5:55 p.m. MST

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Bob K
portland, OR

But Olsen said one of the reasons BYU may not rank No. 1 is because the academic program is so rigorous.

Undoubtedly true, but Stanford is rated #3, although it is a thousand miles more liberal, and highly ranked around the world. BYU is a great school, but far from that league.

Stanford also has a much more diverse population, and its lack of ties to a church suggests more freedom to form one's own way of thinking.

Maybe the very high cost of Stanford excludes unhappy folks?

ER in AF
Harare, Zimbabwe, 00

Wow, Texas A&M, UNC, U of W, the 2 Florida schools and Stanford. Those are some pretty good schools to be grouped with. Well you know, it is called Happy Valley.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

As someone who attended or taught at three of the top 20 (including BYU), I'll say that BYU is right where it should be as one of the happiest places. I wonder if it would rank even higher if they factored in percentage of students who enroll out of those accepted (the "happy to be there category"). I think BYU is ranked in the top three in that category.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

This ranking makes sense for the categories used, after all BYU is basically the church school (sorry BYU-Idaho), everyone who is going there pretty much wants one particular experience that can't really be duplicated at any other school and everyone who doesn't want that sort of experience didn't apply there in the first place.

Me an Der
Lees Summit, MO

Someone said "Stanford is rated #3, although it is a thousand miles more liberal," which is countered by "its lack of ties to a church suggests more freedom to form one's own way of thinking" and yet brings out the huge commonality of those who are political brothers and sisters. Also ignored is the notion that young people heading off to school is somehow helping them gain "more freedom to form one's own way of thinking" while others have long since found their way and know where they are going which certainly points out the extreme immaturity of so many college age folks these days which is born out by charging up such expenses in loans, etc. And, the notion that "Stanford also has a much more diverse population," ignores the diversity of BYU's worldwide student body along with the worldwide experience of US students there. Without counting the number of freshman who leave to serve missions around the world, but who happily return, one cannot obtain an appropriate measure of "happiness." Lastly, "the very high cost of Stanford excludes unhappy folks" or does wealth keep them returning to keep their free lifestyle rolling on.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The DesNews relying on a liberal website. Too funny!

Justmythoughts
Provo, UT

When I attended BYU, I was very happy. .... But I did get tired of all the homesick Californians constantly complaining about the weather and how boring Utah was. They didn't seem too happy to me....and they were everywhere. You couldn't swing a dead cat and not hit some homesick Californian.

SSmith
Salt Lake City, UT

I was very happy at BYU and after earning three degrees, even happier to graduate and leave Utah County. I will forever have fond memories of BYU and friendships there.

morpunkt
Glendora, CA

@Justmythoughts
You apparently are quite content, coming from Utah. It is Californians like me, who pay tithing to your university, along with my children, who are looking to have more of an advantage in dating eligible LDS suitors. Unfortunately, we have no BYU California, but you have a BYU Utah and Idaho. We pay for our children to live up in your state, as well. This gives you more revenue for the state, thereby creating more jobs in your state. Californians deserve to complain, once in awhile.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

I've attend both State schools and Church schools and taught at a State school and for me, the Church schools were preferred. I agree with alt134 this one time.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

Attending BYU and Graduating from there was like going to Hawaii for me... I didn't realize how great it was until I had moved on...

Bob K
portland, OR

Me an Der
Lees Summit, MO

In your slam on my comment, you wrote the most telling thing about mormons and BYU:

Also ignored is the notion that young people heading off to school is somehow helping them gain "more freedom to form one's own way of thinking" while others have long since found their way and know where they are going which certainly points out the extreme immaturity of so many college age folks these days"

-- Only mormons would ever say that people entering college ought to have found their way and know where they are going. The rest of us think that is the purpose of college.

"ignores the diversity of BYU's worldwide student body along with the worldwide experience of US students there."

-- Only mormons would think that a student body of mostly all mormons in a mormon college was diversity.

"Lastly, "the very high cost of Stanford excludes unhappy folks" or does wealth keep them returning to keep their free lifestyle rolling on."

-- what a load of judgement and lack of humor!

The notion that a university so tied to religion compares to Stanford is sad.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

I'm not at all surprised at this. BYU is a really special environment. Having attended another university before, I can tell you that the caliber of people and the environment are much better at BYU. I consider having graduated from BYU to be one of the greatest blessings of my life. The standards and lifestyle there are the things that lead to true happiness and success in life.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

re: Esquire

The source doesn't matter as long as it advances the agenda that all is well in Zion?

re: Justmythoughts

Isn't a Lions share of the student body someone from California who had one or both parents attend the y?

re: Cats

"BYU is a really **special** environment."

Curious; Do you mean special in the context of the Utah true beliver?

daver
Provo, 00

Bob K, "freedom to form one's thinking" at schools like Stanford is dogma, rather than reality. You are free from censure and harassment by faculty and students alike, as long as you conform.

BYU offers freedom from Stanford's (and 95% of all US Universities')"orthodoxy." I even noticed my American History prof at BYU providing left-wing commentary in nearly every lecture and he had been teaching there a long time! :-)

GoBig
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Where's Utah on the happiness scale? They are certainly more liberal than BYU which according to some of those who have commented on this article, allows students to think and do whatever they want so their happiness grade must obviously be off the charts! Utah is probably so high that the Daily Beast threw Utah out because they were a statistical outlier.

CardinalCougar
Honolulu, HI

Having graduated from both Stanford and BYU, the academic rigors are really an accurate factor in why BYU would be below Stanford in the purely subjective "happiness" category. From my experience the academic rigor is about the same. A little over 50% of Stanford's student body are in graduate school, many of whom are BYU graduates. Nor do I think the conservativism or liberalism of the school really has much to do with it. While purely subjective, bigger factors in "happiness" at a particular campus have more to do with the school's ability to meet your particular academic needs and goals: openness and interaction between faculty/staff and students, alumni support, facilities, location, academic focus and a feeling on contribution to the betterment of society - strengths at both schools. While Stanford certainly has a diverse student body in terms of nationalities, "diversity" can come in many different shapes, sizes, thoughts and personalities, contrary to the popular over-generalization of homogeneity in any one ethnicity, nationality or other group. My family and I greatly enjoyed the social interactions, campus environment, academic opportunities, community involvement and overall experiences at both schools. "Happiness" is what and where you make it.

CardinalCougar
Honolulu, HI

Editing error - I meant to say "academic rigors are NOT an accurate factor...in..."happiness" category. My apologies.

SkookumDon
Tacoma, WA

Really? Judging a college's happiness by measuring freshmen retention rate, the quality of the health center, and misc. student ratings? I graduated from both USU and BYU and I was happier in Cache Valley.

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