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Published: Friday, Jan. 3 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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high school fan
Huntington, UT

And exactly why are we afraid of CO2 since all trees and plants convert it to oxygen. The planet's average temperature has risen less than a degree in almost twenty years, what does that tell us. Absolutely nothing except that we haven't got any warmer for a while.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Yes, that darned ice! That ice that isn't supposed to be there! That ice that is so thick and massive it trapped the ship and that ice that is so thick and massive it kept any rescue ice breaker ships from reaching it! Now what do global warming geeks do? They can say the ice isn't relevant, it has no meaning. Its fake ice and the trapped ship isn't real! We can say the ice doesn't really matter, global warming is melting the ice anyway in spite of more ice, the ice is actually melting. Which is exactly what some of you posters on here have eluded. Dang that ice! Dang reality anyway!

Sven
Morgan, UT

@Marcia Whitaker

Excellent observations! No matter where this story is being reported on the internet, those commenting are also finding the “delicious irony of it all.”

As you point out, the media and other Leftists always seem to conveniently forget to mention that those on this ship were global warming scientists out to prove that arctic ice was declining. Oops!

Once again the reality deniers are out using their famous, “weather is not climate” mantra. I guess they didn’t hear that leaked documents from the IPCC indicated that their models overestimated warming, and that there indeed has been NO WARMING for the past 16 years! Oops! This sounds like climate to me. Seems all those cataclysmic hurricanes the reality deniers were warning about also didn’t pan out. Oops!

In order to push the garbage and myth of AGW, the Left has had to outright lie and misrepresent their own data. Professor Michael Mann from the U of P and the “scientists” at the University of East Anglia were cooking their data to get their desired results attempting to show AGW. Dictator Obama needs the myth of AGW so he can implement the economy crushing Cap and Trade. Easy Peasy!

Ralph
Salt Lake City, UT

Well, I sure hope for all our sakes, that all the Fox News believers and Deseret News readers are right, and all the climate scientists are wrong.

Maybe folks don't really need a high-falutin-sciency degree to know how climate science works.

Allisdair
Thornbury, Vic

The ships are stuck in sea ice and it is only a problem because of wind conditions. In a few days the winds will change and the sea ice will break up again. Mean while Antarctica is still melting overall. Australia's weather bureau just announced it has has the hottest year on record and 2014 is already heading the same way with droughts, hurricanes and wild fires.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Allisdair said:

"The ships are stuck in sea ice and it is only a problem because of wind conditions. In a few days the winds will change and the sea ice will break up again."

Oh, so now it's the winds fault? Umm, sure thing, whatever you say.

The entire premise of AGW, since the Kyoto Protocol, has been fraudulent.

Consider: 1) The arctic ice sheet has grown by nearly 60% in 2013, 2) Leaked documents from Fifth Assessment Report of the UN IPCC have overestimated warming on their climate models, and have shown NO WARMING for the past 16 years, 3) The monster storms and hurricanes that we were warned about never came to fruition, 4) The arctic ice that the AGW crowd said would be gone by 2013 has grown (See No. 1), 5) Top AGW "scientists" were shown to have manipulated their data supposedly confirming AGW was taking place, 6) Scientists are now concerned the lack of sun spot activity means we're going to a cooling phase, and 7) The Polar Vortex hitting our nation.

The “science” behind AGW has been found wanting.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

17 years no warming, now the coldest temps recorded in decades back East, and the trip to see the melting of all the ice ends up stuck in the ice, with their would be rescuers.

Seems like the natural climate cycle as swung into cooling mode, you know the cycle they told you about in school 30 years ago.

But there is more money to be made in telling people that it is man's fault, so that is what our politicians tell our scientists to tell our schools to teach.

Solar companies are winning big, at the moment. Next it will be fuels that warm the whole earth to stay off the 'man-made ice-age'.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@BadgerBadger
"Seems like the natural climate cycle as swung into cooling mode"

Then why was 2013 the 4th warmest year on record? (UAH satellite dataset, 1998, 2010, 2005 are the top 3). Why were the 2000s the warmest decade in the modern record? Here's the thing, despite the natural cycles being heavily skewed towards cooling (La Nina 4 of the past 5 years, the weakest solar cycle in a century) the most you've gotten out of it is "no warming or cooling". That's a sign that there's some positive forcing offsetting the cooling we'd expect from natural influences alone.

@Sven
"4) The arctic ice that the AGW crowd said would be gone by 2013 has grown "

The IPCC projected the mid to late 21st century as when the Arctic sea ice would be effectively gone.

"7) The Polar Vortex hitting our nation."

All that sentence says is that there was a deep trough in the jet stream...

"Scientists are now concerned the lack of sun spot activity means we're going to a cooling phase"

And yet we're not cooling, perhaps there's a positive forcing somewhere keeping things warm...

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