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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 31 2013 5:50 p.m. MST

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Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

What a joke of a lawsuit. Hey counselor go back and read the section on ethics.

orem, UT

It was good of the couple to call this lawyer out. Even thought I completely disagree with gay marriage, I do not think all those who participate are bad people out to ruin what I believe to be right.

Logan, UT

Unethical lawyers like these are running rampant in our state and country and ruining our society. Hats off to the couple to ask to have their names removed from the suit.

West Point , UT

Now this is a lesbian couple who represent what I believe most of them represent. They aren't looking to tear religion or society apart they just want equal protection under the law. I commend them, and hopefully this opens some people's eyes about the true nature of the LGBT community and what their desires are...equality. They aren't out to attack traditional families folks, they just want equal treatment.

Plano, TX

Not a good thing for a member of the bar to have done. Not good at all.

Orem, UT

The real story here is it begins, exactly as predicted. Lawsuits to bully the LDS Church into performing gay marriages. I, for one, am not very shocked.

Salt Lake City, Utah

@ BYR: What makes you think this attorney is part of the LGBT community?

Farmington, UT

I'd say it's time to hold a de-barring hearing. It's amazing what some attorney's will do for money. They almost make gambling and prostitution look acceptable.

Make this guy get a job serving fast food.

slc, UT


Do you have some evidance this lawyer is lgbt, it sound more like someone out to slander these women and/or make a name for themselves.

Sandy, UT

Good they are calling out this lawyer on this. On the other hand, how long are we (Utah and LDS) going to continue to fight a fight that is not winnable or justified. Let's not make the same mistake made with blacks and priesthood and 30 years after the fact admit error and mistakes. Let's practice what we preach and allow all to have the constitutionally guaranteed right to marry. It's very simple yet for some reason we can't see the light on this one.

Los Angeles, CA

Wow great news lets hope the fight for equal rights for all Americans will be won and rewarded,congratulations to all the gay and straight couples that got married.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Another meritless lawsuit filed by an unscrupulous lawyer. Unfortunately for the unwittingly named plaintiffs the Bar will do little or nothing with their complaint. For all their talk of ethics the Bar has a woefully lackluster track record of policing their own ranks. ie - Swallow.

On its face the claim of denial of religious freedom for the individuals against a religious institution would be akin to a Native American demanding the Catholic Church erect sweat lodges and provide peyote to their membership at all of their cathederals. It is such a ridiculous notion that I can only hope the courts boot this thing in summary judgment after about 5 minutes of argument, or less. Mr. Smay will get his five minutes of fame, the reputation of the legal industry (which I generally hold in high regard) will take another hit and somewhere out there will be a few individuals who might actually agree with his preposterous argument. Let's hope it's not contagious.

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

This is one of those lawsuits that will be used as evidence that the Supreme Court must issue a stay until the legal issues are completely sorted out. Oops.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

He should be dis-barred! Totally corrupting our legal system!

Bluffdale, UT

The whole dislike and discord towards the LGBT community reminds me of the Jonathon Swift quote, We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another."

Springville, UT

My guess is the majority of gays feel the same way. I have debated two different activists, one gay and one straight. Both hate religion and one had a particular zeal for the Mormon church. Both wanted to destroy organized religion.

This doesn't end with equality in marriage. The fight for freedom of thought and religion have just begun!

Pragmatic One
Mesa, AZ

Only question I have is whether those who review this case will have the backbone to dis-bar Mr. Smay. No-one, regardless of who they are or what their values or beliefs should have to worry about unethical counsel using them for personal gain. We already have enough of those types in Washington ruining our daily lives.

I also question whether or not there are adequate safeguards in place to prevent such things from happening, and, if there shouldn't be some kind of review process for these types of situations that involve responsible citizens who are not Attorneys. Something along the lines of a Grand Jury.

A Quaker
Brooklyn, NY

I don't understand why people keep raising the fear that their churches and temples would be compelled to sanctify same-sex marriages. That is nonsense.

For starters, the very beginning of the First Amendment reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" This so-called "Establishment Clause" sets out the crystal-clear separation of Church and State.

No church has to provide any rites for anyone it doesn't want to. The proof of this is all around you. Catholics can't even marry in a Catholic Church if they're divorced. Mormons can't even marry in a Mormon Temple without a Temple Recommend, if I understand correctly. In my own Quaker Meeting, which is Equality-minded, open and welcoming, even birthright Quakers can't marry without the okay of their Clearness Committee. No minister, priest, imam or rabbi can be compelled to officiate any marriage, not in any religion, not in this country.

Bluffdale, UT

Some things change (obviously) while other things don't. Here is a 14th century rhyme.

St. Yves is from Brittany
A lawyer but not a thief
Such a thing is beyond belief!

Salt Lake City, UT

This just seems a little too weird. I don't know the couple involved, and I don't know the lawyer.

I think there is a decent chance that the attorney may be the victim of a scam here too. An attorney can not collect there share of a judgement unless they are legally retained and are the counsel for record for the plaintiff. It makes no sense that an attorney would make such a basic error that is sure to be noticed. I think it is much more likely that someone else filed the suit using the attorney's name (which is not hard to do) as a way to get some media attention to their cause. I bet the attorney will be a little surprised when he gets home from the holidays and finds out his name is mixed up in this mess.

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