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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 1 2014 4:00 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

I know two middle school guidance counselors who are horrified at what they are seeing among students in their schools. They both estimate that nearly 100% of boys in eighth grade have at least been exposed to online porn with about 80% of girls having been. Yet in Utah, they are forbidden by law from discussing this -- and other important subjects -- with students.

Online porn is actually a form of child molestation.

The only difference is that the molester is not in bed with them, but is hiding in anonymity far away while actually being paid big bucks to molest children. Hook them young and they'll become "subscribers" later.

This is not just a national disaster -- it's universal worldwide.

But conservative protectors of our Constitution cry foul any time anyone suggests doing something to try to bring this under control. "First Amendment," they cry.

What will it take to wake people up? Allowing this new form of child molesting to continue unabated is simply idiotic.

Why do our lawmakers lack the courage to take action? Could it be that somehow they are in the pockets of those who produce that filth?

BKB
Chantilly/USA, 00

It's important to let adolescents know how damaging pornography can be to them. Over 60% of college age adults believe there is nothing wrong with viewing porn. Fight the New Drug is performing a great service by spreading the word about the severe negative consequences of pornography.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

one old man: Just one question. are you opposed tp prayer in school? since you are crying fowl by conservatives over first amendment issues ( which by the way afflicts liberals too with a host of other issues, including prayer in school-Why we can't have prayer in school because it mixes government with religion), how can you complain about the problem when the biggest part of the solution has been eliminated by our liberal friends.

Here
Sandy, UT

Thank you DN and Fight the New Drug for covering and treating this problem.

Personally, I think the Founding Fathers are shocked to know that the First Amendment they crafted is being used to protect pornography. The First Amendment was meant to primarily protect political speech. Look at the history books. They were being killed, jailed, and otherwise punished for speaking up against the King of England. They weren't fighting for the right to view pornography. Just one more case of judges making haywire decisions.

Pornography is a scourge with no redeeming value whatsoever. And to try to hook kids when they are vulnerable is inexcusable. These kids are growing up in a world that is hard enough to live in. Give them a break and help them avoid or overcome this addiction.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

I did find one old mans comment unusual about it being conservatives who are causing the problem. It is usually the very liberal ACLU and other first amendment advocates who cry foul the loudest on the issue of any kind of censorship.

Here is a solution. If it is not legal to cry "Fire" in a theater, then why not have the law makers put pornography into that same category and make it illegal to be posted on the internet. I can't imagine a law maker (Republican or Democrat) standing for keeping this porn legal for access to anyone who has a computer. Here, above, was correct. The first Amendment was primarily to keep political speech free. Unfortunately because of very liberal "interpretations" of the Constitution, smut, pornagraphy, and all kinds of horrors have been interpreted to be protected speech. That could change with enough public and political will. It would be fun to watch the defenders of pornography argue for it to remain free and able to get into the hands of 11 or 12 year old children. I bet they wouldn't hold office for long.

jeanie
orem, UT

Part if the problem with regulating porn is where to draw the line. If anyone mentions the effect of VictoriaSecrets massive posters displayed in our malls they are accused of being prudes, yet it doesn't take a high IQ to understand what message is really being marketed by such posters. Then there are others who would put clothes on the statue of David simply because it is an unclothed body. I can't imagine Michelangelo had the same intent as VS.

Porn is a real problem, but it is not just politicians who protect the industry's preditory practices and "right" to produce degrading filth. I believe it is also a permissive society in general that refuses to see the destructive consequences of objectifying human beings, who actively deride those who speak of modesty like it is a character flaw. When the majority of society comes to believe the destructive nature of lustfully objectifying the human body maybe politicians will get in line and inact appropriate laws, just as they finally have with smoking.

I am grateful for those people who produce programs to help our youth, and who seek to educate people about the truth of porn.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

jeanie

True point. It always becomes a question of where to draw the line. I think that it might be possible to regulate the pornography on the web using the same kind of standard that has been used by television network censors. Even now, with liberals controlling most of entertainment media, the broadcast networks have their standards and practices who oversee the broadcast content. I suspect that a pornagraphic image could NOT be placed on a billboard close to the the freeway for all to see, and it would be considered illegal to do so. Why not just handle the web as such a public site using the same standards and practices that much of media does on their broadcasts. I think that only the pornographers and users of pornography would object. I'm not sure even the ACLU would want to front that fight.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

The internet is what it is...free information and that should never change. There is good and bad available at a few strokes of the keypad and it is up to the individual to stop viewing porn. Porn is addictive but not in the same way as hard drugs which create a chemical dependence and are much harder to stop because of the withdrawal. Just STOP doing it. Add filtering if you must but the key is to just stop it. The longer you stop the more able you are to never return. This also holds for bad movies. Just don't go!!! My wife and I watched the Hobbit the other night and we had to sit through 20 minutes of previews of other coming movies 90% of which were garbage. We probably go to 2 movies a year because the selection is so vulgar and bad. Do something else...go work out or take a hike or jump out of airplanes!!

one old man
Ogden, UT

For those castigating me for my comment about conservatives blocking attempts to regulate on-line porn, may I suggest you do some research and find out which legislators oppose bills for laws to regulate it?

Hint: Most have a big letter R beside their names.

jeanie
orem, UT

happy2bhere,

You ideas have merit. I would love to see them inacted.

Patriot,

Talking about the freedom of the internet is a nice concept, but not practical just like the unregulated (lawless) west was a land of opportunity while it was also very dangerous. I disagree that we should protect the freedom of the internet when it comes to access to porn.

Also, I am closely acquainted with people who have been hooked on both drugs and porn. Hands down they say porn is the hardest to overcome and, like drug addiction there are real physical withdrawal systems involved in recovery.

This article is about protecting the young from the ravages of porn addiction who innocently become involved before they are mature enough to make their own decisions. If you had a child who, inspite of your most dilligent efforts, had become ensnared you might think twice about your free information opinion about the internet. It is a helpless thing to see that you cannot protect your child from such a destructive thing no matter what you do. As a poster above said, there is nothing redeeming about porn and I believe it deserves to be regulated.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Patriot

I agree with you on most issues, but I tend to side with jeanie this time. She makes good points about the psychological addictions of pornography. It is as much a problem as substance addiction. And telling people to just not do it is like telling an alcoholic to just not drink. Without help most will fail. However I totally agree with the mess of bad previews I and my wife had to sit through in order to watch the Hobbit. Junk Hollywood movies. I wish they weren't pushed on all of us just to watch a rare decent movie.

Old man

Please give us some names of Republican politicians who have faught to keep pornography access easy and legal. I'd sure like to know their names. Sounds more to me like the liberatarian view than trhe conservative view. Plus, you know the ACLU is always at the front of these 1st Amendment fights, and they are largely from the left.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

Patriot:

Study after study have shown that the neurological effects of porn addiction are the same as addiction to drugs and alcohol. They all change the brain in the same way. What makes porn worse is that the drug is in the addicts memory.

If I am an alcoholc, I can go to an in-treatment facility and there is no alcohol. My drug is gone. As a porn addict, pictures I saw 30 years ago still come to my memory as vividly as when I first saw them. And they usually come at the worst possible time.

Filters don't catch everything. Porn purveyors find ways around them.

It is not someone's right under the 1st Ammendment to creat a pop-up that shows explicit porn on my computer when my 9 year old searces for "yu-gi-oh". This is exactly how my son saw his first porn photo.

Help comes via 12-step programs and a person's "higher power"....

moniker lewinsky
Taylorsville, UT

Do you guys know how your word counter works? Because it is telling me I have 15 words left and at the same time telling me I have gone over!!!

moniker lewinsky
Taylorsville, UT

I'm a liberal and have been for a long time. I don't know if I understood pornography addiction until my home was raided by feds a year ago. It was then that I learned about a my husband's addiction that also began in adolescence. These days, with all the online access, it's pretty easy to hide. At least it was for him. It wasn't until we were married ten years that his addiction escalated into illegal area. I don't believe that would have ever happened had he known how to get help. I know he wanted help. But there was so much shame.
For many years, I thought this was a religious problem. Utah is the highest user of internet porn.
This is everybody's problem. And it won't be solved by ATTACKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT. It will only be solved through education and dialog.
My loss and my children's loss has been unfathomable. Therapy is expensive, but I'm grateful for the therapists who do believe in treatment as opposed to draconian punishment. Divorce is the only way to spare my children the stigma of the registry.

Lone Eagle
Aurora, CO

Porn triggers brain chemistry and is thus chemically addictive and the body craves those naturally occurring chemicals. It is addictive and is super hard to overcome. (Covenanteyes.com has a good and easy explanation of the how pornography is addictive.)

It can be overcome, but the recovering addict has to be on constant guard and have strong will to be free.

I grew up without the internet, but still got hooked on the magazines. My son got hooked by accidentally going to the wrong site and is now fighting to be free. Since I have been there, I can help him.

The estimates I have heard from the counselor is that at one time it was thought that 1 in 4 men in the church have had or are having a problem with porn. That estimate was revised to 1 in 3. I believe it is considerably higher -- along the lines of 4 of 5.

Porn is a pernicious evil and a huge lie (actually many lies). And filters will not catch deliberate attempts to view it. Just do an image search with a filter in place.

The Caravan Moves On
Enid, OK

Article quote: "Instead, today's Internet porn is high-speed, high-definition and increasingly filled with violent acts. One content analysis of the top pornography movies from 2005 found that 88 percent of scenes showed violence against the performers, including slapping, spanking, gagging, choking, kicking or hair-pulling, and 94 percent of the time the violence was directed at women."

I believe the human female body is a visual treat unlike anything else....something that is breathtaking in it's beauty and desireable in its own right.

But what is 'cool' or 'desireable' about seeing someone physically abused?

Does anyone really believe that women who are physically abused in these films really WANT to be abused?

How can anyone find satisfaction or 'happiness' seeing another human being being purposely hurt?

I try to remember a simple truth in my life, and in particular, when it comes to pornography:

Do good, feel good.
Do bad, feel bad.

Good luck to everyone caught up in this web.

sid 6.7
Holladay, UT

I disagree with patriot regarding Chemical Addiction Vs. Mental Addiction (porn). I was a alcoholic and had a nasty Oxycotton addiction. I'm 44 now and have been addicted to porn since I was about 6 or 7. In my married life I have been lucky and never acted out but I chalk that up to a very understanding Wife and a very strong marriage. Most men, especially here in Utah, are not as lucky as me. You would be shocked at the amount of infidelity that occurs in this state stemming from porn addiction.

Bottom line, I would take having to kick Oxy and Alcohol over my porn addiction any day of the week. Although I have been sober for many years I have yet to fully kick my porn addiction. I urge all parents to keep their kids away from it at any cost!

The COTUS gives us the right to view porn but IMHO there should be way more safeguards regarding the internet to protect our children. Doing away with porn dose not solve the problem but we need to do way more than we are doing as a Country to prevent it from landing in our children's hands.

Mr. Bean
Phoenix, AZ

@Lone Eagle"
"Porn triggers brain chemistry and is thus chemically addictive and the body craves those naturally occurring chemicals."

Sex is addicting... If it weren't, the human race would have disappeared eons ago.

There's nothing more beautiful than the female human body, as Caravan (above) tells us. Such viewing is not an addition, it's normal. If there's a problem with it, the problem is in identifying it as a problem. You can drive a person nuts if you tell him/her enough times that what's normal is not normal and is sinful and awful.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Don't worry about the kids. They're way too far into the guts, gore and violence of modern gaming to bother with porn.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

So --
We ALL know there is a problem.

How do we as a Society fix it.

On one side, we have us Big government Liberals, who say we need tighter controls and more regulations and over-sight on those who "sell" this trash to minors.

on the other,
we have the 'keep Government our of our lives', Government never does anything right, Government is evil, and let the Free Markets decide -- uber-conservatives.

Europe and the rest of the developed world has passed many laws to control, regulate, and over see, pornography and children.

But then again -- they ARE Socialists now aren't they...

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